Democrat judge Rules Obamacare Unconstitutional

[Taco John]

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0811/61218.html

The 11th Circuit Court of Appeals on Friday ruled that the health care reform law’s requirement that nearly all Americans buy insurance is unconstitutional, a striking blow to the legislation that increases the odds the Supreme Court will choose to review the law.

[Spider]

then so long obamacare , i wonder y they didnt do this with car insurance

[ant1999e]

Originally Posted by Spider

then so long obamacare , i wonder y they didnt do this with car insurance

U don't have to have a car thus don't have to have car insurance but as long as you are alive, you would be forced to have health insurance.

[peacepipe]

the ruled the mandate portion of the HCR unconstitutional but that the rest of it was fine.

[ant1999e]

Originally Posted by peacepipe

the ruled the mandate portion of the HCR unconstitutional but that the rest of it was fine.

And the mandate was pretty much the foundation of Obama care.

[Arkie]

Originally Posted by Spider

then so long obamacare , i wonder y they didnt do this with car insurance

If you choose the priviledge to operate one, then you have to get the insurance that covers the hazard to society, but you don't have to get the full coverage that protects yourself (like health insurance)

[Popcorn Sutton]

Originally Posted by Arkie

If you choose the priviledge to operate one, then you have to get the insurance that covers the hazard to society, but you don't have to get the full coverage that protects yourself (like health insurance)

Agreed. You cannot draw the parallel with car insurance.

[Tombstone RJ]

bwahahaha!!

Hey president, why don't you break up the health insurance cartel and allow insurance companies to provide coverage across state lines?

This one simple step will drop the price of health insurance significantly. Why doesn't the president do this? WHY?

Seriously, you have to wonder what the hell is going on in the District of Corruption.

[DenverBrit]

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

bwahahaha!!

Hey president, why don't you break up the health insurance cartel and allow insurance companies to provide coverage across state lines?

This one simple step will drop the price of health insurance significantly. Why doesn't the president do this? WHY?

Seriously, you have to wonder what the hell is going on in the District of Corruption.

It seems that both parties agree that interstate would be the way to go, but as usual, can't agree 'how.'

Let Health Insurance Cross State Lines, Some Say

As Republicans and Democrats claim to be searching for common ground in the health care debate, one idea that lawmakers on both sides seem to agree on is that health insurance should be sold across state lines.

Republicans like Representative John Shadegg of Arizona have long called for this change, saying it would increase competition among health insurers and provide consumers with a greater array of choices.

The Democrats’ health care bills, adopted late last year by the House and Senate, each contain provisions aimed at a similar goal. The bills allow states to form “compacts” among themselves by which insurance policies issued in one could be sold in the others.

But Republicans and Democrats fiercely disagree over how to go about allowing such sales, and some independent health care experts warn that the idea may be more appealing in theory than in practice, and that it might even raise rather than lower costs.

more......http://prescriptions.blogs.nytimes.c...ines-some-say/

[Tombstone RJ]

Originally Posted by DenverBrit

It seems that both parties agree that interstate would be the way to go, but as usual, can't agree 'how.'

Let Health Insurance Cross State Lines, Some Say



more......http://prescriptions.blogs.nytimes.c...ines-some-say/

This is where "leadership" from the Whitehouse comes into play. This is why Obama fails.

Instead of telling the GOP and Dems to "make it work" so that insurance can cross state lines, he lets the health insurance cartel write Obamacare.

Complete joke. Complete fail.

[DenverBrit]

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

This is where "leadership" from the Whitehouse comes into play. This is why Obama fails.

Instead of telling the GOP and Dems to "make it work" so that insurance can cross state lines, he lets the health insurance cartel write Obamacare.

Complete joke. Complete fail.

No disagreement here. Whatever it takes to bring down the inflated costs.

[Play2win]

Originally Posted by BrewCrew

Agreed. You cannot draw the parallel with car insurance.

There are many places where ownership of a automobile and living is as close to necessity as there is.

[Meck77]

Good. Obama is sinking quickly. The sooner he leaves the sooner we can start cleaning up the damage. Obama has pulled a McD on America. It's going to take some time to heal.

[ant1999e]

Originally Posted by Play2Win

There are many places where ownership of a automobile and living is as close to necessity as there is.

