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Old 09-13-2011, 02:31 AM   #1
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Well, expect a whole lot of spin from the Broncos and the Denver media (Denver Post) after this game. There's going to be a lot of excuses made for Orton.

I'm still unsure about how the Denver Post thinks that their interests are more in telling Broncos fans what they should think instead of investigating stories that appeal to them and finding out information related to what Broncos fans want to know.

Apparently the writers at the Denver Post do not understand in the least why Broncos fans would be upset with Orton's consistent losing performances. They don't understand his red zone woes, don't understand that he racks up his statistics in garbage time, and that he doesn't make big plays or plays in crucial moments.

Orton will rarely get you out to big leads, rarely consistently lead the team on sustained drives, will rarely convert TD's at a high rate in the red zone, will rarely convert game changing plays, etc.

Its like they don't understand that Broncos fans SAW Tebow play three games last season. They SAW with their own eyes an exciting young player who won a game in Elway fashion and made the Broncos competitive. A player who relishes competition, and who makes critical plays. A player who doesn't wilt in the red zone, but excels there.

So the media and the Broncos kept telling us that there was a competition at QB. Lie. There was no competition. They kept telling us how good Orton was and how Tebow was a worse QB than Spencer Larsen. But none of it ever passed the eye test. Tebow never looked that bad and Orton never looked that good. It never looked like there was a QB competition.

Broncos fans understand what Orton is, and they understand that he's not good enough to start over Tebow. Especially in a year where the team is on a trajectory for a poor season and Orton will not be returning. Especially in a year where Broncos fans want something to pull for.

So Denver Post...quit trying to tell us what to think. If you think your job is to control sentiment about the Denver Broncos, then you should be ashamed of yourselves. Do your job and dig up information. Find stories. Tell us why the Broncos didnt improve their team in free agency. Tell us the REAL reason why Orton is playing QB. Tell us why the Fox regime were incompetent at evaluating the offensive line talent and believing that we could run the ball. Do something productive.
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Old 09-13-2011, 02:34 AM   #2
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The Denver media reports what the Broncos tell them to report for the most part. It's really that simple.
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Old 09-13-2011, 02:34 AM   #3
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Orton is an average QB. A top tier backup QB. Not a starter.
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Old 09-13-2011, 02:36 AM   #4
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Orton is an average QB. A top tier backup QB. Not a starter.
He's statistically average. On the field he's just plain bad.
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Why would anyone read the Denver post... That is like anyone in SoCal reading the behind the times, LA times. No one does.
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Old 09-13-2011, 06:39 AM   #6
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Orton is what he is. He's a mediocre QB. But he's not the primary problem with the offense. The offensive line is.
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Old 09-13-2011, 06:53 AM   #7
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The team can barely line up correctly on offense or on defense. If you think the Orton offense is an "aborton", I can't wait to see how you'd react to Tebow/Quinn behind center trying to figure out where to get all the players even positioned.
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Well, expect a whole lot of spin from the Broncos and the Denver media (Denver Post) after this game. There's going to be a lot of excuses made for Orton.

I'm still unsure about how the Denver Post thinks that their interests are more in telling Broncos fans what they should think instead of investigating stories that appeal to them and finding out information related to what Broncos fans want to know.

Apparently the writers at the Denver Post do not understand in the least why Broncos fans would be upset with Orton's consistent losing performances. They don't understand his red zone woes, don't understand that he racks up his statistics in garbage time, and that he doesn't make big plays or plays in crucial moments.

Orton will rarely get you out to big leads, rarely consistently lead the team on sustained drives, will rarely convert TD's at a high rate in the red zone, will rarely convert game changing plays, etc.

Its like they don't understand that Broncos fans SAW Tebow play three games last season. They SAW with their own eyes an exciting young player who won a game in Elway fashion and made the Broncos competitive. A player who relishes competition, and who makes critical plays. A player who doesn't wilt in the red zone, but excels there.

