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Old 06-30-2011, 09:38 AM   #1
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Can someone explain to me the following about college football.

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1. Their season is so short, 3-4 months of competitive games.

2. They only play a max of 11-12 games per year

3. They have no pre-season games

Last time I checked some of these coaches get paid a bomb to coach these kids for 12 games a year and the TV companies pay a fortune for some of the TV rights, why the hell is their season so short
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Old 06-30-2011, 09:43 AM   #2
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Can someone explain to me the following about college football.

Why

1. Their season is so short, 3-4 months of competitive games.

2. They only play a max of 11-12 games per year

3. They have no pre-season games

Last time I checked some of these coaches get paid a bomb to coach these kids for 12 games a year and the TV companies pay a fortune for some of the TV rights, why the hell is their season so short
1) I would assume it is because they are supposed to be "student" athletes...

2) I think 1 and 2 are kind of intertwined

3) they sort of do have pre-season games....when Texas opens up against Southeastern Dakota it gets treated like a pre-season game...unless you are Michigan
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No playoffs. Which is retarded. Unless you root fora 1-AA squad like my Montana Grizzlies. Then you get playoffs, a true national champion, without the BCS bull****.

And yeah, they're "student" athletes. That's why the season's so short.
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Can someone explain to me the following about college football.

Why

1. Their season is so short, 3-4 months of competitive games.

2. They only play a max of 11-12 games per year

3. They have no pre-season games

Last time I checked some of these coaches get paid a bomb to coach these kids for 12 games a year and the TV companies pay a fortune for some of the TV rights, why the hell is their season so short


It's dictated by the NCAA....remember....these kids are all in school. It's one of the arguments "they" use against a playoff...
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It's dictated by the NCAA....remember....these kids are all in school. It's one of the arguments "they" use against a playoff...
they only argue against a playoff for major college football. divisions 1-AA, II, III all have playoffs, as do college baseball, basketball, tennis... the list goes on.
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It amuses me the people think that FBS owes them a playoff system. It's not your choice and really none-of-your-business. It also amuses me that the Federal Government wants to be involved.
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It amuses me the people think that FBS owes them a playoff system. It's not your choice and really none-of-your-business. It also amuses me that the Federal Government wants to be involved.
I don't think it's owed. I think it would be better for everyone, including students, fans, the NCAA itself, college athletics, the networks, et al.

I'm with you on the government getting involved. Pretty dumb.
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It amuses me the people think that FBS owes them a playoff system. It's not your choice and really none-of-your-business. It also amuses me that the Federal Government wants to be involved.
I don't think anyone is saying FBS owes us a playoff.


I would say it would be nice to have more meaningful NCAA football games in the post season, rather than just one.


I don't know about you, but I'd rather have MORE football instead of less.
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It amuses me the people think that FBS owes them a playoff system. It's not your choice and really none-of-your-business. It also amuses me that the Federal Government wants to be involved.
You always got to be different. The NCAA excuses are horrible when other divisions have it and the revenue is way less than Division 1 schools. It is OUR OPINION regardless of our business or choice.
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I don't think anyone is saying FBS owes us a playoff.


I would say it would be nice to have more meaningful NCAA football games in the post season, rather than just one.


