Boehner's Wet Dream Of A Week

[Smiling Assassin27]

Speaker of the House had a pretty solid week. First, he told Obama that his proposed campaign speech (libs still think it's a 'jobs speech'..lol) would not work on the proposed date due to the GOP monkey debate on that night. The President caved and decided to oppose the, gulp, NFL instead.

But just slightly MORE important, Mr. Speaker sent a letter to Obama ripping the new proposed EPA Regulations and DOT rules and their costs to taxpayers on Tuesday. Today:

President Barack Obama, citing the nation's struggling economy, asked the Environmental Protection Agency to withdraw an air quality rule that Republicans and business groups have said could cost tens of billions of dollars a year or more and kill thousands of jobs.

The surprise move came as the economic recovery continued to show signs of stalling, with the labor market failing to add new jobs in August for the first time since September 2010.

President Erkel caved again. Whoodathunk that after resting up in a woefully tacky cave of affluence, Obama would come out refreshed, energized, and perfectly willing to be Boehner's biatch?

[epicSocialism4tw]

Originally Posted by Smiling Assassin27

President Erkel caved again. Whoodathunk that after resting up in a woefully tacky cave of affluence, Obama would come out refreshed, energized, and perfectly willing to be Boehner's biatch?

Ouch.

[TonyR]

I suggest quoting your source. Unless you're the source, in which case I'd suggest just not posting...

[epicSocialism4tw]

Originally Posted by TonyR

I suggest quoting your source. Unless you're the source, in which case I'd suggest just not posting...

You can always copy/paste his quote and google it.

[Rigs11]

The righties changing their tune on screaming for bipartannship.interesting.

[Smiling Assassin27]

And the hits just keep on coming. Boehner's in pwnage mode:

Republicans have decided they're not going to give a rebuttal to President Obama's jobs speech later this week, a decision House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi took as a high affront to the White House.

Say what you will about Boehner, he's put on a clinic on owning the Executive Branch over the last two weeks. In essence, he's said that Obama's masturbatory jobs speech is insignificant, irrelevant, and not even worthy of a response--and he's right. Now Pelosi's manic and doing her pretend indignance act for all to see.

Kinda sad when the grand poobah of congressional impotence still manages to make our President look, well, impotent.

[Requiem]

Boehner's wet dream would be that Ohio would become relevant to America again. Too bad that state died 150 years ago.

[TonyR]

Yes, jobs and the economy aren't important.

[TonyR]

Two things to point out here with respect to the Taibbi article excerpted below. First, progressives don't blindly follow Obama. There are disaffected progressives out there. Second, it's funny that so many righties call Obama a "liberal" considering the bolded part. Stop getting you reality entirely from Fox News and right wing radio and see the truth that's right there in front of you.


Listening to Obama talk about jobs and shared prosperity yesterday reminded me that we are back in campaign mode and Barack Obama has started doing again what he does best – play the part of a progressive. He's good at it. It sounds like he has a natural affinity for union workers and ordinary people when he makes these speeches. But his policies are crafted by representatives of corporate/financial America, who happen to entirely make up his inner circle. I just don't believe this guy anymore, and it's become almost painful to listen to him.

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics...ymore-20110906

[cutthemdown]

Obamas jobs bill is mostly just some biz tax cuts and some billions to fund unemployment for another yr or so. Yeah he's a real mastermind of jobs. ALso Boehnes plan to make the President identify all the big ticket changes in regulations that cost over 1 billion was a great political move, and a great move for jobs. This is how repubs create jobs even though liberals trying to say they haven't done anything.

Getting Obama to scrap the EPA ozone changes was so huge. It's the single biggest victory for the new repub majority in the house. They did that while the liberals still have 2/3 of the power. Great great work by the new speaker.

Now he should probably soon give Obama some sort of little victory, nothing too big, but it would be best for the country IMO. Show Obama that when you play ball we will give you a treat as a reward. More then likely though the repubs will be too stupid, to focused on Obama losing the upcoming election, and blow it. The parties, both sides, never go all out for what is best for the country. I don't think they always are like that, but enough to make gridlock and animosity always present. Still Obama showed he will cave to ideas that are the right ones to make. That really doesn't make him weak, it makes him smart. Really, IMO, this decision on the EPA shows Obama has gotten a tad smarter. This is one of his best decisions yet.

