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Old 06-29-2011, 08:42 PM   #1
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"John Lennon was a closet Republican, who felt a little embarrassed by his former radicalism, at the time of his death - according to the tragic Beatles star's last personal assistant.

Fred Seaman worked alongside the music legend from 1979 to Lennon's death at the end of 1980 and he reveals the star was a Ronald Reagan fan who enjoyed arguing with left-wing radicals who reminded him of his former self.

"John, basically, made it very clear that if he were an American he would vote for Reagan because he was really sour on (Democrat) Jimmy Carter.

"He did express support for Reagan, which shocked me."

"I also saw John embark in some really brutal arguments with my uncle, who's an old-time communist... He enjoyed really provoking my uncle... Maybe he was being provocative... but it was pretty obvious to me he had moved away from his earlier radicalism."

"He was a very different person back in 1979 and 80 than he'd been when he wrote Imagine. By 1979 he looked back on that guy and was embarrassed by that guy's naivete."

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I guess John moved along the path that most people do. Liberal while young and naive and conservative as the wisdom and family concerns set in.

Whats the old saying? "If you arent somewhat liberal when you're young then you don't have a heart, if you're not conservative when you grow older then you don't have a brain."

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Old 06-29-2011, 08:44 PM   #2
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While that does surprise me, I have to question posting this on the main forum...

I miss the foozeball.


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Old 06-29-2011, 08:46 PM   #3
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While that does surprise me, I have to question posting this on the main forum...

I miss the foozeball.


For people like me who spent a chunk of their life absorbing every note that emanated from Lennon and McCartney, this is huge news.

"Imagine" is basically the progressive liberal anthem. Its big news that Lennon himself thought it naive.

I miss the foozball too. If Tebow were negotiating for us, we'd have never had a lockout. World Peace wouldn't just be Ron Artest's new last name, either. We'd call the Earth the "Tim Tebow planet Earth"
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Old 06-29-2011, 08:51 PM   #4
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Old 06-29-2011, 08:53 PM   #5
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Old 06-29-2011, 08:56 PM   #6
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Another good example is Jon Voight.
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"John Lennon was a closet Republican, who felt a little embarrassed by his former radicalism, at the time of his death - according to the tragic Beatles star's last personal assistant.

Fred Seaman worked alongside the music legend from 1979 to Lennon's death at the end of 1980 and he reveals the star was a Ronald Reagan fan who enjoyed arguing with left-wing radicals who reminded him of his former self.

"John, basically, made it very clear that if he were an American he would vote for Reagan because he was really sour on (Democrat) Jimmy Carter.

"He did express support for Reagan, which shocked me."

"I also saw John embark in some really brutal arguments with my uncle, who's an old-time communist... He enjoyed really provoking my uncle... Maybe he was being provocative... but it was pretty obvious to me he had moved away from his earlier radicalism."

"He was a very different person back in 1979 and 80 than he'd been when he wrote Imagine. By 1979 he looked back on that guy and was embarrassed by that guy's naivete."

http://www.torontosun.com/2011/06/28...ican-assistant

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I guess John moved along the path that most people do. Liberal while young and naive and conservative as the wisdom and family concerns set in.

Whats the old saying? "If you arent somewhat liberal when you're young then you don't have a heart, if you're not conservative when you grow older then you don't have a brain."
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Now we know what the song was about..... Imagine there's no liberals.... Living for today....

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Old 06-29-2011, 09:28 PM   #10
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You've undoubtedly heard the old Lord Acton quote, "power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely." Apparently, it doesn't really matter how that power is derived, and Internet trolls are drunk with it -- "it" being the power of anonymity. According to a study by the Northwestern University, anonymity affects the judgment of people similarly to alcohol intoxication and excessive power.
"Although these pathways appear to be unrelated on the surface, they all lead to disinhibited states through a common psychological and neurological mechanism," said Jacob Hirsh of the university's Kellogg School of Management. Dr. Hirsh's colleague, Professor Adam Galinsky, said the loss of inhibition causes "significant behavioral consequences" -- though, that's not necessarily good or bad in itself.
When a person is operating behind a mask such as the Internet, they're more likely to make decisions that align with their true motives or character -- be that heroism or hedonism. "This is why intoxicated individuals can be aggressive in one instant and altruistic in another," said Hirsh, and it could help explain why people tend to express such extreme views when they get behind a keyboard.
People often feel there are no repercussions for their actions online because they're not visually confronted with another person. Dr. Darryl Cross, a psychologist at Crossways Consulting, believes the anonymity of the Internet encourages split personalities. He noted that people have two personas: one driven by raw animal instinct, and another that's more conservative. The former kicks in online.
"What you've got [online] is people who are prepared to let their instinctual personality out rather than really taking a second perspective, looking at it in a different way, and then saying the second thing that comes into their mind instead of the first." Naturally, this occurs more frequently when you have an open system like ours that encourages "guest" posters, versus strictly registered commenters.
"Anything that requires personal responsibility has got to be a plus," Cross said. "Once they have to register and they're held accountable, then that's really going to be a major step forward." Worried that you're a troll? Cross suggests that you establish a method to determine the demeanor of your comment. For instance, consider what your grandparents might say about your post before submitting it.
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Oh jeez...the llama really needs to go the **** away already

I always like posting this: http://www.newsweek.com/2010/07/09/w...really-do.html

And Nixon? He'd be a communist by today's right wing standards

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Now we know what the song was about..... Imagine there's no liberals.... Living for today....
Pakistan is nice this time of year. Barely a liberal there.
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Let the man's shade rest in peace.
He will always be remembered as an activist and freethinker.
Politics aren't morals.
Politics is gang warfare round these here parts.
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Your saying is incorrectly attributed to Winston Churchill by many right wingers. Winston Churchill's assistant said that Churchill was a conservative at 15 and a liberal by the time he was 35. So which Brit did more for the world?
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Thanks - I needed a good laugh.

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Whats the old saying? "If you arent somewhat liberal when you're young then you don't have a heart, if you're not conservative when you grow older then you don't have a brain."
I believe this quote is more apropos:

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Old 06-29-2011, 10:44 PM   #16
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Oh jeez...the llama really needs to go the **** away already

I always like posting this: http://www.newsweek.com/2010/07/09/w...really-do.html

And Nixon? He'd be a communist by today's right wing standards
Exactly.

That the Bush Youth are oblivious to this fact only underscores their complete lack of historical perspective.
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Old 06-29-2011, 10:46 PM   #17
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Your saying is incorrectly attributed to Winston Churchill by many right wingers. Winston Churchill's assistant said that Churchill was a conservative at 15 and a liberal by the time he was 35. So which Brit did more for the world?
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Who the **** is John Lennon?
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He's the guy who invented the air conditioner.
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He's the guy who invented the air conditioner.
Nononoo... that's Lennox. He's the guy who starred in the odd couple opposite Walter Matthau.
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Nononoo... that's Lennox. He's the guy who starred in the odd couple opposite Walter Matthau.
But I thought Lennox (Annie) was the singer who performed "Into the West" for the third Lord of the Rings movie....
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But I thought Lennox (Annie) was the singer who performed "Into the West" for the third Lord of the Rings movie....
Like everyone else in Hollywood, Annie is not a Republican....but Lennox (Lewis) was a Lord of the Ring.
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