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  • 2020 Independent Candidate Possibilities.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2019/09/30/mark...president.html

    Self-made billionaire, “Shark Tank” star and owner of the Dallas Mavericks Mark Cuban won’t be attaching “2020 presidential candidate” to his name, at least for now.

    “My family voted it down. ... If you can change their mind I’m all in,” a smiling Cuban said in an interview Monday with Neil Cavuto on Fox Business Network.

    If he were to enter his name into the 2020 race, Cuban would run as an independent, he hinted earlier in May. Cuban had said that the multitude of Democratic candidates were all politicians — the “least trusted of any profession.”

    Former Starbucks CEO Howard Schultz flirted with running as an independent, but ended his exploration of a presidential bid earlier in September. Sen. Bernie Sanders identifies as an independent because he considers himself a democratic socialist, although he caucuses with Democrats in Washington and is running for the Democratic nomination.

    So far, about 20 candidates are vying for the Democratic nomination, while four Republicans have launched likely ill-fated primary challenges to President Donald Trump.

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    John McAfee

    https://fortune.com/2018/06/04/john-...resident-2020/

    Yes, that John McAfee: Virus protection software pioneer, fugitive from justice and Libertarian side show geek.

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    • #3
      Michael Bloomberg: Was being talked about in some circles in the spring, but was quoted as saying neither he or Howard Shultz should run, because any Independent would "bleed" more votes away from the Dem nominee, thereby opening the door for a Trump reelection.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by BroncsRule View Post
        John McAfee

        https://fortune.com/2018/06/04/john-...resident-2020/

        Yes, that John McAfee: Virus protection software pioneer, fugitive from justice and Libertarian side show geek.
        I'm not really intending to talk about every kook out there. Just who has seriously considered, is considering, or would be a viable candidate.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by BroncoBeavis View Post

          I'm not really intending to talk about every kook out there. Just who has seriously considered, is considering, or would be a viable candidate.
          OK - but I was literally adding the only other 2 Indies I've heard about this year (besides Cuban & Shultz). It's a thin crop. In previous years, an Andrew Yang or a Tom Steyer likely would have run as Independents.

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          • #6
            Kasich. He hasn't completely shut the door yet, and would probably be attractive to a lot of people. With state GOP parties rigging the primaries for Trump, going independent may be his only viable option.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Mile High Salute View Post
              Kasich. He hasn't completely shut the door yet, and would probably be attractive to a lot of people. With state GOP parties rigging the primaries for Trump, going independent may be his only viable option.
              He just doesn't seem like the kind of guy that could scare up the resources it would take. Obviously can't self fund.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by BroncoBeavis View Post

                He just doesn't seem like the kind of guy that could scare up the resources it would take. Obviously can't self fund.
                I also don't see him breaking with the Republican party.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by BroncsRule View Post

                  I also don't see him breaking with the Republican party.
                  I think he would if he thought he had a snowball's chance. He'd have to be an epic fundraiser though. With most of his traditional fundraising base already on someone else's koolaid. No reason for him to burn any bridges though if he doesn't think he has that in him. Which I don't think he does.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by BroncoBeavis View Post

                    He just doesn't seem like the kind of guy that could scare up the resources it would take. Obviously can't self fund.
                    I don’t disagree, but it’s lame that’s even a consideration. Why should very wealthy people be the only ones who can run for president? That helped get us Trump. Bloomberg? Schultz? Cuban? Come on, what are those guys’ qualifications other than the fact that they’re rich? What do they know about foreign policy, or how to fix problems like health care, immigration, and climate change? Guys like Kasich and Weld were successful Republican governors by all accounts of purple or even blue states, and yet likely wouldn’t have a real shot as an independent just because they don’t have enough money. It’s a flaw of the system that somebody like Schultz or Bloomberg could waltz in at the 11th hour without having to face any primaries just because they’re billionaires with plenty of money to burn. K, rant over.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Mile High Salute View Post

                      I don’t disagree, but it’s lame that’s even a consideration. Why should very wealthy people be the only ones who can run for president? That helped get us Trump. Bloomberg? Schultz? Cuban? Come on, what are those guys’ qualifications other than the fact that they’re rich? What do they know about foreign policy, or how to fix problems like health care, immigration, and climate change? Guys like Kasich and Weld were successful Republican governors by all accounts of purple or even blue states, and yet likely wouldn’t have a real shot as an independent just because they don’t have enough money. It’s a flaw of the system that somebody like Schultz or Bloomberg could waltz in at the 11th hour without having to face any primaries just because they’re billionaires with plenty of money to burn. K, rant over.
                      I don't think Trump actually had the liquid capital to make a credible run. His celebrity was far more important than his money. And there's virtually nothing you can do about that.

                      The best that you can hope for is a guy that understands how our world and its politics work. The idea that we simply find someone smart enough to 'solve' things like health care is anethema to me and most conservatives. What they need to evaluate is what's broken in market mechanisms. Not design a new health care system anew. Doing so effectively is beyond the most intelligent person in the world. And that person could never get elected anyway.

                      Rich guys, at the very least, are usually fairly in tune with the political machine, and have the capital to get their message out without requiring a lot of the outside help that usually gets other politicians in trouble. It's not perfect. But has a much better shot of delivering something more functional than either of the parties look poised to deliver.

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