So the media and the Broncos kept telling us that there was a competition at QB. Lie. There was no competition. They kept telling us how good Orton was and how Tebow was a worse QB than Spencer Larsen. But none of it ever passed the eye test. Tebow never looked that bad and Orton never looked that good. It never looked like there was a QB competition.

Broncos fans understand what Orton is, and they understand that he's not good enough to start over Tebow. Especially in a year where the team is on a trajectory for a poor season and Orton will not be returning. Especially in a year where Broncos fans want something to pull for.

So Denver Post...quit trying to tell us what to think. If you think your job is to control sentiment about the Denver Broncos, then you should be ashamed of yourselves. Do your job and dig up information. Find stories. Tell us why the Broncos didnt improve their team in free agency. Tell us the REAL reason why Orton is playing QB. Tell us why the Fox regime were incompetent at evaluating the offensive line talent and believing that we could run the ball. Do something productive.
I was going to "bold" some of the good points in this post until I realized that it was the whole f'ing post.
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Old 09-13-2011, 06:58 AM   #9
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Previous post from Rev's Thread:

@wingoz - Trey Wingo
I wonder if all those people chanting for Tebow realized what Orton just did while getting pummeled on every play

@priscoCBS - Pete Prisco
Dumbest thing is Broncos fans cheering for Tebow. Come on

@TonyDRadio - Tony Deisere
Tebow does not lead that drive for a touchdown...stop the talk

@espn4d - Pat Forde
I've been critical of the guy, but gotta give Orton his due for leading that drive in the rain, fans chanting Tebow, Lloyd on sideline.

@natekreckman - Nate Kreckman
Tebow is impervious to a wet football. I think Aquaman is also.
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Old 09-13-2011, 07:11 AM   #10
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The worst part about Orton is he honestly thinks he's good. Manning and Brady all believe they can not just get better, but significantly better. You listen to Orton talk and he says he "knows he's good" and talks about how he is confident in his ability but doesn't change. They need to have Orton on that Intervention show.
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The worst part about Orton is he honestly thinks he's good. Manning and Brady all believe they can not just get better, but significantly better. You listen to Orton talk and he says he "knows he's good" and talks about how he is confident in his ability but doesn't change. They need to have Orton on that Intervention show.
I think it's his mission in life to be a starting quarterback. That's it. To start. He genuinely feels like he's accomplished something.

Mentally, he just doesn't seem to have an all-consuming passion to win or to get a first down or whatever.
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Old 09-13-2011, 07:14 AM   #13
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Well, expect a whole lot of spin from the Broncos and the Denver media (Denver Post) after this game. There's going to be a lot of excuses made for Orton.

I'm still unsure about how the Denver Post thinks that their interests are more in telling Broncos fans what they should think instead of investigating stories that appeal to them and finding out information related to what Broncos fans want to know.

Apparently the writers at the Denver Post do not understand in the least why Broncos fans would be upset with Orton's consistent losing performances. They don't understand his red zone woes, don't understand that he racks up his statistics in garbage time, and that he doesn't make big plays or plays in crucial moments.

Orton will rarely get you out to big leads, rarely consistently lead the team on sustained drives, will rarely convert TD's at a high rate in the red zone, will rarely convert game changing plays, etc.

Its like they don't understand that Broncos fans SAW Tebow play three games last season. They SAW with their own eyes an exciting young player who won a game in Elway fashion and made the Broncos competitive. A player who relishes competition, and who makes critical plays. A player who doesn't wilt in the red zone, but excels there.

So the media and the Broncos kept telling us that there was a competition at QB. Lie. There was no competition. They kept telling us how good Orton was and how Tebow was a worse QB than Spencer Larsen. But none of it ever passed the eye test. Tebow never looked that bad and Orton never looked that good. It never looked like there was a QB competition.

