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Old 07-15-2011, 12:06 AM   #1
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Default Broncos had the 6th lowest payroll in the NFL last season; in good shape for this season?

...according to ProFootballtalk.com. So if the cap comes in at 120 mill plus benefits, we should be in a golden position to make a move for a bigtime player (if we so choose), right? Who knows, but here are the numbers from last season:


Redskins: $178.2 million.

Cowboys: $166.5 million.

Saints: $145.0 million.

Vikings: $143.4 million.

Seahawks: $138.8 million.

Jets: $135.7 million.

Packers: $135.3 million.

Raiders: $135.2 million.

Colts: $133.1 million.

Bears: $131.9 million.

Eagles: $131.0 million.

Patriots: $128.8 million.

Giants: $128.6 million.

49ers: $125.9 million.

Dolphins: $123.8 million.

Texans: $123.1 million.

Lions: $122.9 million.

Steelers: $122.9 million.

Browns: $122.8 million.

Ravens: $122.3 million.

Falcons: $118.5 million.

Titans: $118.0 million.

Panthers: $110.9 million.

Rams: $109.1 million.

Chargers: $108.0 million.

Bills: $105.3 million.

Broncos: $102.9 million.

Bengals: $100.8 million.

Cardinals: $97.8 million.

Jaguars: $89.5 million.

Chiefs: $84.5 million.

Buccaneers: $80.8 million.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...-a-salary-cap/

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Old 07-15-2011, 12:10 AM   #2
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how much dead money is counting against us with the DL debacles of McDaniels. Bannan was signed for like 4 more years. Green was signed for 5 and never played a down, Williams was signed for 2 or 3.

i don't think the team has a lot of spendable income under the cap.
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oooh, but check this out: 2011 projected cap numbers espn

As you all know, there’s a lot of uncertainty about the labor situation for 2011. These numbers don’t include what restricted free agents, exclusive-rights free agents or franchise players would count toward the cap because we don’t know that -- and won’t until there is a labor agreement in place. And, although we know there will be a 2011 draft no matter what, these numbers don’t include rookie salaries. The numbers below are only for players currently under contract for the 2011 season.

Also, we won’t know what the 2011 salary cap for all teams will be until there’s a deal in place. For reference, the salary cap in 2009, the last capped year was right about $130 million.
  • Arizona $83 million
  • Atlanta $102.1 million
  • Baltimore $101.3 million
  • Buffalo $96.4 million
  • Carolina $73 million
  • Chicago $104.9 million
  • Cincinnati $90.7 million
  • Cleveland $99.2 million
  • Dallas $136.6 million
  • Denver $125 million
  • Detroit $113.8 million
  • Green Bay $129.8 million
  • Houston $118.4 million
  • Indianapolis $115.5 million
  • Jacksonville $78.1 million
  • Kansas City $74.7 million
  • Miami $103.1 million
  • Minnesota $108.4 million
  • New England $102.3 million
  • New Orleans $105.2 million
  • New York Giants $126.3 million
  • New York Jets $128.5 million
  • Oakland $85.8 million
  • Philadelphia $80.8 million
  • Pittsburgh $116 million
  • San Diego $85.8 million
  • San Francisco $100.9 million
  • Seattle $81.1 million
  • St. Louis $102.4 million
  • Tampa Bay $59.7 million
  • Tennessee $107.4 million
  • Washington $115.2 million
http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/po...ry-cap-figures
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oooh, but check this out: 2011 projected cap numbers espn

As you all know, there’s a lot of uncertainty about the labor situation for 2011. These numbers don’t include what restricted free agents, exclusive-rights free agents or franchise players would count toward the cap because we don’t know that -- and won’t until there is a labor agreement in place. And, although we know there will be a 2011 draft no matter what, these numbers don’t include rookie salaries. The numbers below are only for players currently under contract for the 2011 season.

