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Old 08-25-2011, 09:50 AM   #1
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Leave it to Woody to bring back some sanity to the Tebow debate. Tebow's biggest critics are a bunch of losers who only wish they had half of his talent and determination when they played. Boomer and Hodge are morons.

Best stat in the article about Orton: "Orton has lost eight of nine, 14 of 17 and 17 of his past 22 starts." Nuff said.

I honestly believe the whole Tebow thing is personal. Not by the Broncos organization, not by Fox or Elway because I believe he's not going anywhere and eventually he’ll start but by the media and some fans. They hate him because he's openly Christian and because he's made some money selling jerseys and commercials. The Lib sports media and some Boulder, CO Libs who are so called Broncos fans hate him for these 2 reasons alone.

The Broncos win a meaningless preseason game against the Bills one of the worst teams in all of football and suddenly Orton is a solid starter? COME ON!!! I can’t wait to see these haters eat their words by mid-season when Tebow is starting and Orton is sitting on the bench sulking because the Broncos are 2-6.
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OR...

what if Tim really is, for the moment, the 3rd best qb on the team? what if he's not ready and legitimately could use another season holding a clipboard, assimilating the playbook, and sharpening his footwork? see, these possibilities really ARE possible, and based on what fox/elway have said and done, are probable.

the media fueled critics may or may not have an axe to grind based on ideology, et al, and most certainly SOME do. but part of the media wrongly believes tim is ready now and that he 'is just a winner', as if using that argument proves their point that he should be out there in a new system. the key is going to be tebow himself. if he can put the hatchet jobs of guys like boomer and hodge out of his head and simply do what he's doing--working hard, studying, and getting better--then he'll be better for it. i'm sure he's chomping at the bit but he's also not the kind of guy that feels entitled to the starting qb slot if he doesn't deserve it.

hang in timmy, time is your friend, not your enemy.
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Politics, religion AND Tebow in one thread? Winning!
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what if Tim really is, for the moment, the 3rd best qb on the team? what if he's not ready and legitimately could use another season holding a clipboard, assimilating the playbook, and sharpening his footwork? see, these possibilities really ARE possible, and based on what fox/elway have said and done, are probable.

the media fueled critics may or may not have an axe to grind based on ideology, et al, and most certainly SOME do. but part of the media wrongly believes tim is ready now and that he 'is just a winner', as if using that argument proves their point that he should be out there in a new system. the key is going to be tebow himself. if he can put the hatchet jobs of guys like boomer and hodge out of his head and simply do what he's doing--working hard, studying, and getting better--then he'll be better for it. i'm sure he's chomping at the bit but he's also not the kind of guy that feels entitled to the starting qb slot if he doesn't deserve it.

hang in timmy, time is your friend, not your enemy.
Tebow may not be ready I agree but the criticism has been so disproportionate itís unbelievable. Some Broncos fans donít know nor give a damn whether heís ready or not they want to publicly destroy and humiliate him period.
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Never has a more ridiculous statement been uttered.
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Tebow may not be ready I agree but the criticism has been so disproportionate itís unbelievable. Some Broncos fans donít know nor give a damn whether heís ready or not they want THEY WANT HIM TO BE STARTING QB him period.
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Tebow may not be ready I agree but the criticism has been so disproportionate itís unbelievable. Some Broncos fans donít know nor give a damn whether heís ready or not they want to publicly destroy and humiliate him period.
yeah, i hear ya. that's why i said that a lot of this will hinge on how tim handles it all. tim's also got a legion (pun intended) of devoted fanatics who will soften the blow, but the bottom line is whether he can play well at this level or not. nothing will change until we find this out.
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Woody was also calling for Simms to be the starter in 2008 before Orton got injured, we saw how that ended.

This has more to do with creating controversy and generating internet traffic than actual analysis.
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yeah, i hear ya. that's why i said that a lot of this will hinge on how tim handles it all. tim's also got a legion (pun intended) of devoted fanatics who will soften the blow, but the bottom line is whether he can play well at this level or not. nothing will change until we find this out.
I'm just afraid the ground swell is to get rid of him, that would be one the biggest mistake the Broncos may ever make. One day Tebow is going to be a great QB and I just hope it's with the Broncos.
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Woody was also calling for Simms to be the starter in 2008 before Orton got injured, we saw how that ended.

