Players Dropped the Ball Big Time. - The Orange Mane

rugbythug · 07-21-2011, 05:35 PM

Players Dropped the Ball Big Time.

The owners gave them every opportunity to Ratify a Deal. Instead they made excuses and stupid power plays. By waiting and letting the owners ratify a deal first the owners are now the good guys trying to save football. Even if the deal they ratified is slanted fans don't care-a bad deal is still a deal. And really the money is settled now we are just picking nits. Pick up the pieces and get it done tonight.

Inkana7 · 07-21-2011, 05:41 PM

They couldn't ratify a deal yesterday because the owners didn't send the full paperwork until late in the afternoon. You talk about power plays? This is a power play by the owners.

Man-Goblin · 07-21-2011, 05:42 PM

It was pretty silly not to ratify with their own conditions last night. Now their ****ed.

rugbythug · 07-21-2011, 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inkana7

They couldn't ratify a deal yesterday because the owners didn't send the full paperwork until late in the afternoon. You talk about power plays? This is a power play by the owners.

Bull- It is a cooperative agreement they are both writing it together.

Face it they mistimed their leap. They wanted to counter and not submit, by waiting to long they cant counter but rather reject and lose public opinion. If they made the owners reject they would have been better off. Passing something noon today would have been best.

DivineBronco · 07-21-2011, 05:45 PM

I guess the nice thing now is the court of public opinion swings firmly away from the players
and the public ire can be much more focused

Inkana7 · 07-21-2011, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by rugbythug

Bull- It is a cooperative agreement they are both writing it together.

Heh. The agreement that the Voters just voted for was their agreement, with changes made by them without knowledge of the players. That's why the players are pissed.

rugbythug · 07-21-2011, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Inkana7

Heh. The agreement that the Voters just voted for was their agreement, with changes made by them without knowledge of the players. That's why the players are pissed.

The changes are on things they have not gotten agreement on. Pretty much how this works. However as an owner better to work off of your draft than the other way around.

CBF1 · 07-21-2011, 05:48 PM

Players have been ass clowns since they decertified... The sense of entitlement is beyond my comprehension.

I might have turned off my listening switch, but why in the world has DeMaurice Smith been involved with the talks/negotiation a second after decertification happened... If there is no union, why is the same union leader involved in anything

schaaf · 07-21-2011, 05:49 PM

**** you NFLPA

tnedator · 07-21-2011, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by CBF1

Players have been ass clowns since they decertified... The sense of entitlement is beyond my comprehension.

I might have turned off my listening switch, but why in the world has DeMaurice Smith been involved with the talks/negotiation a second after decertification happened... If there is no union, why is the same union leader involved in anything

Because decertification was a sham and negotiating ploy.

wolf754life · 07-21-2011, 06:02 PM

Owners 1, players 0, and everyday this goes on the owners will gain another point, the players will lose another.

players need to know that the fans will lose interest shortly..............vincent jackson? logan mankins? the owners dropped the restricted and transition tags.......... the franchise tag is still in play, why? so we don't get carmelo'ed and lebron'ed like the nba making franchises irrelevant.

the players need to sack up and take this deal, the longer they wait the less they will get.

TheReverend · 07-21-2011, 06:03 PM

DeMaurice is the biggest bag of **** this side of France.

DivineBronco · 07-21-2011, 06:05 PM

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...g-arrangement/

yuck

TheReverend · 07-21-2011, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DivineBronco

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...g-arrangement/

yuck

See prior post:

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheReverend

DeMaurice is the biggest bag of **** this side of France.

Mediator12 · 07-21-2011, 06:16 PM

This is why the Whole Decertification and Players reps idea of "negotiating" falls short. You sent colonels to make Generals decisions. Now, the rank and file is surprised about what was ACTUALLY negotiated. Even the smartest players are getting taken by Smith and the whole NFLPA lawyer contingent.

Stupid, stupid players

WolfpackGuy · 07-21-2011, 06:16 PM

So they've gone from a lockout to a strike?

Pitiful!

BroncoLifer · 07-21-2011, 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tnedator

Because decertification was a sham and negotiating ploy.

And (rightly) recognized as such by the 8th Circuit in their decision back on July 5th.

tsiguy96 · 07-21-2011, 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CBF1

Players have been ass clowns since they decertified... The sense of entitlement is beyond my comprehension.

I might have turned off my listening switch, but why in the world has DeMaurice Smith been involved with the talks/negotiation a second after decertification happened... If there is no union, why is the same union leader involved in anything

you should read what some of them are saying.

vonnie holliday:
@therealholliday: The truth of the matter is we got tricked, duped, led astray, hoodwinked, bamboozled!

yea, i HATE getting offered a minimum of several hundred thousand dollars to play a game part time. hate it.

StugotsIII · 07-21-2011, 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inkana7

They couldn't ratify a deal yesterday because the owners didn't send the full paperwork until late in the afternoon. You talk about power plays? This is a power play by the owners.

I'm sorry, but did the players need to be to bed by a certain time?

They could have put the work in...

StugotsIII · 07-21-2011, 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tsiguy96

you should read what some of them are saying.

vonnie holliday:
@therealholliday: The truth of the matter is we got tricked, duped, led astray, hoodwinked, bamboozled!

yea, i HATE getting offered a minimum of several hundred thousand dollars to play a game part time. hate it.

Who is Vonnie Holliday....Malcom X?

StugotsIII · 07-21-2011, 07:01 PM

Owners just put the players into a bad spot...

