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View Poll Results: Who is the worst QB in the AFC West?
Jason Campbell 120 68.97%
Matt Cassel 43 24.71%
Kyle Orton 11 6.32%
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Old 08-28-2011, 01:57 PM   #1
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Is it Kyle Orton, Jason Campbell or Matt Cassel?

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Old 08-28-2011, 02:29 PM   #2
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Old 08-28-2011, 02:44 PM   #3
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Campbell and its not even close.
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1.) Phillip Rivers



















2-4.) Everybody else. As much as it's a pissing contest between rival fans, Orton and Cassel are pretty much at the same level. Cassel is more mobile, but Orton is more accurate. Campbell is the worst though.
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Old 08-28-2011, 03:11 PM   #5
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We know the three idiots to vote Kyle orton are raider fans
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We know the three idiots to vote Kyle orton are raider fans
Not a Orton fan sorry. Definately not a Fader fan
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Old 08-28-2011, 03:20 PM   #7
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We know the three idiots to vote Kyle orton are raider fans
Yea sure Montrose is a Raiders fan... You know that guy who gives us camp reports from Broncos camp.

Try harder please.
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1-Rivers
2-Cassel
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Old 08-28-2011, 03:42 PM   #9
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1-Rivers
2-Cassel
3-Orton
4-Campbell
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1 - Rivers
2 - Orton
3 - Campbell
4 - Cassel

But razorwire is right, 2-4 doesn't have all that much difference at all.
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IMO

1 - Rivers
2 - Orton
3 - Campbell
4 - Cassel

But razorwire is right, 2-4 doesn't have all that much difference at all.
You're drunk if you think Campbell is better than anyone. You're drunk if you would take Orton over Cassell.
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Old 08-28-2011, 03:51 PM   #11
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It goes like this:

Campbell< Cassel<<<< Orton<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Rivers
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Old 08-28-2011, 04:00 PM   #12
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Campbell< Cassel<<<< Orton<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Rivers
Rivers>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Cassell>>>Orton>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Campbell.
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Rivers>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Cassell>>>Orton>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Campbell.
Those extra carrots make your argument extremely convincing.

Is there a reason you think Cassel is significantly superior to Orton? Their career stats are certainly wouldn't indicate that they're three orders of magnitude apart either way.
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this thread shows how lame people are around here. If there was any objectivity in the voting it would be just as close as their career statistics. Not 1 person who voted for Jason Campbell can point out any single area that Orton is better than Campbell. Every statistic that counts... Campbell is better! The Heblows fans complained that Orton doesn't make something out of nothing... Well Campbell is a better scrambler than orton. Heblows fans complained that Orton sucks on 3rd down... Campbell is statistically better on 3rd down conversions. Campbell is better in the RedZone, has a lower int percentage, is more mobile... etc.

From worst to first it goes like this

4. Matt Cassell
3. Kyle Orton
2. Jason Campbell
1. Phillip Rivers

And it is statistically proven pull the stats for yourselves!
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You're drunk if you would take Orton over Cassell.
I understand that Cassel has the 28:7 TD/INT ratio last year, the 11-win season in New England and the 2010 AFC West title to his credit. You can make a strong argument in his favor based on that.

But, he has never impressed me in action. He doesn't look the part at all. Take away the run and he can't complete **** over 10 yards. He is a dink-and-dunker with no balls.

I think his 2009 performance is indicative of who he is and I think this year he will revert back to that form.

It won't be long before the Ricky Stanzi era will be taking over in K.C.
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Campbell
oh and Kyle is better than Matt, his accuracy is far superior
and they both struggle when people get pressure on them
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this thread shows how lame people are around here. If there was any objectivity in the voting it would be just as close as their career statistics. Not 1 person who voted for Jason Campbell can point out any single area that Orton is better than Campbell. Every statistic that counts... Campbell is better! The Heblows fans complained that Orton doesn't make something out of nothing... Well Campbell is a better scrambler than orton. Heblows fans complained that Orton sucks on 3rd down... Campbell is statistically better on 3rd down conversions. Campbell is better in the RedZone, has a lower int percentage, is more mobile... etc.

From worst to first it goes like this

4. Matt Cassell
3. Kyle Orton
2. Jason Campbell
1. Phillip Rivers

And it is statistically proven pull the stats for yourselves!
How would you rate these numbers?
27 wins to 37 losses
32 wins to 30 losses
24 wins to 20 losses
55 wins to 25 losses
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How would you rate these numbers?
27 wins to 37 losses
32 wins to 30 losses
24 wins to 20 losses
55 wins to 25 losses
I would rank them as wins and losses. There are 53 players on a team on Sunday. The wins and losses don't boil down to 1 person. It's a team effort. However, if you want to say who's the best it's only 1 stat to be considered! If you want to weight each area wins and losses are only 1 53rd of the entire equation. So, take a look at QB ratings and tell me who's the best!
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I would rank them as wins and losses. There are 53 players on a team on Sunday. The wins and losses don't boil down to 1 person. It's a team effort. However, if you want to say who's the best it's only 1 stat to be considered! If you want to weight each area wins and losses are only 1 53rd of the entire equation. So, take a look at QB ratings and tell me who's the best!
I took a look at Orton's last year rating vs was better then Campbell's so I guess he is better then him. In fact every year Orton has been in the AFC west his has been better then Campbell's.
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We know the three idiots to vote Kyle orton are raider fans
Hey now.... sometimes its better to just not vote in a poll....
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I voted for Orton out of pure spite, it absolutly boggles my mind the Broncos are making the 2011 season a nice resume-tape for the Miami Dolphins 2012 opening day QB.

Well, I suppose it doesn't boggle my mind - just frusturates me they're so terrified of having another "bad season"... as if 8-8 means ****.
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I went with cassel, just wait till the season starts you'll see why.
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I took a look at Orton's last year rating vs was better then Campbell's so I guess he is better then him. In fact every year Orton has been in the AFC west his has been better then Campbell's.
when you say someone is better in sports you cannot make a decision based on 1 season. The only way to be fair is to look at entire careers. Campbell is statistically better and has the same intangibles that you Heblows worshipers rambled on and on about like a bunch of cult followers.

BTW... Campbell is Undefeated in the AFC West statistically. That is definitely better than Orton. Statistically He was better than Orton in the NFC. you're grasping at straws.

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when you say someone is better in sports you cannot make a decision based on 1 season. The only way to be fair is to look at entire careers. Campbell is statistically better and has the same intangibles that you Heblows worshipers rambled on and on about like a bunch of cult followers.
Campbell has statistically had better run games and defenses to help him out. When Campbell faces a season long average of 3rd and 8 on 3rd downs and has a run game that gets 1 or 2 yards a down consistenly, and he can put up better numbers than Orton did last year, then you can call me and tell me I told you so. Until then, Campbell is just another piece of Raider trash that senile old **** Al Davis has.
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Campbell has statistically had better run games and defenses to help him out. When Campbell faces a season long average of 3rd and 8 on 3rd downs and has a run game that gets 1 or 2 yards a down consistenly, and he can put up better numbers than Orton did last year, then you can call me and tell me I told you so. Until then, Campbell is just another piece of Raider trash that senile old **** Al Davis has.
Ok blame that on your GM's Don't make excuses for your ****ty QB play. I'm not saying Campbell is the greatest QB. I'm saying he's better than Orton Statistically and for the Heblowites... He has the make something out of nothing intangibles that Orton lacks!

I understand you donk fans don't have any ground to stand on when you say Orton is better... It's pure hate. It's ok we all know Campbell is a notch better!
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