Broncos fans understand what Orton is, and they understand that he's not good enough to start over Tebow. Especially in a year where the team is on a trajectory for a poor season and Orton will not be returning. Especially in a year where Broncos fans want something to pull for.

So Denver Post...quit trying to tell us what to think. If you think your job is to control sentiment about the Denver Broncos, then you should be ashamed of yourselves. Do your job and dig up information. Find stories. Tell us why the Broncos didnt improve their team in free agency. Tell us the REAL reason why Orton is playing QB. Tell us why the Fox regime were incompetent at evaluating the offensive line talent and believing that we could run the ball. Do something productive.
The Bronco's problem is far deeper and wider than the QB.
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The Bronco's problem is far deeper and wider than the QB.
You're absolutely right - the problem started with the FO backing this turd.
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BTW, if you wanna hear conversation on the game, Vic & Gary are on the air at www.denverssportsstation.com

Early thoughts from them are that Orton didn't play well but he wasn't the reason they lost - the OL and run D are.
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the OL? was it the OL that folded up when orton had 2 guys wide open right in front of him in the end zone but instead took a sack? or was it the OL or run D the ones that just DROPPED a football untouched? a lot of mistakes were made in this game, but orton made the biggest ones, by far. the ones that literally cost the game.
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Old 09-13-2011, 07:30 AM   #17
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I couldn't believe the were chanting Tebow.
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Old 09-13-2011, 07:30 AM   #18
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BTW, if you wanna hear conversation on the game, Vic & Gary are on the air at www.denverssportsstation.com

Early thoughts from them are that Orton didn't play well but he wasn't the reason they lost - the OL and run D are.
Go smack them with their own mics for being idiots for me, please.
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I couldn't believe the were chanting Tebow.
do you blame them? this is two years in a row weve seen the QB put up great stats yet absolutely suck when hes in the RZ or when the team needs him most. the media cannot be watching the same game as the fans, or atleast to the same level of attention.
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do you blame them? this is two years in a row weve seen the QB put up great stats yet absolutely suck when hes in the RZ or when the team needs him most. the media cannot be watching the same game as the fans, or atleast to the same level of attention.
Maybe they're watching the CPU play the CPU in Madden 12?


On a side note - first move this morning was deleting Orton from my Madden 12 franchise.
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You're done, Kyle Orton.

It's absolutely unfair to place all the blame on Orton for the bumbling, fumbling, not-ready-for-prime-time performance of the Broncos during Monday Night Football​, when they lost 23-20 to Oakland.

But Orton has lost all credibility with Broncomaniacs.

And John Fox now finds himself in an unusually bad spot after only one loss as the coach in Denver.



Read more: Kiszla: Broncos' Kyle Orton has lost his credibility with bored fans - The Denver Post http://www.denverpost.com/sports/ci_...#ixzz1XoGoJFNh
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You're done, Kyle Orton.

It's absolutely unfair to place all the blame on Orton for the bumbling, fumbling, not-ready-for-prime-time performance of the Broncos during Monday Night Football​, when they lost 23-20 to Oakland.

But Orton has lost all credibility with Broncomaniacs.

And John Fox now finds himself in an unusually bad spot after only one loss as the coach in Denver.



Read more: Kiszla: Broncos' Kyle Orton has lost his credibility with bored fans - The Denver Post http://www.denverpost.com/sports/ci_...#ixzz1XoGoJFNh
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I couldn't believe the were chanting Tebow.
I couldn't believe the chants didn't start after effing up that golden red zone opportunity on the Fade's early fumble.
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What you have to understand about people who earn their living with an opinion, they have a "brand" their name builds to. Because of that, when they make a very strong stance - it's vital to them that they're proven right (even if they have to spin it).
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What you have to understand about people who earn their living with an opinion, they have a "brand" their name builds to. Because of that, when they make a very strong stance - it's vital to them that they're proven right (even if they have to spin it).
Which basically means they have to outright lie about what they saw with their own eyes or suffer the wrath of the team their covering.
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