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Old 09-13-2011, 12:32 PM   #1
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I’m sure there are plenty of old Orange Mane hacks that have some convoluted set of excuses for Orton’s pathetic performance last night but I won’t indulge in the debate and the hate.

Instead …I’m just going to do one long gloat about Orton. After that I’m done, Orton’s uninspired play last night spoke for itself.

This was my first post on the OM for the 2011 season on 8-20-2011. The rest of the posts was comments made before last nights’ game.

8-20-11
Hi Guys, it’s been a long time. I had to get on and rant a little. I’m just sick and tired of not having a solid QB on our beloved Broncos. We’re now in our 12th year of QB controversies with no end in sight. 1 playoff win since the last ring and other than 2006 we’ve been in a swirling vortex spinning in a downward spiral. My opinion on the latest QB controversy?

Orton sucked yesterday, he will tonight and will tomorrow. Yes, he has more “experience” than Tebow or Quinn but that is his only qualifier. I can't say Tebow at this point is a better option either nor Quinn.

I’m still cursing McD for signing Orton to 2 year deal. Had he signed him to a one year contract instead, Orton would be gone and setting on the bench of some perennial loser as a back up or maybe out the NFL altogether. If Orton is the best we can do we’re in for another long, painful and intensely boring season. There said it, I’m done.

I'm trying to be upbeat and positive but I just don't see a dramatic turn around this season on O. I think the only thing we can hope for is that the Broncos can finally play some better D than they did last year. I think that'll happen but on O? Doubtful… Someone give me some good karma, I’m just not feeling it.

8-25-11
(About one fan who said Moreno will rush for 1400 yards this season.)
I admire your optimism but Moreno has yet to prove he’s even close to putting up those kinds of yards. I’m not sure the OL will be as good against better D’s. They're still very young and inexperienced. As for Orton’s red zone predictions, I’m not sure that I’d agree with that assessment either. He was terrible inside the 20 completing passes last year.

8-25-11
The only reason and I mean the only reason Orton is still in Denver is because he’s set to make $8.4 million and no team was moronic enough to trade for him. We can thank the genius McD for that move too. I’m positive had the money not been an issue Orton would have been down the road and it would have been a unanimous decision by Bowlen, Elway and Fox to (trade) do so.

The Broncos win a meaningless preseason game against the Bills one of the worst teams in all of football and suddenly Orton is a solid starter? COME ON!!! I can’t wait to see these haters eat their words by mid-season when Tebow is starting and Orton is sitting on the bench sulking because the Broncos are 2-6.

8-21-11
If my memory serves me right Orton played liked a Bum last year. People have short memories and live in the NOW I guess. It’s laughable that in one game the Mighty Quinn would vault over Tebow when this guy has nothing to indicate from past starting performances that he in any way will be a starting NFL QB, none.

So just chill out let the preseason play out the next 2 weeks. On opening day we could see a whole different scenario. Orton or Quinn could be on another team. I hope its Orton because once they count we can expect the same guy (Orton) we saw last year to show up. Quinn? Please…

8-21-2011
I think its way too soon write off Tebow. All this talk reminds of Elway's rookie year. We all know Elway had way better mechanics and a throwing arm than Tebow does. But Elway early on was very mistake prone, forcing balls in, under throwing then over throwing the ball, not looking for other receivers, impatience in the pocket. Sound familiar?

The national sports media, the writers at the Denver Post and Rocky Mountain News all dog piled on Elway early. They were unmerciful have you guys forgotten that? Many wanted to see him fail and flame out just as bad as Tebow.

I love how these geek draft-nicks think that next year’s draft will always produce another great QB. Quality talented players like Tebow are not available year to year and some just need more time to get their head in the game, that’s all this is. Remember how rough Favre was around the edges? Early in his career he’d throw 4 TD’s one game then 4 INT’s the next. The same could be said of Elway.

Tebow stays IMO and should learn the system. He’s a winner, a warrior and the thing I like best about him doesn’t quit on a play. Once he learns the game in the NFL he’ll be one of the best red zone threats the Broncos have ever had. It amazes how day to day people live and think like there’s not going to be a tomorrow. On Monday Tebow be back in practice and my guess getting playing time in the next 2 preseason games.

My prediction: By mid-season Tebow will be the starter for the Broncos.

8-20-11
The truth is Orton had far more offensive weapons on his team 2 years ago than he does today. Moreno hasn’t impressed, the free agent RB’s have proven zip, no proven #2 or #3 WR as of yet and the same at the TE position. The OL is coming along and the running game just can’t nose dive any lower than last year so what have you got? Good Ol’ #8 out there to save the day? Looking for Lloyd on every pass down will fool somebody this year? Quinn? You really believe those 2 are going to transform the Broncos back to a winning franchise? Carry this team on their backs?