Funny the left is all pissed, that is a good thing, it means Obama not stupid enough to always do what they want.

[cutthemdown]

Let Obama do some sort of a jobs bill, but maybe not 300 billion. So Obama wins a tad, but not enough to make the repubs look like the support more govt spending.

Plus unemployment actually does get spent into the economy, by people who were working at some point, so I can deal with that some.

[cutthemdown]

Originally Posted by TonyR

Two things to point out here with respect to the Taibbi article excerpted below. First, progressives don't blindly follow Obama. There are disaffected progressives out there. Second, it's funny that so many righties call Obama a "liberal" considering the bolded part. Stop getting you reality entirely from Fox News and right wing radio and see the truth that's right there in front of you.


Listening to Obama talk about jobs and shared prosperity yesterday reminded me that we are back in campaign mode and Barack Obama has started doing again what he does best – play the part of a progressive. He's good at it. It sounds like he has a natural affinity for union workers and ordinary people when he makes these speeches. But his policies are crafted by representatives of corporate/financial America, who happen to entirely make up his inner circle. I just don't believe this guy anymore, and it's become almost painful to listen to him.

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics...ymore-20110906

Here is what makes it bad for Obama. He is a liberal, he is a progressive, his big dreams for the country are radically left..........but. Obama's core beliefs are easily abandoned because he lacks character. In the end being President is what he wants most. He will play ball against his core beliefs. But cmon he is a liberal, just not a good one with core beliefs he sticks to.

[Mr.Meanie]

Originally Posted by cutthemdown

Here is what makes it bad for Obama. He is a liberal, he is a progressive, his big dreams for the country are radically left..........but. Obama's core beliefs are easily abandoned because he lacks character. In the end being President is what he wants most. He will play ball against his core beliefs. But cmon he is a liberal, just not a good one with core beliefs he sticks to.

Not really. He's quite centrist, almost every one of his policy decisions have angered both the far left and far right during his entire presidency.

He skewed left because he wanted to be the anti-Bush in the '08 race, but he veered right back into centrism immediately after being elected. Even his biggest signature accomplishment, health care reform, was dead in the center of the health care debate.

Just because you want to believe Obama is some wild-eyed liberal radical doesn't make it fact.

[cutthemdown]

Originally Posted by Mr.Meanie

Not really. He's quite centrist, almost every one of his policy decisions have angered both the far left and far right during his entire presidency.

He skewed left because he wanted to be the anti-Bush in the '08 race, but he veered right back into centrism immediately after being elected. Even his biggest signature accomplishment, health care reform, was dead in the center of the health care debate.

Just because you want to believe Obama is some wild-eyed liberal radical doesn't make it fact.

You are mistaking what he caved to for what he really wanted. He wanted a single payer system but couldn't get it. it's not that he is a centrist, its that there is enough right wing left in the govt, at the state level, to fight him. That is what pulls him to the center. Not his core beliefs.

[Mr.Meanie]

Originally Posted by cutthemdown

You are mistaking what he caved to for what he really wanted. He wanted a single payer system but couldn't get it. it's not that he is a centrist, its that there is enough right wing left in the govt, at the state level, to fight him. That is what pulls him to the center. Not his core beliefs.

I can't speak to what his deepest inner dreams and desires are, only to what his politics are. I actually think he sensed a massive move to the right by the country, and (cynically) aligned his policies to more reflect that shift and keep his views relevant.

But either way, you can't keep calling someone some crazy far out liberal when every single one of his policies say exactly the opposite. Rick Perry for example, who campaigned for Al Gore in late 80's, has moved to the extreme evangelical right. Would you suggest he was a secret moderate or even liberal? Or would you look at his actual politics and call it what it is?

[DarkHorse30]

Originally Posted by TonyR

Two things to point out here with respect to the Taibbi article excerpted below. First, progressives don't blindly follow Obama. There are disaffected progressives out there. Second, it's funny that so many righties call Obama a "liberal" considering the bolded part. Stop getting you reality entirely from Fox News and right wing radio and see the truth that's right there in front of you.