I don't know about you, but I'd rather have MORE football instead of less.
I would argue that each college game n FBS is an elimination game for the championship.
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You always got to be different. The NCAA excuses are horrible when other divisions have it and the revenue is way less than Division 1 schools. It is OUR OPINION regardless of our business or choice.
Why is it required? Why does FBS need a playoff. Keep in mind this is out of the control of the NCAA and completely up to the colleges themselves.
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I would argue that each college game n FBS is an elimination game for the championship.
Then what is your answer when 3 teams finish the season undefeated? A plus one?
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I would argue that each college game n FBS is an elimination game for the championship.
I was going to make a similar point. Football is so popular BECAUSE the season is so short. There are a lot of meaningful games, due to the fact that they don't have a lot of time to position themselves for a major bowl. I contrast that to the NBA, NHL and MLB. The casual fan will only pay attention to those sports when it gets close to playoff time. There is no urgency to win an NBA game in November...
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I would argue that each college game n FBS is an elimination game for the championship.
Except that it's not. You case in point works for us. For every 2 loss Florida that wins it, there's an undefeated Utah left out because of "voters." It's garbage.
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Then what is your answer when 3 teams finish the season undefeated? A plus one?
We pick the best two teams and have them play because not all schedules are equal.
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Except that it's not. You case in point works for us. For every 2 loss Florida that wins it, there's an undefeated Utah left out because of "voters." It's garbage.
All I can say to that is when the BCS first came up the "subjective votes" accounted for 25 percent of the score. The statisical analysis accounted for 75 percent. Now it's flipped.
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All I can say to that is when the BCS first came up the "subjective votes" accounted for 25 percent of the score. The statisical analysis accounted for 75 percent. Now it's flipped.
Again, this is why it's garbage. It will change again, too. The writers pretend they don't like it, but they secretly love the ideas that they're the ones who get to crown the champions. The coaches poll is better, but they don't have time to watch every freaking team.

A simple playoff system of the top 4-6 teams would not be hard to do.
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Again, this is why it's garbage. It will change again, too. The writers pretend they don't like it, but they secretly love the ideas that they're the ones who get to crown the champions. The coaches poll is better, but they don't have time to watch every freaking team.

A simple playoff system of the top 4-6 teams would not be hard to do.
Its better today than it ever was. To me, there never actually is a National Champion in FBS...or really NCAA BB either. The BCS is better than just the writers crowning a championship...and they don't anymore. At least it's coaches and the Harris poll (WTF?!?!) and the actual math based on some level of objective criteria that determine the best two teams out of 100 plus teams and at least it's actually settled on a field.
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I would argue that each college game n FBS is an elimination game for the championship.
It's not...
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I'm more irritated, personally, by student athletes that can't read or talk like a grown adult than I am about the playoff system. I like college football (now that Michigan has a team again, particularly) but would rather they just do away with it if they can't fix it.
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Its better today than it ever was. To me, there never actually is a National Champion in FBS...or really NCAA BB either. The BCS is better than just the writers crowning a championship...and they don't anymore. At least it's coaches and the Harris poll (WTF?!?!) and the actual math based on some level of objective criteria that determine the best two teams out of 100 plus teams and at least it's actually settled on a field.
How is there no national champion in basketball? At the beginning of the year every single team has a chance to win the title. Whoever is left standing in the end is your champion and rightfully so.

You can't claim that college football is ever "settled on the field" because it's not.

In football that's just not true, even when the lower conference team (utah) is the best team in the nation in a given season.
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How is there no national champion in basketball? At the beginning of the year every single team has a chance to win the title. Whoever is left standing in the end is your champion and rightfully so.

You can't claim that college football is ever "settled on the field" because it's not.

In football that's just not true, even when the lower conference team (utah) is the best team in the nation in a given season.
The Champion is based on a one and done. I guess a more accurrate statement is the best team doesn't always win the NC in NCAA BB. Now if they did 2 of 3...that would be more indicative of a true champ.

It's all about context. Before the News Papers would pick one regardless. Today at least two teams are choosen on some measure of objective criteria and a game is played and the winner of that game is the NC.
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The Champion is based on a one and done. I guess a more accurrate statement is the best team doesn't always win the NC in NCAA BB. Now if they did 2 of 3...that would be more indicative of a true champ.

It's all about context. Before the News Papers would pick one regardless. Today at least two teams are choosen on some measure of objective criteria and a game is played and the winner of that game is the NC.
Objective criteria = $$$

If you're not in a big money conference, you don't get to play the title game. Period.
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Objective criteria = $$$

If you're not in a big money conference, you don't get to play the title game. Period.
Shocking that a Hokie fan would be a proponent of such a system, isn't it?
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This is why

1. Coaches and players need time to break NCAA rules
2. Coaches need a month to announce they did not know what a player did
3. Coaches need another month to admit they knew and write a weak a** apology nobody believes
4. Coaches need a month finally resign, redo resume to bail before school gets nailed with sanctions

So NCAA can't have longer seasons
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