Also, we won’t know what the 2011 salary cap for all teams will be until there’s a deal in place. For reference, the salary cap in 2009, the last capped year was right about $130 million.
  • Arizona $83 million
  • Atlanta $102.1 million
  • Baltimore $101.3 million
  • Buffalo $96.4 million
  • Carolina $73 million
  • Chicago $104.9 million
  • Cincinnati $90.7 million
  • Cleveland $99.2 million
  • Dallas $136.6 million
  • Denver $125 million
  • Detroit $113.8 million
  • Green Bay $129.8 million
  • Houston $118.4 million
  • Indianapolis $115.5 million
  • Jacksonville $78.1 million
  • Kansas City $74.7 million
  • Miami $103.1 million
  • Minnesota $108.4 million
  • New England $102.3 million
  • New Orleans $105.2 million
  • New York Giants $126.3 million
  • New York Jets $128.5 million
  • Oakland $85.8 million
  • Philadelphia $80.8 million
  • Pittsburgh $116 million
  • San Diego $85.8 million
  • San Francisco $100.9 million
  • Seattle $81.1 million
  • St. Louis $102.4 million
  • Tampa Bay $59.7 million
  • Tennessee $107.4 million
  • Washington $115.2 million
http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/po...ry-cap-figures
on average the salary cap over the last 4 years with a cap had gone up 7 million every year. now if that holds true and the 128 million cap figure from 2009 is the jump off point for the new cap in 2011 then we can expect a cap of about 135 million, but if the cap is upped with the idea that 7 million a year increase annually happens automatically we can expect a cap of about 142 million. I would bet more than likely the cap will be at about 138 million, meaning according to this chart we will be roughly 13 million below the cap, with rookies, UDFA, RFA, and FA still to sign. i think we can be looking at quite a few guys getting their deals reworked or some vets getting dumped.
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Old 07-15-2011, 02:35 AM   #5
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how much dead money is counting against us with the DL debacles of McDaniels. Bannan was signed for like 4 more years. Green was signed for 5 and never played a down, Williams was signed for 2 or 3.
i don't think the team has a lot of spendable income under the cap.
Using accurate 2010 Payroll figures from Forbes.com http://www.forbes.com/lists/2010/30/...ys_300988.html and the previously mentioned 2011 expected cap http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/po...ry-cap-figures, you can roughly calculate (Bonus-Dead Weight). ie: Denver may be paying $50mil in bonuses, but have $33mil in dead weight for a total of $17mil.

Car: $73(2011Cap) + $75(Bonus-DeadWeight) = $148(2010Payroll)
Oak: $85.8 + $70.2 = $156
SD: $85.8 + $64.2 = $150
AZ: $83 + $63 = $146
Mia: $103.1 + $60.9 = $164
Phi: $80.8 + $60.2 = $141
TB: $59.7 + $58.3 = $118
Jax: $78.1 + $54.9 = $133

Buf: $96.4 + $45.6 = $142
NO: $105.2 + $44.8 = $150
Sea: $81.1 + $43.9 = $125
NYG: $126.3 + $39.7 = $166
Chi: $104.9 + $39.1 = $144
Bal: $101.3 + $36.7 = $138
KC: $74.7 + $36.3 = $111
SF: $100.9 + $35.1 = $136
Ten: $107.4 + $34.6 = $142
STL: $102.4 + $32.6 = $135
Atl: $102.1 + $31.9 = $134
Hou: $118.4 + $31.6 = $150
Min: $108.4 + $31.6 = $140
NYJ: $128.5 + $31.5 = $160
Cin: $90.7 + $31.3 = $122
NE: $102.3 + $30.7 = $133
Pit: $116 + $30 = $146

Ind: $115.5 + $26.5 = $142
Cle: $99.2 + $25.8 = $125
Det: $113.8 + $25.2 = $139
GB: $129.8 + $17.2 = $147
Den: $125 + $17 = $142
Was: $115.2 + $10.8 = $126
Dal: $136.6 + $6.4 = $143

Note: Green teams would be below 85% of proposed Cap, and Red over proposed Payroll.
Den, GB, NYJ, NYG and Dal are over proposed Cap.

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I'm not sure any of these numbers are accurate. Payroll and cap are two different things and the ESPN number was produced before Champ's new deal.

I think unloading Orton's $8M is nearly as important as getting the draft pick. I'd be surprised if Denver bids on a big-time player.
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Cap is actual dollars spent now. There is no dead money.
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I'm surprised SoCal isn't in here looking for a way to blame this all on Bowlen.
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Is there a list of the breakdown of individual Broncos players salaries?
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Is it just me, or is every free agent going to sign with the Eagles this off-season?!?

Of all the games I saw last year, the FUTURE team of the NFC looks like the Tampa Bay Bucs, they have so much young talent it's ridiculous - including their coach!
I've noticed their payroll (in this thread also), and I can't see how FA players are looking straight past them to go to Philly?!
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Is it just me, or is every I've noticed their payroll (in this thread also), and I can't see how FA players are looking straight past them to go to Philly?!
It's all about the bottom line. Since Gruden was canned, the Bucs have been smart with their money.
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I'm not sure any of these numbers are accurate. Payroll and cap are two different things and the ESPN number was produced before Champ's new deal.

I think unloading Orton's $8M is nearly as important as getting the draft pick. I'd be surprised if Denver bids on a big-time player.
It was also before the Broncos cleared over $20m of cap room by cutting Graham, Bannan and Williams.

There was no cap at the time those players were cut so there is no dead money. There wont be any until a new CBA is finalised with a new cap, so obviously if Orton is traded any outstanding signing bonus will hit the 2011 cap number.
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