Listening to Obama talk about jobs and shared prosperity yesterday reminded me that we are back in campaign mode and Barack Obama has started doing again what he does best – play the part of a progressive. He's good at it. It sounds like he has a natural affinity for union workers and ordinary people when he makes these speeches. But his policies are crafted by representatives of corporate/financial America, who happen to entirely make up his inner circle. I just don't believe this guy anymore, and it's become almost painful to listen to him.

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics...ymore-20110906

Wow - quoting "Rolling Stone"? Am I supposed to roll a blunt before reading?

A word to the wise, "hope" and "change" works only ONE time. He can dress up the pig that he rode into the white house, but it will likely have to "look" like a different animal than he started with. He should take lessons from the bluedog dems of '06 - talk like a conservative, get elected and then do whatever you want.

[epicSocialism4tw]

Originally Posted by Mr.Meanie

I can't speak to what his deepest inner dreams and desires are, only to what his politics are. I actually think he sensed a massive move to the right by the country, and (cynically) aligned his policies to more reflect that shift and keep his views relevant.

But either way, you can't keep calling someone some crazy far out liberal when every single one of his policies say exactly the opposite. Rick Perry for example, who campaigned for Al Gore in late 80's, has moved to the extreme evangelical right. Would you suggest he was a secret moderate or even liberal? Or would you look at his actual politics and call it what it is?

He's no more an "extreme evangelical" than Pelosi is an "extreme Catholic".

You guys are hilarious with your fear of religion.

[epicSocialism4tw]

Originally Posted by Mr.Meanie

Not really. He's quite centrist, almost every one of his policy decisions have angered both the far left and far right during his entire presidency.

He skewed left because he wanted to be the anti-Bush in the '08 race, but he veered right back into centrism immediately after being elected. Even his biggest signature accomplishment, health care reform, was dead in the center of the health care debate.

Just because you want to believe Obama is some wild-eyed liberal radical doesn't make it fact.

Obama is a centrist?

That's probably the most comical thing I have ever heard.

You guys really need to crawl out of your liberal bunkers and take a look at what the country actually looks like.

It would also help if you guys had a remedial understanding of politics. Its a bargaining game. You never survive with pure partisanship. Doesn't happen.

[Mr.Meanie]

Originally Posted by epicSocialism4tw

Obama is a centrist?

That's probably the most comical thing I have ever heard.

You guys really need to crawl out of your liberal bunkers and take a look at what the country actually looks like.

It would also help if you guys had a remedial understanding of politics. Its a bargaining game. You never survive with pure partisanship. Doesn't happen.

Your world view is so skewed that anything to the left of Saddam you view as extreme liberalism. I think I'll go ahead and disregard your opinion on political viewpoints.

[Mr.Meanie]

Originally Posted by epicSocialism4tw

He's no more an "extreme evangelical" than Pelosi is an "extreme Catholic".

You guys are hilarious with your fear of religion.

We already discussed this. Perry ran for governor on a platform of opposing the legalization of sodomy in his state, and supports a constitutional amendment outlawing gay sex. He holds prayer rallies and supports teaching creationism in public schools.

How do you get more extreme evangelical than that?

[Arkie]

Maybe Obama just can't do whatever he wants as President. Only three Senators were more left in the 109th Congress, and only two in the 110th. He was getting worse. lol

[Requiem]

Originally Posted by Arkie

Maybe Obama just can't do whatever he wants as President.

Obviously.

[DenverBrit]

It's far more important to score points for the 'party' than work together and fix the economy.

Both sides are doing nothing more than posturing for the next election.

[epicSocialism4tw]

Originally Posted by Mr.Meanie

Your world view is so skewed that anything to the left of Saddam you view as extreme liberalism. I think I'll go ahead and disregard your opinion on political viewpoints.

No, the problem is that 92% of everyone in the mainstream media identifies themselves as a liberal while ~ 20 % of the country identifies themselves as liberal.

So you guys literally have no idea what the majority of people in the country think. You being a prime example having made the utterly ridiculous statement that "Obama is a centrist", which is about the biggest pile of steaming crap anyone has ever dropped anywhere on the planet.

[Spider]

Originally Posted by DenverBrit

It's far more important to score points for the 'party' than work together and fix the economy.

Both sides are doing nothing more than posturing for the next election.

yep