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  • L.A. BRONCOS FAN
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    Originally posted by Rohirrim View Post
    Progressive movement Obama belongs to?

    When did that happen?
    Indeed...

    U.S. Eases Rules on Exporting Military Technology to Secure Role as World’s Leading Arms Dealer

    The United States is relaxing controls on military exports, allowing some U.S. military supplies to flow to nearly any country with little oversight.

    “The whole globe, basically, is going to get an easier deal in terms of getting access to U.S. military technology without very many questions asked,” says arms and security expert William Hartung of the U.S. easing controls on military exports.

    “The Obama administration, more than even the Bush administration, bought into the industry’s arguments,” Hartung adds. “Countries are getting license-free spare parts, surveillance equipment, and so forth that can then go onto a human rights abuser or terrorist group,” Hartung explains.

    http://www.democracynow.org/2013/10/...rting_military

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  • Rohirrim
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    Progressive movement Obama belongs to?

    When did that happen?

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  • W*GS
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    Figures gaffe sucks ГРУ cock.

    And WTF is the "EU Times"?

    Mindless propagation of idiocy
    Last edited by W*GS; 10-16-2013, 03:01 PM.

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  • mhgaffney
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    Originally posted by Blart View Post
    I believe the plan was to get a Republican in the white house in '16, which is easier if the economy collapses and the blame falls on the kenyan socialist.

    Instead they're realizing they'll lose the house if they keep it up, so they need a way out quickly while saving face.
    You are taking a lot for granted.

    Check this out.
    http://www.eutimes.net/2013/10/penta...vernment-soon/

    Pentagon Warns To Expect “Radical” Change In US Government Soon
    Posted by EU Times on Oct 5th, 2013 // 554 Comments


    A highly troubling “urgent bulletin” issued earlier today by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs (MoFA) states that it has received information from the Main Intelligence Directorate (GRU) warning to expect a “radical change” in the government of the United States, possibly within the next fortnight, based on information they have received from “highly placed” sources within the Pentagon.

    According to this MoFA bulletin, GRU intelligence assests were notified by their Pentagon counterparts this past week that President Barack Obama is preparing to invoke the powers given to him under 50 USC Chapter 13 to hold that various American States are now in a “state of insurrection” thus allowing him to invoke the National Emergencies Act under 50 USC § 1621 and invoke the highly controversial “continuity of government” plan for the United States allowing him, in essence, to rule with supreme powers.

    Specifically, this bulletin says, Obama will invoke 50 USC § 212 that states: “ the President shall have declared by proclamation that the laws of the United States are opposed, and the execution thereof obstructed, by combinations too powerful to be suppressed by the ordinary course of judicial proceedings”
    The specific laws being opposed by these “combinations too powerful to be suppressed by the ordinary course of judicial proceedings,” that Obama will outline in his reasoning’s for declaring a state of emergency, this bulletin continues, are the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) and Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (PPACA), otherwise known as Obamacare.
    The NDAA is opposed by many US States, this bulletin says, with California joining Alaska and Virginia this past week in passing a law making it illegal to be enforced in their territory, and with many other States, also, preparing to do the same.
    The specific portions of the NDAA law being opposed by these US States allows for the indefinite detention without charges or trial of all American citizens and allows for their assassination should Obama order it.
    The PPACA (Obamacare) law is, likewise, opposed by over half of the US States and has led to an American “shutdown” this past week that has closed 15% of their government, but has left fully 85% of it still open.
    To the specific “combinations too powerful” Obama will cite in his declaration of National Emergency as being needed to be defeated by extraordinary measures, the MoFA says, is a faction of the US House of Representatives popularly known as the Republican Tea Party whom the President and his allies have likened to “hostage takers” and “political terrorists.”

    Obama’s greatest fear, and reason(s) for declaring a National State of Emergency, this bulletin continues, was outlined yesterday by his US Treasury Department who released a report yesterday warning of potentially “catastrophic” damage should Congress fail to raise the debt ceiling and prevent the government from defaulting on its debt.

    As the current US government shutdown crisis and debt ceiling fight have now merged, the MoFA warns in this bulletin, Obama further warned yesterday that an impasse on the debt ceiling beyond 17 October, when the US government will be essentially out of cash to pay its bills, could start a downward economic plunge worse than the recession of five years ago – with credit markets seizing up, the dollar’s value plummeting and US interest rates soaring and even coming close to the brink of such an unprecedented default that could roil both domestic and foreign financial markets.

    Preparing to oppose Obama, should he, in fact, declare a National State of Emergency, the GRU grimly warns, is the US military who themselves are preparing to invoke 50 USC § 842 which allows them to protect America from “The Communist Party of the United States, or any successors of such party regardless of the assumed name, whose object or purpose is to overthrow the Government of the United States, or the government of any State, Territory, District, or possession thereof…”

    Not known to many Americans is that the Progressive movement Obama belongs to, and whose media acolyte “presstitutes” swept into office, have long been associated with the Communist Party.

