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    Classic Faux news is like a bad car wreck.

    Sean Hannity's Birther Conversion

    After much public spectacle and uncountable hours wasted, the reelection of Barack Obama kindled a small, wonderful hope that maybe we were done talking about birth certificates and presidential eligibility. Unfortunately, that discussion has now engulfed Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX): U.S. citizen, presumed presidential aspirant, and accidental Canadian. A few fringe actors have questioned whether Cruz is eligible to occupy the White House, and Fox News' Sean Hannity, who countenanced the high-profile conservative/Republican birther crusade to force Obama to release his birth certificate, is outraged.

    Cruz was born in Calgary 42 years ago to an American mother and a Cuban father. The Constitution requires that the president be a "natural-born citizen," though it does not define the term and the Supreme Court has never specifically defined it either. But Cruz has been a U.S. citizen since birth and there's no real reason to think he can't run for president should he so choose and hold that office if elected. Being born in Alberta, however, means that Cruz is, or was a some point, also a citizen of Canada. Presumably seeking to nip the eligibility question in the bud, Cruz released his birth certificate on August 18 and announced that he would renounce any formal ties he still retains to our northern neighbor.

    Hannity said during his August 19 Fox program that Cruz's actions "put this so-called controversy to rest," and went on to attack "the left" for "flirting with birtherism," asking whether it means liberals are "racist against a Hispanic":

    Absent from Hannity's attack on "the left" was any specific example of a high-profile liberal or Democrat who has actually questioned Cruz's eligibility. That differentiates Cruz birtherism from Obama birtherism, which has adherents in the House Republican caucus, was endorsed by Hannity's Fox News colleagues, and became an absurd national spectacle in early 2011 owing to the incessant agitating of fake Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump.

    The two strains also differ in that no one doubts Cruz's U.S. citizenship or his place of birth, while the animating principle of Obama birthers is that Obama is lying about where he was born and engaged in a decades-long conspiracy to falsify documents to that effect.

    At the time, Sean Hannity didn't really have a problem with the fact that so many prominent people on his side of the ideological spectrum were enthusiastic believers in an insane, sprawling conspiracy theory, and repeatedly stated that the president should release his birth certificate (Obama had done so, three years earlier). In fact, in April 2011, at the height of the birther craze, Hannity sat down with Trump for a softball interview and asked him what his "team of investigators in Hawaii" had come up with regarding Obama's birth certificate. (SPOILER: nothing, because there was nothing to find and the "investigators" very likely didn't exist.)

    http://mediamatters.org/blog/2013/08...version/195492

  • #2
    The hypocrisy of FOX News and the GOP collaboration can't be lost on media observers as the GOP votes to censor/ban CNN and NBC if they don't agree to drop the Clinton documentary.

    FOX appears comfortable with media censorship, since they long ago dropped all pretenses of being anything more than the loony right's (Tea Party, birthers etc.) mouthpiece.

    The spectacle of the far right shooting itself in the foot yet again is amazing to watch......and I must say, entertaining.

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    • #3
      Anyone who thinks the hypocrisy of the right with regard to Obama's birth certificate and eligibility for the presidency vs. Cruz's will be missed by those who vote is clueless. He probably never would have gotten the nomination regardless, but now he's got no chance.

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      • #4
        Hillary in a landslide.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by houghtam View Post
          Anyone who thinks the hypocrisy of the right with regard to Obama's birth certificate and eligibility for the presidency vs. Cruz's will be missed by those who vote is clueless. He probably never would have gotten the nomination regardless, but now he's got no chance.
          Chris Christie also has no chance, as he "dared" to call out the party-towing Republicans. If the Republicans don't start identifying a candidate with a legitimate shot, Hillary will win...

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Rigs11 View Post
            Hillary in a landslide.
            If that's the only hope we have left, then we truly have no hope.

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            • #7
              Cruz is still a Canadian citizen, however he has stated he is in the process of filing papers to give up his Canadian citizenship which should take him about 6-12 months to do.

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              • #8
                In one way, it's kind of funny. Our government massively violates the 4th amendment and pretty much takes a **** all over the Constitution, and we're worried about where some presidential candidate was born?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Rigs11 View Post
                  Classic Faux news is like a bad car wreck.

                  Sean Hannity's Birther Conversion

                  After much public spectacle and uncountable hours wasted, the reelection of Barack Obama kindled a small, wonderful hope that maybe we were done talking about birth certificates and presidential eligibility. Unfortunately, that discussion has now engulfed Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX): U.S. citizen, presumed presidential aspirant, and accidental Canadian. A few fringe actors have questioned whether Cruz is eligible to occupy the White House, and Fox News' Sean Hannity, who countenanced the high-profile conservative/Republican birther crusade to force Obama to release his birth certificate, is outraged.