This has more to do with creating controversy and generating internet traffic than actual analysis.
Woody may be wrong about who should be the QB, but he's got one thing right then and now. Orton sucks.
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I don't get it. Everybody knew Tebow was going to be a project with huge upside if he panned out from before the draft. Now in his second (lockout shortened) year he is suposed to be the starter and it's some kind of Bronco's conspiracy that he isn't. Geez
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Leave it to Woody to bring back some sanity to the Tebow debate. Tebow's biggest critics are a bunch of losers who only wish they had half of his talent and determination when they played. Boomer and Hodge are morons.

Best stat in the article about Orton: "Orton has lost eight of nine, 14 of 17 and 17 of his past 22 starts." Nuff said.

I honestly believe the whole Tebow thing is personal. Not by the Broncos organization, not by Fox or Elway because I believe he's not going anywhere and eventually heíll start but by the media and some fans. They hate him because he's openly Christian and because he's made some money selling jerseys and commercials. The Lib sports media and some Boulder, CO Libs who are so called Broncos fans hate him for these 2 reasons alone.

The Broncos win a meaningless preseason game against the Bills one of the worst teams in all of football and suddenly Orton is a solid starter? COME ON!!! I canít wait to see these haters eat their words by mid-season when Tebow is starting and Orton is sitting on the bench sulking because the Broncos are 2-6.
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I'm just afraid the ground swell is to get rid of him, that would be one the biggest mistake the Broncos may ever make. One day Tebow is going to be a great QB and I just hope it's with the Broncos.
You should look around. If anything, the "groundswell" is for him to be the starter, and if he's not the starter, then the team is going to cut him and OH MY GOD I CAN'T TAKE IT IF TIM ISN'T THE STARTER AND ITS ONLY BECAUSE OF HIS RELIGION!!!!!

He can be effective, and perhaps MORE effective, coming off the bench in short yardage and goal line situations. You know, the ways he can help the team win RIGHT NOW. How's that a bad thing?
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I don't get it. Everybody knew Tebow was going to be a project with huge upside if he panned out from before the draft. Now in his second (lockout shortened) year he is suposed to be the starter and it's some kind of Bronco's conspiracy that he isn't. Geez
Mike Golic had a good point this morning. He said that expectations for Tebow really ought to be about where you, baja, have them. The problem was that McD really screwed him by moving up to the first round to take him, thereby ratcheting those expectations WAY up immediately. First rounders are expected to do something now, third rounders (where tebow was projected in some mocks) are not necessarily.
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I don't get it. Everybody knew Tebow was going to be a project with huge upside if he panned out from before the draft. Now in his second (lockout shortened) year he is suposed to be the starter and it's some kind of Bronco's conspiracy that he isn't. Geez
Probably because when he was just thrown into the game as a rookie, he outplayed Orton. I'd rather not have to go through that again.
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You should look around. If anything, the "groundswell" is for him to be the starter, and if he's not the starter, then the team is going to cut him and OH MY GOD I CAN'T TAKE IT IF TIM ISN'T THE STARTER AND ITS ONLY BECAUSE OF HIS RELIGION!!!!!

He can be effective, and perhaps MORE effective, coming off the bench in short yardage and goal line situations. You know, the ways he can help the team win RIGHT NOW. How's that a bad thing?
it's not a bad thing. Tebow said yesterday he is happy to help the team in whatever way they need him. The problem with it is that the team has to get into the redzone first. that requires picking up third downs and not sacking oneself at the sight of a defender.
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Here's what I see.

Orton will most likley get injured some point. He has zero pocket presence and a history of not being able to complete 16 games.

The offense will start out fast as team adjust to what they are running

After 4 games, DCs will force Orton to make plays in the red zone. He will fail just like the other years. Games will be closer and the spotlight will firmly be shown on Orton. No more running game or defense excuses. Both units will be more than adequate that will be what Fox

Tebow will get to play

If I'm wrong then we should be able to compete for the division
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it's not a bad thing. Tebow said yesterday he is happy to help the team in whatever way they need him. The problem with it is that the team has to get into the redzone first. that requires picking up third downs and not sacking oneself at the sight of a defender.
Seems like we have been getting to the red zone for years. The problem has been capitalizing on those opportunities. And this goes back to the Shanahan/Cutler years.

So if Tebow doesn't mind sacrificing a little time for the good of the team, will his followers do likewise?
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Tebow outplayed Orton by a lot last season. This is a fact. It is sad to see that the QB problem in Carolina is going to folliw Fox here. What can you do? Some coaches don't like good QB play. It is just sad to see that we got rid of a guy who didn't believe the film and replaced him with a guy that doesn't believe what the film is showing them. Hopefully his defensive knowledge makes up for it.
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