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  • #31
    Originally posted by Taco John View Post
    The market has a lot more plummeting to do. We bailed out the banks and kicked the can down the road in 2008. What's happening now is just the eventual results of those actions. Something was going to trigger the collapse eventually. Here we are.

    There's no need to panic. There is a plan in place that has been worked on for some time. The operation behind Trump has not only known this was coming, but has been planning for it for a long time. We're about to see an upheaval of our economic system. The debt based Federal Reserve system is on the ropes.
    Ok, I'm not a big Trump supporter, but I support him over the alternatives. But man, even I have to kind of shake my head on this.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by GreatBronco16 View Post

      Ok, I'm not a big Trump supporter, but I support him over the alternatives. But man, even I have to kind of shake my head on this.
      The first thing to do is refuse to believe conspiracists, mythologists and cultists.

      In a crisis, reality is the issue, not fantasy.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Rohirrim View Post

        The first thing to do is refuse to believe conspiracists, mythologists and cultists.

        In a crisis, reality is the issue, not fantasy.
        Oh I'm not listening to anybody that can't back up their talk. I tend to mostly keep track of what is happening in my state, and how we are responding to this. But I gotta say, when Trump comes on TV, I try to watch it. Normally about 5 minutes into it, I wish he would just let someone that can actually talk do the talking for him.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by GreatBronco16 View Post

          Oh I'm not listening to anybody that can't back up their talk. I tend to mostly keep track of what is happening in my state, and how we are responding to this. But I gotta say, when Trump comes on TV, I try to watch it. Normally about 5 minutes into it, I wish he would just let someone that can actually talk do the talking for him.
          Trump is a life-long conman and scam artist. You can't scam a virus, or con a national disaster. For a situation like that, you don't send a TV reality show host.

          Like they say about war, all the incompetent generals are swept away in the first battles and replaced by those who know what they're doing.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Rohirrim View Post

            The first thing to do is refuse to believe conspiracists, mythologists and cultists.

            In a crisis, reality is the issue, not fantasy.
            That means switching this “news” network off...



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            • #36
              Originally posted by Rohirrim View Post
              How the GOP’s War on Government Paved the Way for Trump’s Deadly Incompetence

              https://www.motherjones.com/politics...-incompetence/
              Oh look - anticapitalists wanting to hijack the government and turn it into an instrument of socialist terror wailing Trump is "warring on government."

              I find it most amusing when these political opportunists show up at the trough with their fat snouts open to feed claim "incompetent response" when they can't actually state what a competent, appropriate response would look like which they apparently know but are keeping secret from us let alone be able to present a modicum of data to illustrate the effectiveness of this super-duper response which they won't share with us. Truth is, they're just bitching and want to attack everything he does at every turn without meeting any burden of proof for their claims whatsoever.

              The left wing contingent of the OM do what all lefties online do: They scour through their favorite leftist trash hit piece websites, gather the op eds, the skewed views, and then paste them in scattershot all over various web forums, chat rooms, and comment sections as gospel, often repeating headline titles as assertions of fact.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by L.A. BRONCOS FAN View Post

                That means switching this “news” network off...


                Just more memes containing flagrant lies from you.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by nyuk nyuk View Post

                  Oh look - anticapitalists wanting to hijack the government and turn it into an instrument of socialist terror wailing Trump is "warring on government."

                  I find it most amusing when these political opportunists show up at the trough with their fat snouts open to feed claim "incompetent response" when they can't actually state what a competent, appropriate response would look like which they apparently know but are keeping secret from us let alone be able to present a modicum of data to illustrate the effectiveness of this super-duper response which they won't share with us. Truth is, they're just bitching and want to attack everything he does at every turn without meeting any burden of proof for their claims whatsoever.

                  The left wing contingent of the OM do what all lefties online do: They scour through their favorite leftist trash hit piece websites, gather the op eds, the skewed views, and then paste them in scattershot all over various web forums, chat rooms, and comment sections as gospel, often repeating headline titles as assertions of fact.
                  Ignorant Nazi. Squealing about socialism while your cult leader passes out checks and subsidizes corporations.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Rohirrim View Post

                    The first thing to do is refuse to believe conspiracists, mythologists and cultists.

                    In a crisis, reality is the issue, not fantasy.
                    That includes people like you who presume guilt of criminality an impeachment based on a "whistleblower" with known ties to Democrat Party operatives whose allegations were loaded with hearsay and gossip. Obviously, as an adult, you know the difference between hearsay and gossip and legitimate evidence of criminality that can stand muster based on legal standards laid out in legislation and the constitution. Since you are well and full aware of those differences, you choose to promote a gossip-based conspiracy theory to attack the president by peddling lies all over the internet.

                    You are the last person that should bitch about conspiracy theorists, mythologists, and cultists.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Rohirrim View Post

                      Ignorant Nazi. Squealing about socialism while your cult leader passes out checks and subsidizes corporations.
                      Crying "Nazi" isn't a rebuttal to what I just posted about hit piece political journalism written by people whose sole mission is to claim wrongdoing and improper action without firstly stating a coherent case he's wrong and another case as to why they're right and what should be done.

                      Instead of handling these points like an adult, of course, you act like you've had a piece of candy taken away from you by a scolding parent and you begin another fit of screaming and cursing.

                      Terrible twos or just well aware you have no leg to stand on?