    And, as the World Net Daily News Service reported this past August, John C. Drew, Ph.D., the award-winning political scientist, met Obama in 1980 and wrote in 2011: “[Obama] believed that the economic stresses of the Carter years meant revolution was still imminent. The election of Reagan was simply a minor set-back in terms of the coming revolution. … Obama was blindly sticking to the simple Marxist theory … ‘there’s going to be a revolution.’ Obama said, ‘we need to be organized and grow the movement.’ In Obama’s view, our role must be to educate others so that we might usher in more quickly this inevitable revolution.”
    With Obama’s “revolution” now at hand, the GRU warns in this bulletin, it is critical to note that that United States, unlike other nations, have all of their elected officials and military personal swear allegiance to the US Constitution, and not to their government or its leaders.
    The most recent example of this conflict between Obama and the US military, the GRU further states, was in Egypt when the Obama regime supported Muslim Brotherhood was overthrown by the Pentagon backed Egyptian military, and who, like the United States, makes its political and military leaders swear allegiance to their constitution, not to any of its leaders.
    As many in America now know that these present times are not the normal activities of a government seeking peace and prosperity, and as dozens of undisclosed Obama Presidential directives that define US national security policy and task government agencies are still unknown either to the public or, as a rule, to the US Congress, this bulletin warns in its summation that with each passing day American can be more likened to a communist dictatorship than a functioning democracy.

    So bad, in fact, has the United States become that one of its legendary reporters, Pulitzer Prize winner Seymour Hersh wrote this past week that the Obama administration lies systematically yet none of the leviathans of American media, the TV networks or big print titles, challenge him.

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  • BroncoBeavis
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    Originally posted by peacepipe View Post
    Maybe not but cuts alone won't fix it. No one will accept cuts to SS or medicare.
    They won't have much choice. The day is coming whether it's good politics or not.

    Then we'll see what worrying about debt ratings really looks like.

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  • peacepipe
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    Maybe not but cuts alone won't fix it. No one will accept cuts to SS or medicare.

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  • BroncoBeavis
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    Originally posted by peacepipe View Post
    Hate to break the news to but tax hikes are going to have to be a part of the deal. Cuts alone aren't going to do it.
    If you adjust what we spent in 2000 for normal inflation, it comes out to about $2.4 trillion today. We're spending $3.8 trillion.

    Over the last 13 years, government spending is up 63%. That can't be sustained.

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  • peacepipe
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    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewir...st-this-battle


    The rethugs have lost this battle pretty convincingly.

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  • peacepipe
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    Anyway, another few hours and this .shutdown will be over and the debt ceiling will be raised. And what will rethugs have to show for it? Nothing. Rethugs got their asses handed to them on this mess they created.

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  • peacepipe
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    Originally posted by BBII View Post
    "Hey, I can make my credit card payment this month. We should get more credit cards!"

    Think long term man. Spending has to be cut if you care about this country's long-term credit rating. These fights are insignificant compared to our financial prospects ahead when our entitlement debts really come due.
    Hate to break the news to but tax hikes are going to have to be a part of the deal. Cuts alone aren't going to do it.

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  • BroncoBeavis
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    Originally posted by Bronco Yoda View Post
    Meanwhile we're now at the brink of another downgrade in the credit rating people.

    The inability to compromise will cost US ALL again. And for what? The ACA is done. Everything now is just adding to the financial pain.

    You simply cannot mess around with our rating. This time it's really interesting because it's not a case of 'cant pay' but rather 'WON'T PAY. There will most likely be a spike in Bond Yields, Mortgage Rates, and really anything that's interest rate related will be affected.

    And this if all goes well which doesn't look good right now.
    "Hey, I can make my credit card payment this month. We should get more credit cards!"

    Think long term man. Spending has to be cut if you care about this country's long-term credit rating. These fights are insignificant compared to our financial prospects ahead when our entitlement debts really come due.

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  • L.A. BRONCOS FAN
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    Originally posted by Rohirrim View Post
    So now Republicans approve of Bush's drunken spending spree?
    Do you recall any of the Bush blowers on this forum sounding the alarm re: spending at any time during Oil Boy's eight-year watch?

    I certainly don't.

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  • Rohirrim
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    I can think of no greater encouragement to the rest of the world to look for a more stable currency elsewhere. The geopolitics of this whole thing is catastrophic. Of course, I doubt the majority of Tea Partiers could spell the word "geopolitic." All they care about is that danged Kenyan Muslim in the White House.

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  • Bronco Yoda
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    Meanwhile we're now at the brink of another downgrade in the credit rating people.

    The inability to compromise will cost US ALL again. And for what? The ACA is done. Everything now is just adding to the financial pain.

    You simply cannot mess around with our rating. This time it's really interesting because it's not a case of 'cant pay' but rather 'WON'T PAY. There will most likely be a spike in Bond Yields, Mortgage Rates, and really anything that's interest rate related will be affected.

    And this if all goes well which doesn't look good right now.

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  • Rohirrim
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    The Tea Party has wanted to destroy our form of government for years. Why would they bother to negotiate now, when victory is within their grasp?

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