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  • #46
    Originally posted by UltimateHoboW/Shotgun View Post



    Teahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh......................... ...........
    ok 1% of the population cannot keep their health plan. Do you know why most of them can't keep their health plan? Because it doesn't meet the minimum standards set up by the ACA. It is basically a junk plan to lure people into payments but in reality offers very little coverage.

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    • #47
      Is anyone here really surprised that Republicans lie 3 times more?

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Guess Who View Post
        ok 1% of the population cannot keep their health plan. Do you know why most of them can't keep their health plan? Because it doesn't meet the minimum standards set up by the ACA. It is basically a junk plan to lure people into payments but in reality offers very little coverage.
        http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapoth...der-obamacare/

        “The Departments’ mid-range estimate is that 66 percent of small employer plans and 45 percent of large employer plans will relinquish their grandfather status by the end of 2013,” wrote the administration on page 34,552 of the Register. All in all, more than half of employer-sponsored plans will lose their “grandfather status” and become illegal. According to the Congressional Budget Office, 156 million Americans—more than half the population—was covered by employer-sponsored insurance in 2013.
        1% my ass.

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        • #49
          Embrace the Suck ................

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          • #50
            republic-ism and democracy-ism are just two sociological faiths. neither is historically validated as THE way and the THE truth and THE light.

            both are merely religious ideologies based on superstition. "if the facts do not conform to the faith, they must be disposed of."

            And the politicians who participate in this theater of the absurd are disgusting vile creatures. IMHO

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              • #52
                Originally posted by errand View Post
                I have friend who was on his wife's plan from her job....but due to the new laws, she could no longer put him on her policy because his employer offers one.

                So he has a worse plan and they are paying more for healthcare.

                As for who lies more...., yeah keep thinking that career politicians don't lie

                I BELIEVE HONESTLY THIS IS A LIE...........

                Since you bothered running your mouth in one of my threads I want

                you to know this is not personal, you are JUST A LIAR.


                SAME POSITION FOR ME AND WIFE AND I CAN GET INSURANCE AT EITHER job and my kids can as well or go online or just call .

                Saved 160 a month on kids healthcare premiums and no subsidies.


                Wife had three mammograms for free recently...........

                Full of chit as usual.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by UltimateHoboW/Shotgun View Post

                  Did you hear Heritage group wants us all to call our reps and tell them to say no to wind and solar subsidies yet when I called them and asked about oil companies subsidies they HUNG UP...................

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                    • #55
                      If you ask me, one of the reasons why the healthcare system has major flaws is that MANY doctors are in this for the big money. I've had several doctors in the past 5 years and 4 of them were so bad, when I walked into the office and when they came into the room, their first comment was, Hi - need a prescription for anything? You could be a healthy 25 year old with no previous surgeries or any medical condition, walk in a say you're not feeling well, they tell you that you have a cold, but we want to follow up with you in a week. They just want to push visits and prescriptions to the max. Insurance companies then have to charge more because the visits and prescriptions are WAY OUT OF CONTROL. And not to mention hospital bills. You can't tell me it's not price gouging when a 20 minute MRI costs $10,000. Americans are so stupid they defend all this and say, yeah, but we have the best healthcare available in the world. I lay most of the blame on Hospitals, clinics and doctors. They charge way too much and they give out too much care that's not even needed.
                      Last edited by ZONA; 12-19-2013, 09:07 PM.

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by ZONA View Post
                        If you ask me, one of the reasons why the healthcare system has major flaws is that MANY doctors are in this for the big money. I've had several doctors in the past 5 years and 4 of them were so bad, when I walked into the office and when they came into the room, their first comment was, Hi - need a prescription for anything? You could be a healthy 25 year old with no previous surgeries or any medical condition, walk in a say you're not feeling well, they tell you that you have a cold, but we want to follow up with you in a week. They just want to push visits and prescriptions to the max. Insurance companies then have to charge more because the visits and prescriptions are WAY OUT OF CONTROL. And not to mention hospital bills. You can't tell me it's not price gouging when a 20 minute MRI costs $10,000. Americans are so stupid they defend all this and say, yeah, but we have the best healthcare available in the world. I lay most of the blame on Hospitals, clinics and doctors. They charge way too much and they give out too much care that's not even needed.
                        You're on the right track with your narrative, but the doctors, clinics and hospitals are just minor players.

                        The major players in this swindle are the drug companies, the insurance industry, and, ultimately, Wall Street.

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by ZONA View Post
                          If you ask me, one of the reasons why the healthcare system has major flaws is that MANY doctors are in this for the big money. I've had several doctors in the past 5 years and 4 of them were so bad, when I walked into the office and when they came into the room, their first comment was, Hi - need a prescription for anything? You could be a healthy 25 year old with no previous surgeries or any medical condition, walk in a say you're not feeling well, they tell you that you have a cold, but we want to follow up with you in a week. They just want to push visits and prescriptions to the max. Insurance companies then have to charge more because the visits and prescriptions are WAY OUT OF CONTROL. And not to mention hospital bills. You can't tell me it's not price gouging when a 20 minute MRI costs $10,000. Americans are so stupid they defend all this and say, yeah, but we have the best healthcare available in the world. I lay most of the blame on Hospitals, clinics and doctors. They charge way too much and they give out too much care that's not even needed.
                          I fully agree here. Most of the doctors I had in CO were pretty good in that you would go there and they would try to diagnose. When I moved to NC, every single freaking time I go to the doctor all they do is listen then ask if I want a referral to a specialist. They just got paid for doing literally nothing. It doesn't help though that pretty much every single doctor has to go through the AMA for certification which do their best to try to limit the number so they can keep the competition low.

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by L.A. BRONCOS FAN View Post
                            You're on the right track with your narrative, but the doctors, clinics and hospitals are just minor players.

                            The major players in this swindle are the drug companies, the insurance industry, and, ultimately, Wall Street.
                            Wrong answer (per the yoozsh)

                            Providers are motivated to both earn more and CYA. Consumers are writing the checks for it on other people's accounts.

                            It's a classic fiscal "tragedy of the commons" scenario. Pooling even more resources into "the commons" is exactly the wrong solution. But that's almost always the prescription we're given.

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by BroncoBeavis View Post
                              Wrong answer (per the yoozsh)

                              Providers are motivated to both earn more and CYA. Consumers are writing the checks for it on other people's accounts.

                              It's a classic fiscal "tragedy of the commons" scenario. Pooling even more resources into "the commons" is exactly the wrong solution. But that's almost always the prescription we're given.
                              You missed the point.

                              Sure, the providers are "motivated to earn more," but their earnings are small potatoes compared to those of the grifters on Wall Street who have turned the health care system into their own private casino.

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by L.A. BRONCOS FAN View Post
                                You missed the point.

                                Sure, the providers are "motivated to earn more," but their earnings are small potatoes compared to those of the grifters on Wall Street who have turned the health care system into their own private casino.
                                Sorry man. But if that were the case the medical inflation of local healthcare would have been significantly less than that of say Big Pharma. But that's just not the case.

                                Local hospitals and providers keep on taking more and more just like everyone else, because it's a system where relatively few deeply care what it costs.

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