|09-09-2011, 11:22 PM||#1|
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Tony Blair calls for regime change in Syria and Iran...
Tony Blair has called for regime change in Syria and Iran. He says an Iranian Bomb will destabilize the region. Talk about cheek.
This is code language for: If they get nukes we won't be able to steal their oil...
Blair needs to spend the rest of his days in the same cell with GW Bush.
War Criminal Wants More Death And Destruction
Tony Blair Calls for Regime Change in Iran and Syria
Former prime minister warns that Middle East would be 'very, very badly destabilised if Iran acquired nuclear weapons
By Nicholas Watt
Chief political correspondent
September 09, 2011 "The Guardian" -- Tony Blair calls for regime change in Iran and Syria as he blames Tehran for prolonging the conflict in Iraq after the 2003 invasion.
In an interview to mark the 10th anniversary of the 9/11 attacks, the former prime minister warns that the Middle East would be "very, very badly" destabilised if Iran acquired nuclear weapons.
Blair, who is the Middle East peace envoy, tells the Times: "Regime change in Tehran would immediately make me significantly more optimistic about the whole of the region. If Iran were to acquire nuclear weapons capability it would destabilise the region very, very badly.
"They continue to support groups that are engaged with terrorism and the forces of reaction. In Iraq one of the main problems has been the continued intervention of Iran and likewise in Afghanistan."
The former prime minister appears to be open to the idea of a military attack against Iran if it comes close to acquiring nuclear missiles. But he makes clear he was not advocating a military strike.
He does not suggest that Syria presents the same threat as Iran. But he says that Syria would be better off if President Bashar al-Assad, the president, stands down. Blair says: "He is not going to lead the programme of change in Syria now. He has shown he is not capable of reform. His position is untenable. There is no process of change that leaves him intact."
Assad humiliated Blair when the former prime minister took the rare step of visiting Damascus after the 9/11 attacks to build up support for a coalition against al-Qaida and the Taliban. At a press conference with Blair, the Syrian president likened Palestinian terrorists to the Free French forces in the second world war.
Blair warns that the world still faces a lengthy battle to defeat groups that have distorted Islam. "We are a long way from getting out of this," he says. The former prime minister adds: "The threat is still from the same ideology and the same narrative which is based on a perverted view of religion and which regards cultures and faiths as in fundamental conflict with each other."
Blair says Britain and the US had initially failed to understand the popularity of the theory that the west is intent on conflict. "I think the thing that we came to learn later is that even though the number of actual extremists was very small, the number of people who bought a certain amount of the narrative that gave rise to that extremism was worryingly large. And, the real reason why it was difficult in Afghanistan and then in Iraq – and is difficult actually all over the region of the Middle East at the moment, is that the narrative in which religion is mixed up with politics and in which the idea that 'the West is inherently in conflict with us' – that ideology, that has those ideas in it, in a very toxic way, is far more widespread than we understood at the time.
"And so what that means is that you can knock out – militarily – the regime, but then when you're engaged in the process of nation building afterwards it's not like nation building was in say the Balkans or eastern Europe. You know, you're nation building in circumstances where there are groups of people prepared to use terrorism and in particular suicide bombing to destroy your attempt to build a country."
Blair added that the anti-west ideology made it difficult to rebuild nations after conflicts. "So you may have the best intentions in the world in building it but they're actually viscerally opposed to the type of nation you're trying to build, which is an open and a democratic nation. And that's, I think that ideology is still very much with us."
© 2011 Guardian News and Media Limited
|09-10-2011, 10:19 AM||#2|
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As usual, Gaffeny perverts headlines, to push his agenda, and then attributes them to otherwise credible sources. Being careful to omit the link.
The actual Guardian headline.
Tony Blair calls for regime change in Iran and Syria
There is nothing Blair has commented upon that hasn't been said by those who actually live under the boot of those regimes.
His comments, and many others, give those people a worldwide voice and hope.
Gaffney's a shill for dictators and religious wackos, if they are Israel's enemy.
|09-10-2011, 10:49 AM||#3|
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Funny how you see things gaff it couldn't possibly be blair sees two awful dictators that are a crime to humanity naaaaaaa cant be that, gaff sees ( invasion plans) just wow its fools like you that keep feeding the nut jobs of the world everything is a conspiracy.
I feel sorry for the poor bastards that have to live under those regimes.
|09-10-2011, 11:11 AM||#4|
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|09-10-2011, 03:46 PM||#5|
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No -- I have actually done just the opposite. I have consistently criticized the US government for its support of dictators -- which is the actual history.
How come you clowns do not understand this? It's because you get your factoids from TV. You are sheeple --- and unwittingly are being subliminally programed by TV to think about the world in a certain way -- and to hold the shallow opinions that the fabricators of "the news" want you to hold.
The answer -- as I have repeatedly stated --is to turn off the boob tube and to read and study - - i.e., to search for the truth. But you clowns make it clear at almost every turn that you'd rather burn books than read them.
I suggest you reform yourselves. A good place to start would be KILLING HOPE by William Blum, a former US diplomat who saw the light -- and wrote a scathing indictment of US foreign policy.
Here is one of 26 five-star reviews at amazon:
Best book on the topic....
This is perhaps the best political book I have read, certainly the best on US foreign policy I have seen anywhere. Every American needs to get this book and investigate what it says. If they doubt its truthfulness they can look in other places to find further information, but the plain fact is most Americans would not know 99% of what is in this book...and they have to or our "democracy" is a joke. Even if this book is biased, a biased view that can be investigated is better than total ignorance. However I do not think this book is that biased to begin with, most of the actual facts exist in thousands of other books, they have just never been brought together so effectively.
While there are a lot of books out there on the evils of American foreign policy, this is the only one I have seen that goes through country by country, state by state to show how we intervened, year after year. There are other books by authors such as Noam Chomsky that may contain more detail and analysis, but none are as complete or are ordered so well.
After you read this you cannot help but put foreign policy as the main issue you care about in politics. Sure domestic issues are important, but what can that compare to us literally participating in the killing of thousands, and in some cases millions overseas? How can you even weigh domestic concerns compared to supporting torturing dictators for decades? The fact is our foreign policy is not that of the Nazi's, it differs in one very important way: we have gotten away with it for 50 years.
This book will give you as ugly a view of America as there is, but if you want to improve things (if thats even possible anymore) you need to start with the ugly truth.
--Kathy Hendrix, Dallas
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|09-10-2011, 04:01 PM||#6|
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Ps: and this is to Ro -- where is your criticism of Tony Blair?
The truth is you are a hypocrite. Liberal on domestic policy -- yet a stormtrooper when it comes to the wider world. Your own manner of cowboy.
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