                  Cruz was born in Calgary 42 years ago to an American mother and a Cuban father. The Constitution requires that the president be a "natural-born citizen," though it does not define the term and the Supreme Court has never specifically defined it either. But Cruz has been a U.S. citizen since birth and there's no real reason to think he can't run for president should he so choose and hold that office if elected. Being born in Alberta, however, means that Cruz is, or was a some point, also a citizen of Canada. Presumably seeking to nip the eligibility question in the bud, Cruz released his birth certificate on August 18 and announced that he would renounce any formal ties he still retains to our northern neighbor.

                  Hannity said during his August 19 Fox program that Cruz's actions "put this so-called controversy to rest," and went on to attack "the left" for "flirting with birtherism," asking whether it means liberals are "racist against a Hispanic":

                  Absent from Hannity's attack on "the left" was any specific example of a high-profile liberal or Democrat who has actually questioned Cruz's eligibility. That differentiates Cruz birtherism from Obama birtherism, which has adherents in the House Republican caucus, was endorsed by Hannity's Fox News colleagues, and became an absurd national spectacle in early 2011 owing to the incessant agitating of fake Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump.

                  The two strains also differ in that no one doubts Cruz's U.S. citizenship or his place of birth, while the animating principle of Obama birthers is that Obama is lying about where he was born and engaged in a decades-long conspiracy to falsify documents to that effect.

                  At the time, Sean Hannity didn't really have a problem with the fact that so many prominent people on his side of the ideological spectrum were enthusiastic believers in an insane, sprawling conspiracy theory, and repeatedly stated that the president should release his birth certificate (Obama had done so, three years earlier). In fact, in April 2011, at the height of the birther craze, Hannity sat down with Trump for a softball interview and asked him what his "team of investigators in Hawaii" had come up with regarding Obama's birth certificate. (SPOILER: nothing, because there was nothing to find and the "investigators" very likely didn't exist.)

                  http://mediamatters.org/blog/2013/08...version/195492
                  If he's ever held duel citizenship then he cannot apply for the job. Whihc was also the argument against the current President.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Garcia Bronco View Post
                    If he's ever held duel citizenship then he cannot apply for the job. Whihc was also the argument against the current President.
                    This is untrue.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Garcia Bronco View Post
                      If he's ever held duel citizenship then he cannot apply for the job. Whihc was also the argument against the current President.
                      Some countries assume you as a citizen whenever one of your parents is. I think Mexico is that way.

                      So I guess you'd have to also say that Americans with Mexican parents are ineligible to run for President? Or wait, since Mexico assumes children born to Mexicans are Mexicans, then even their kids would be assumed Mexicans too. Well I guess most latinos in the Southwest are off the list then.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Rigs11 View Post
                        Hillary in a landslide.

                        You mean Hillary Clinton, the original birther?

                        http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/22345

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Rigs11 View Post
                          Cruz was born in Calgary 42 years ago to an American mother and a Cuban father. The Constitution requires that the president be a "natural-born citizen," though it does not define the term and the Supreme Court has never specifically defined it either.
                          Congressional Acts define it.


                          And the children of citizens of the United States that may be born beyond Sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born Citizens: Provided, that the right of citizenship shall not descend to persons whose fathers have never been resident in the United States
                          Naturalization Act of 1790

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                          • #14
                            How convenient for Obama

                            Hawaii official who confirmed Obama birth certificate dies in crash

                            Lorretta Fuddy was killed after a small plane with nine people aboard crashed into the water off the Hawaiian island of Molokai

                            By Josh Levs, CNN
                            updated 3:18 PM EST, Thu December 12, 2013

                            CNN) -- Loretta Fuddy, the Hawaii official who confirmed the authenticity of President Obama's birth record in Hawaii, died Wednesday night in a small-plane crash.

                            The aircraft, with nine passengers on board, crashed into the ocean about a mile off Kalaupapa, Molokai, on Wednesday, the U.S. Coast Guard said.

                            The other eight people survived, Petty Officer Stephen Woodbury said. One person swam ashore, a Maui Fire Department helicopter picked up four, and a Coast Guard helicopter rescued three.

                            Fuddy was director of the state's health department.

                            "Our hearts are broken," Gov. Neil Abercrombie said in a prepared statement. "Loretta was deeply loved and respected. She was selfless, utterly dedicated and committed to her colleagues in the Department of Health and to the people of Hawaii. Her knowledge was vast; her counsel and advice always given from her heart as much as from her storehouse of experience."

                            In April 2011, Fuddy confirmed Obama's "long form" birth certificate as part of the state's effort to put to rest questions about whether he was really born in the United States.

                            "I have seen the original records filed at the Department of Health and attest to the authenticity of the certified copies the department provided to the President that further prove the fact that he was born in Hawaii," she said at the time.

                            A biography at hawaiihealthconnector.com said she was a recognized leader in the public health field and won numerous awards for her work. Her hobbies included singing in a church choir, "enjoying her cat Flint, and spending time with her grand nieces and nephews."

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by El Minion View Post
                              How convenient for the Birthers
                              FYP

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