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Old 07-28-2011, 01:39 PM   #1
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Default Denver Post: Kyle Orton vastly outperforming Tim Tebow in camp

Sorry if it's a repost.

http://www.denverpost.com/sports/ci_18568906

Is this fluff for trade stock, or is it for real? It's only the first day of practice.

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Old 07-28-2011, 01:41 PM   #2
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So when Orton inevitably has a bad practice and Tebow has a good one are we going to have a full article on it?
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Old 07-28-2011, 01:41 PM   #3
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Yes. The Broncos PR office has been saying this stuff since the final whistle of last season. I love it but I'm not banking it.
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Old 07-28-2011, 01:42 PM   #4
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Kyle's always been great in practice. It's 3rd downs and 4th quarters that he struggles with.
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Old 07-28-2011, 01:42 PM   #5
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Smoke screen.
They're trying to uphold his value as much as they can.
Having Tebow take snaps with the first unit, sends the wrong message and we'd lose leverage, especially when the Broncos are rumored to be asking a 2nd for Orton...
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So when Orton inevitably has a bad practice and Tebow has a good one are we going to have a full article on it?
except a certain crowd here will say it was only one practice...even though they won't say that today

let the better man win, it's our D that concerns me....we don't get on the DT train soon, it won't matter who our QB is
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Old 07-28-2011, 01:43 PM   #7
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Yea Orton's great in practice , it's when there is actual tacklers around him is when he seems to have issues.
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This is less surprising than the sun coming up this morning. Bodes well for trade negotiations.
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Old 07-28-2011, 01:44 PM   #9
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Sorry if it's a repost.

http://www.denverpost.com/sports/ci_18568906

Is this fluff for trade stock, or is it for real? It's only the first day of practice.
Orton is fine when the game is not on the line. He is good between the 40's but that is it.

He folds under pressure, he can't escape a defender in fact I heard the other teams were practicing making scary faces in the mirror so they could just scare him into a sack. I think they have a bet going.

Plain and simple, he is not a leader. He is a game manager and the broncos are not that team. Never have been until stupid Mcdushbag came here. I want the old Broncos back. You know the ones that were always in the game no matter how bad it got. The ones were people were afraid of coming to our house. Smash mouth football is what we need and Orton is not that.

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Old 07-28-2011, 01:46 PM   #10
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except a certain crowd here will say it was only one practice...even though they won't say that today

let the better man win, it's our D that concerns me....we don't get on the DT train soon, it won't matter who our QB is
Exactly! enough with signing scrubs get us some studs on the D line
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Practice, we talkin about practice Seriously though, Kyle Orton is an exceptional practice player and a decent game day player (yes, he is a decent QB and with the proper running game and D he can be a winning QB). Tebow is probably never going to be a practice machine because it is a controlled setting and doesn't let him show his intangibles.

I would prefer to see Tebow start because I want to see more of what he has as I already know what Orton has.
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Old 07-28-2011, 01:52 PM   #12
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We all know that Orton is a accurate passer when nobody is rushing him. The second someone penetrates the line he folds like a lawn chair. I'll ride with Tebow, he's a gamer.
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Old 07-28-2011, 01:52 PM   #13
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So basically there have been no 3rd / 4th downs, no redzone situations, and no need to scramble. Yay.
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i heard the practice was 80% running the ball and 20% passing
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Meh, it's just the first day of practice, who cares? Thanks to the DP for "Kolbing" him though
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He always looks good in practice.
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i heard the practice was 80% running the ball and 20% passing
this ^ they were talking about what a joke some of the hype was they actually said that the best passer out there was Quinn
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Orton is fine when the game is not on the line. He is good between the 40's but that is it.
"in his 2 years in Denver he has thrown 30 touchdowns to 1 interception in the red zone and has a passer rating over 90."

and for all the 3rd down crap he takes:

"Tebow's passing stats were actually worse on both 3rd down and in the red zone in the 3 games he started (though 3 games is admittedly not much to go on)."

http://neighbors.denverpost.com/view...&sd=a&start=40
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How many of these great stats have come with the game on the line or "close and late" as they say in baseball?

Not many!

Take your fantasy football hats off, people!
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Practice, we talkin about practice Seriously though, Kyle Orton is an exceptional practice player and a decent game day player (yes, he is a decent QB and with the proper running game and D he can be a winning QB). Tebow is probably never going to be a practice machine because it is a controlled setting and doesn't let him show his intangibles.

I would prefer to see Tebow start because I want to see more of what he has as I already know what Orton has.
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"in his 2 years in Denver he has thrown 30 touchdowns to 1 interception in the red zone and has a passer rating over 90."

and for all the 3rd down crap he takes:

"Tebow's passing stats were actually worse on both 3rd down and in the red zone in the 3 games he started (though 3 games is admittedly not much to go on)."

http://neighbors.denverpost.com/view...&sd=a&start=40
It's all about perception, dude. People perceive Tebow as an Elway type and automatically assume he was better then Orton. They don't look at the stats. As of right now, it sound like Orton is a better QB.
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Old 07-28-2011, 02:07 PM   #22
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Wait are they sure it was Brady Quinn that said this?

Quinn also had the first day's best line. Asked if there was any tension between Orton and Tebow, Quinn said: "Look, if you're going to ask questions about football, ask questions about football. I'm not here to talk about anyone's relationship status. Save that for Twitter or Facebook or some message board."

Because that statement was completely non-gay.
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Old 07-28-2011, 02:08 PM   #23
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Since there is no touching a QB in practice, Orton shines. It's his total lack of athletic ability and 6 second 40 that make him crumble under pressure...
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Watching NFL network right now... Michelle Beisner just interviewed Orton:

"I'm here to compete for the starting job, and I like my chances if they let me" - Kyle Orton
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"in his 2 years in Denver he has thrown 30 touchdowns to 1 interception in the red zone and has a passer rating over 90."

and for all the 3rd down crap he takes:

"Tebow's passing stats were actually worse on both 3rd down and in the red zone in the 3 games he started (though 3 games is admittedly not much to go on)."

http://neighbors.denverpost.com/view...&sd=a&start=40
what about red zone efficiency? We already know he doesn't make mistakes in the red zone but he also doesn't do enough to get the TD either. Hence the reason for our ppg the past 2 seasons he's been our starting QB
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