Tebow hating aside, the QB position is the least of the problems. The D gets better under Fox we agree but this O could be equal to or worse than last year very easily.

5-11 is ceiling. 3-13 the basement. 8-8 would be a very successful season for the Broncos; I wish I believed it could happen. If the Broncos can play some better D which they should this year they could go 8-8. I think too many have heaped large expectations on the young OL. I'm not convinced they'll be able to run or pass against better defensive teams.

He (Orton) stinks like a dead animal pit, like maggots on a gut wagon.

Old quote: "Orton has lost eight of nine, 14 of 17 and 17 of his past 22 starts."

9-13-11
New quote: "Orton has lost nine of ten, 15 of 18 and 18 of his past 23 starts."

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Old 09-13-2011, 12:43 PM   #2
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Why don't you link the thread? I remember it but one thing that bothers me is when someone wants to gloat that they were correct about our failures as you pointed out:

I can’t wait to see these haters eat their words by mid-season when Tebow is starting and Orton is sitting on the bench sulking because the Broncos are 2-6.

Therefore, you are hoping we are 2 and 6 so Tebow can start, correct? I would rather be completely wrong on Orton and have the Broncos 6-2 and eat crow. Maybe it is me but I am more of a Broncos fan then the individual fan.
There will be some crow eating if this keeps up. I think there is so much hatred for Orton that many will forget that there are 52 other players that can suck much worse but not be in the spotlight. If we are going to suck real bad, we can spread the hatred around where it is warranted.
As of last night's game, Orton gets his due blame but there were so many stupid mistakes all around. My hope is if Orton is QB, we get Tebow into those goal line packages that worked well last year. A difference of 4 points in those situations can be a win instead of a loss. I do think we will have close games like last night. Hopefully we will be the 23 to 20 winner more times than not.
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remember, everyone of the posters here that said Orton sucks or our team sucks gets to start his own thread instead of being like most and contribute to the 20 other threads that are active. Sometimes there are posters that need the "look at me" validation. Some do it by recalling posts. Others do it with Lobsters. Whatever makes them feel whole.
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Old 09-13-2011, 01:07 PM   #5
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remember, everyone of the posters here that said Orton sucks or our team sucks gets to start his own thread instead of being like most and contribute to the 20 other threads that are active. Sometimes there are posters that need the "look at me" validation. Some do it by recalling posts. Others do it with Lobsters. Whatever makes them feel whole.
This is typical response I expected from people on this board who said Orton was best starting option the Broncos had at QB. No defense can be made none, the team as a whole did not play well last night, I'm aware of that. But Orton as usually did nothing to aide in a win and has nothing to lift up our team. Nothing, in my opinion he's the worst starting QB in the league and he proved it last night. Period.
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This is typical response I expected from people on this board who said Orton was best starting option the Broncos had at QB. No defense can be made none, the team as a whole did not play well last night, I'm aware of that. But Orton as usually did nothing to aide in a win and has nothing to lift up our team. Nothing, in my opinion he's the worst starting QB in the league and he proved it last night. Period.


It's the Broncos coaches who have said that Orton is the best starting option that the Broncos have at QB. They continue to believe this, and laugh at the notion of starting Tebow over Orton at this point. John Fox has gone far enough to say that Orton is one of the best quarterbacks he's EVER worked with.
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It's the Broncos coaches who have said that Orton is the best starting option that the Broncos have at QB. They continue to believe this, and laugh at the notion of starting Tebow over Orton at this point. John Fox has gone far enough to say that Orton is one of the best quarterbacks he's EVER worked with.
The John Fox is either a bad liar or too damn stupid to know what a good QB looks like. I have never seen him LAUGHING about starting Tebow over Orton.

If this is indeed the case, I am already off of the John Fox bandwagon.

IF, and this is a large IF, But If the performance of Kyle Orton last night is as good as we have available on the current roster, Denver Bronco football is worse than it was back in 1960.

Kyle Orton led Denver to a grand total of 1 td drive last night at the home opener. He personally was accountable for more turnovers.
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Old 09-13-2011, 01:58 PM   #8
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The John Fox is either a bad liar or too damn stupid to know what a good QB looks like. I have never seen him LAUGHING about starting Tebow over Orton.

If this is indeed the case, I am already off of the John Fox bandwagon.

IF, and this is a large IF, But If the performance of Kyle Orton last night is as good as we have available on the current roster, Denver Bronco football is worse than it was back in 1960.

Kyle Orton led Denver to a grand total of 1 td drive last night at the home opener. He personally was accountable for more turnovers.
Well we're taking Claussen, Rodney Peete, Jake Delhomme, and Chris 'gimme a' Winke here.
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