                      Act like a man for once.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by TonyR View Post
                          Yet again blowhard leftists who claim Trump "bungles" and otherwise the virus situation but can't lay out in detail what exactly he's doing wrong and also quite importantly what they think should have been done to save the day. You would think these pundits are just dying inside of guilt that they've kept this amazing knowledge to themselves and have thus far not to share it as they fixate on Trump's supposed wrongs.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by nyuKKK

                            Yet again blowhard leftists who claim Trump "bungles" and otherwise the virus situation but can't lay out in detail what exactly he's doing wrong and also quite importantly what they think should have been done to save the day. You would think these pundits are just dying inside of guilt that they've kept this amazing knowledge to themselves and have thus far not to share it as they fixate on Trump's supposed wrongs.
                            The facts have already been "laid out" any number of times.

                            It's no one else's fault you're either too slow or too invested in covering for Dear Leader to comprehend them.


                            Trump spent weeks downplaying the coronavirus. He’s now pretending that never happened.


                            The president’s claim that he’s always taken the coronavirus “very seriously,” refuted by the president.

                            The president spent the first six weeks of the outbreak insisting that the situation was under control. He even characterized Democratic criticism of the federal government’s response, which has been lowlighted by an inability to test sufficient numbers of people for the virus, as “their new hoax.”



                            ...CNN ran a segment Wednesday highlighting the disconnect between Trump’s public statements now and what he’s been saying the past six weeks.

                            As the media continues to cover the story, it’s important to hold the president accountable for his actions — and inactions. Trump lost valuable time ignoring expert calls to act. He also actively spread misinformation. Real people’s lives were harmed and we shouldn’t forget it. Here’s a look back at Trump’s evolution over the two months.

                            Trump gutted the government’s pandemic response capability and then downplayed the seriousness of an ensuing pandemic

                            As my colleague German Lopez detailed last week, two years ago Trump and then-National Security Adviser John Bolton disbanded a White House agency that was set up by the Obama administration to lead federal preparation and coordination for outbreaks like the one the world is now trying to contend with.

                            When he wasn’t insisting that the buck stops elsewhere, Trump was telling the public that coronavirus was really nothing to worry about. As the coronavirus spread in China and the first US case was reported by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) on January 21, Trump was asked during an interview with CNBC on January 22 if he had any worries about the situation escalating into a pandemic. He said he did not.

                            “No, not at all. We have it totally under control,” Trump said. “It’s one person coming in from China, and we have it under control. It’s going to be just fine.”

                            ...
                            During an interview on February 2, for instance, Trump alluded to the move his administration announced in January to restrict entry into the country from China and said, “We pretty much shut it down coming in from China.” But by that time cases were already spreading inside the country. Then, 10 days later, Trump made the scientifically dubious assertion that “you know in April, supposedly [the virus] dies with the hotter weather.”

                            “One day it’s like a miracle, it will disappear,” Trump said. (Unfortunately, research indicates it doesn’t quite work like that.)

                            Trump even expressed hope that the coronavirus would go away before winter ended. During a news conference on February 26, he noted there were only five coronavirus cases in the country and said “we could be at just one or two people over the next short period of time.”

                            But despite issues with testing preventing the full scope of infection in the US from being known, by the end of February the number of cases in the US had broken 60 and instances of community spread had been recorded. Trump, however, ignored those problems and cited his “hunch” to make a case that the coronavirus death rate is lower than official estimates coming from organizations like the World Health Organization (WHO).

                            Perhaps most memorably, Trump closed out February with a rally in which he dismissed criticism of the government’s testing failures coming from Democrats and elsewhere as “their new hoax.” After receiving criticism for it, Trump quickly tried to walk it back — but in the days that followed he misleadingly hyped a coronavirus vaccine even as experts were telling him it wouldn’t be available for a year or more.

                            On March 6, Trump proclaimed during a tour of the CDC in Atlanta that “anybody right now and yesterday, anybody that needs a test gets a test.” Trump’s claim was false then and false now: The US continues to lag far behind other countries in testing capability.

                            As recently as March 7, Trump was telling reporters he was “not concerned” about coronavirus’s spread because “we’ve done a great job.” Ironically, he made that remark during a summit with Brazilian leaders at Mar-a-Lago that culminated in at least four people who were there testing positive for the virus. Two days later, Trump posted a tweet in which he undersold the coronavirus threat by misleadingly comparing it to the common flu, which is less deadly and spreads less easily.

                            So instead of treating the coronavirus “very seriously,” Trump actually spent weeks downplaying it. The Recount put together this helpful video tracking Trump’s dismissive comments with the spread in the United States.

                            Continued:

                            https://www.vox.com/2020/3/18/211849...hen-versus-now

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                            • #44
                              When you are in a cult, you believe the cult leader. You don't listen to anything anybody has to say outside the cult. That's how cults work.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by TonyR View Post
                                And look at the candidate the Democrats have served up...Biden...who can't put three coherent sentences together. This is the best the US has to offer?

                                Our two party system is terminally dysfunctional. It serves power...meaning the 1%.

                                Trump is the anti hero. I agree this is not a solution. But the truth is, Trump is not the problem, he's merely a symptom of our deep malaise. Take a good look in the mirror. The US today is owned and run by banksters and industrialists. They make a show of democracy but it's a fig leaf. The US is a fascist predatory capitalist nation. That's what we have become. Take a good look.

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