Nice try.

[Taco John]

Originally Posted by Meck77

Good. Obama is sinking quickly. The sooner he leaves the sooner we can start cleaning up the damage. Obama has pulled a McD on America. It's going to take some time to heal.

[mhgaffney]

Originally Posted by Meck77

Good. Obama is sinking quickly. The sooner he leaves the sooner we can start cleaning up the damage. Obama has pulled a McD on America. It's going to take some time to heal.

You are kidding, right?

As long as Wall Street rules this country -- there will be no cleaning up the damage -- only more of the same.

Boggles the mind that some of you think a Republican administration will fix what ails this country. Ain't gonna happen.

[mhgaffney]

Taco, you are dreaming.

I went to a Tea Party rally last year. The speakers had been flown in a commuter jet -- probably paid for by thew Koch bros.

I talked with some of the organizers. They were a very naive bunch -- and in my opinion did not understand that they were being used.

There was no awareness that Wall Street was/is the enemy.

Things will get worse.

[W*GS]

Who runs Wall Street, gaffe?

Jews, right?

[Meck77]

Originally Posted by mhgaffney

You are kidding, right?

As long as Wall Street rules this country -- there will be no cleaning up the damage -- only more of the same.

Boggles the mind that some of you think a Republican administration will fix what ails this country. Ain't gonna happen.

Boggles my mind that you think what you say in here will do a damn bit of difference in the real world.

My boy Ron is making some waves. Even has Newt talking about auditing the fed now. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76LFw...ature=youtu.be

Right around the 13:30 mark.

[Rigs11]

Hey teabagger bachmann won the straw polls.you voting for crazy Taco?

[Arkie]

Originally Posted by Meck77

Boggles my mind that you think what you say in here will do a damn bit of difference in the real world.

My boy Ron is making some waves. Even has Newt talking about auditing the fed now. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76LFw...ature=youtu.be

Right around the 13:30 mark.

Paul brought up something completely ignored by all the other politicians arguing over the debt--the trillions we owe the Fed (but they won't let us audit them)

He said, “We owe the Fed $1.6 trillion in treasury bills. Where’d they get the money to buy it? They create it out of thin air. So we pay them interest. Now that’s on our books. So we literally, with legislation, could wipe $1.6 trillion off. That’s not a solution to the monetary problem or our spending problems, but it would give you a year to work this out and we wouldn’t have had any of that debate going on. Those were all scare tactics to try to scare people.”

[Tombstone RJ]

Originally Posted by Arkie

Paul brought up something completely ignored by all the other politicians arguing over the debt--the trillions we owe the Fed (but they won't let us audit them)

He said, “We owe the Fed $1.6 trillion in treasury bills. Where’d they get the money to buy it? They create it out of thin air. So we pay them interest. Now that’s on our books. So we literally, with legislation, could wipe $1.6 trillion off. That’s not a solution to the monetary problem or our spending problems, but it would give you a year to work this out and we wouldn’t have had any of that debate going on. Those were all scare tactics to try to scare people.”

Ron Paul, pointing out the corruption of the fed gov and being ignored... the presidency needs Paul. period.

[Popcorn Sutton]

Originally Posted by Play2Win

There are many places where ownership of a automobile and living is as close to necessity as there is.

...and you only need insurance to cover what happens to others in the event of an accident. If you choose, you can get liability only and leave yourself essentially uninsured.

[Meck77]

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

Ron Paul, pointing out the corruption of the fed gov and being ignored... the presidency needs Paul. period.

It's mind blowing isn't. The guy is in the trenches every damn day virtually fighting on his own while every other congressman and women continue to hide the truth from the American people. Obama included.

More and more people are becoming aware.

http://victorystore00.stores.yahoo.n...pa18pr0si.html

I just ordered $900 worth of signs today. That's 300 signs that myself and other volunteers will be putting up periodically. I encourage other supporters to do the same. I'm making a big ass contribution to his campaign also.

I personally owe ron a favor and am returning it.

[W*GS]

Originally Posted by Meck77

I just ordered $900 worth of signs today. That's 300 signs that myself and other volunteers will be putting up periodically. I encourage other supporters to do the same. I'm making a big ass contribution to his campaign also.

You're wasting your money.