If the players get their panties in a twist and drag this out further....they will lose the fan support and this could get ugly.

long beach bronco · 07-21-2011, 07:04 PM

De Smith needs to fired, plain and simple. This makes no sense. He was shaking hands this morning saying that he hopes that the owners ratify and we can get on with football. What a freakin bum.

StugotsIII · 07-21-2011, 07:05 PM

It's unreal to me to think that they couldn't have this put to bed months ago...

long beach bronco · 07-21-2011, 07:13 PM

Everyone knew the owners were voting today, we did, how come the De Smith and the players are shocked. What a bunch of idiots. Don't they all know the terms of the deal? They were all waiting for this.

Dedhed · 07-21-2011, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by StugotsIII

If the players get their panties in a twist and drag this out further....they will lose the fan support and this could get ugly.

Too late.

07-21-2011, 05:35 PM	#1
rugbythug Church Eyes. Salty Dog Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 3,822 Adopt-a-Bronco: Mr. Miller	Players Dropped the Ball Big Time. Players Dropped the Ball Big Time. The owners gave them every opportunity to Ratify a Deal. Instead they made excuses and stupid power plays. By waiting and letting the owners ratify a deal first the owners are now the good guys trying to save football. Even if the deal they ratified is slanted fans don't care-a bad deal is still a deal. And really the money is settled now we are just picking nits. Pick up the pieces and get it done tonight.

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07-21-2011, 05:41 PM	#2
Inkana7 Ring of Famer Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 8,232 Adopt-a-Bronco: Derek Wolfe	They couldn't ratify a deal yesterday because the owners didn't send the full paperwork until late in the afternoon. You talk about power plays? This is a power play by the owners.

07-21-2011, 05:42 PM	#3
Man-Goblin Giving You The Business Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Huntersville, NC Posts: 5,601 Adopt-a-Bronco: Woodyard	It was pretty silly not to ratify with their own conditions last night. Now their ****ed.

07-21-2011, 05:45 PM	#5
DivineBronco Ring of Famer if you like Cutler you are my enemy Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,051	I guess the nice thing now is the court of public opinion swings firmly away from the players and the public ire can be much more focused

07-21-2011, 05:48 PM	#8
CBF1 Ring of Famer No avatar is the new avatar Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: SoCal Posts: 14,943 Adopt-a-Bronco: Jack Del rio	Players have been ass clowns since they decertified... The sense of entitlement is beyond my comprehension. I might have turned off my listening switch, but why in the world has DeMaurice Smith been involved with the talks/negotiation a second after decertification happened... If there is no union, why is the same union leader involved in anything

07-21-2011, 05:49 PM	#9
schaaf Bossing at its Finest No salary cap in the dope game Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Montana Posts: 1,968 Adopt-a-Bronco: Nate Irving	**** you NFLPA

07-21-2011, 06:02 PM	#11
wolf754life Bleed Orange and Blue more scoring + more tackling = $$$ Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,777	Owners 1, players 0, and everyday this goes on the owners will gain another point, the players will lose another. players need to know that the fans will lose interest shortly..............vincent jackson? logan mankins? the owners dropped the restricted and transition tags.......... the franchise tag is still in play, why? so we don't get carmelo'ed and lebron'ed like the nba making franchises irrelevant. the players need to sack up and take this deal, the longer they wait the less they will get.

07-21-2011, 06:03 PM	#12
TheReverend www.PatrickTurley.org ^ "not an athlete" Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 33,348 Adopt-a-Bronco: Mike Shanahan	DeMaurice is the biggest bag of **** this side of France.

07-21-2011, 06:05 PM	#13
DivineBronco Ring of Famer if you like Cutler you are my enemy Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,051	http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...g-arrangement/ yuck

07-21-2011, 06:16 PM	#15
Mediator12 OM analyst REAL Front Seven Bandwagon !!! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: INDY Posts: 9,703 Adopt-a-Bronco: Malik Jackson	This is why the Whole Decertification and Players reps idea of "negotiating" falls short. You sent colonels to make Generals decisions. Now, the rank and file is surprised about what was ACTUALLY negotiated. Even the smartest players are getting taken by Smith and the whole NFLPA lawyer contingent. Stupid, stupid players

07-21-2011, 06:16 PM	#16
WolfpackGuy Call me, "Maybe" Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Delaware Posts: 5,694	So they've gone from a lockout to a strike? Pitiful!

07-21-2011, 07:01 PM	#21
StugotsIII O-H Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,281 Adopt-a-Bronco: Rahim Moore	Owners just put the players into a bad spot... If the players get their panties in a twist and drag this out further....they will lose the fan support and this could get ugly.

07-21-2011, 07:04 PM	#22
long beach bronco Registered User "I'm your Huckleberry" Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Long Beach Posts: 1,017 Adopt-a-Bronco: Peyton Manning	De Smith needs to fired, plain and simple. This makes no sense. He was shaking hands this morning saying that he hopes that the owners ratify and we can get on with football. What a freakin bum.

07-21-2011, 07:05 PM	#23
StugotsIII O-H Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,281 Adopt-a-Bronco: Rahim Moore	It's unreal to me to think that they couldn't have this put to bed months ago...

07-21-2011, 07:13 PM	#24
long beach bronco Registered User "I'm your Huckleberry" Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Long Beach Posts: 1,017 Adopt-a-Bronco: Peyton Manning	Everyone knew the owners were voting today, we did, how come the De Smith and the players are shocked. What a bunch of idiots. Don't they all know the terms of the deal? They were all waiting for this.