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Old 05-13-2012, 01:47 PM   #326
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We tried that. Didn't seem to work.
You kidding the learned how the guns when in hands of violent drug smugglers usually end up killing law enforcement or innocent civilians. You can't get intelligence like that from the internet ya know? We should thank our justice dept for being so vigilant.

Or Holder is a ****ing criminal, lied to Congress, and should resign or go to prison.

Which one sounds more logical?

Hell Ollie North started it so maybe republicans only have themselves to blame. Not the dems fault they were learning from the masters.
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Once again the problem is in specific cities NOT country wide. A horrendous problem in Ciudad Juarez is not a problem in Los Cabos no matter how horrendous the problem may be.
49 of your fellow Mexicans just had their heads, hands, and feet cut off and this "Is not a problem" for our gringo in Cabo.

In other words "I live in a resort town bubble and screw the peasants and poor people in the rest of my country".

Baja has become numb to the murders. Dude you are flat out delusional if you cannot admit that there is a major problem brewing for your country right now.

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US State Department Recognizes Safety of La Paz and South Baja
For the First Time, New Travel Notices for Mexico Specifically Separate La Paz and Other Regions, Confirming It as One of the Safest Cities in North America

LA PAZ, Baja California Sur, Mexico, March 13, 2012 /PRNewswire via COMTEX/ -- In a significant move that recognizes the safety of La Paz and Baja California Sur, the U.S. State Department's latest 2012 travel update states no security concerns for the region. For the first time, the regular update includes "no advisory" in effect for La Paz and the entire South Baja region. The move reaffirms the reputation of La Paz as the city of peace and abundance on the Sea of Cortez, and one of the safest places in the world to live in and visit.

"We applaud the U.S. State Department for recognizing what every visitor to La Paz experiences here: That it is a beautiful, peaceful city, and - along with the entire South Baja region - it is an entirely secure and rewarding place for vacations, for owning a second home, or for retirement," said Agustin Olachea, President of La Paz Tourism Board, and spokesperson for the La Paz Developers Tourism Council. "Travelers can feel confident coming here, knowing that the peace that one quietly encounters in La Paz extends directly from the abundant ocean life and cultural richness that sets La Paz apart from any place on the planet."

The report marks the first time that the State Department has broken down its Mexico travel update into specific populated areas and regions. According to an unnamed State Department source, the "granularized" report was compiled at the request of American business groups interested in employee security. It was not done to appease various boosters of Mexican tourism. Previous to this report, the US State Department's Bureau of Consular Affairs issued travel warnings to larger, more general areas for Americans visiting Mexico. The result was confusion, with some tourists curtailing plans for visiting Mexico in spite of huge areas of the country unaffected by recent drug-related violence.

The safety of Baja Sur in particular was also underscored by the presence of U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and other international leaders at last month's G20 Foreign Ministers Summit in Los Cabos.

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The areas in Mexico that aren't smuggling routes I'm sure are fine. Just like America very safe unless you go to a bad neighborhood. Who cares though BAJA, we sure don't. Mexico is old news, we have all been there tons of times if you are from Calif. I have done all there is to do in Mexico and have no desire to ever go back. Too many places I have not seen. If I go south again I would visit cousin in Costa Rica. His GF from Panama and she really wants to take a bunch of people there to see what she says is a country on the rise tourism wise.

I had some great fishing trips down in Baja CA though. If the right group of guys was going i might go again. I would rather though go billfishing in Costa Rica.
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Also BAJA if the **** every hits that fan like you say it will. Mexico will be a mess and they will probably assault and kill the white people. Have fun when the anarchy starts. Either Americans come with their guns, or Mexicans throw you out. Either way you are screwed.
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Also BAJA if the **** every hits that fan like you say it will. Mexico will be a mess and they will probably assault and kill the white people. Have fun when the anarchy starts. Either Americans come with their guns, or Mexicans throw you out. Either way you are screwed.
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Ninety-eight per cent of serious crimes in Mexico go unpunished, according to a recent report by the Monterrey Institute of Technology. For kidnapping, which is rarely reported, the figure might be even higher. Kidnapping is the horror lapping at the edge of nearly everyone’s mind, and it’s known that kidnapping is one of the Zetas’ favorite crimes. Corrupt police are often involved—one of the reasons it’s rarely reported. Private security companies seek to capitalize on the public’s panic. When you read a crime story online, the advertisement blinking alongside the text is often an offer of private protection for you and your family against secuestro—kidnapping. If someone disappears and no ransom call comes, should it even be called kidnapping? Human-rights groups estimate that more than five thousand people have disappeared in Mexico in the past five years.

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EVERYONE LIVING IN MEXICO SHOULD READ THIS
THE NEW GLOBAL ECONOMIC REALITY

First: A reality check on Mexico

Mexico is in a unique position to reap many of the benefits of the decline
of the US economy. In order to not violate NAFTA and other agreements the
U.S.A. cannot use direct protectionism, so it is content to allow the media
to play this protectionist role. The U.S. media - over the last year - has
portrayed Mexico as being on the brink of economic collapse and civil war.
The Mexican people are either beheaded, kidnapped, poor, corrupt, or
narco-traffickers. The American news media was particularly aggressive in
the weeks leading up to spring break. The main reason for this is money.
During that two-week period, over 120,000 young American citizens poured
into Mexico and left behind hundreds of millions of dollars.

Let's look at the reality of the massive drug and corruption problem,
kidnappings, murders and money. The U.S. Secretary of State Clinton was
clear in her honest assessment of the problem. "Our insatiable demand for
illegal drugs fuels the drug trade. Our inability to prevent the weapons
from being illegally smuggled across the border to arm these criminals
causes the deaths of police officers, soldiers and civilians," Clinton
said. The other large illegal business that is smuggled into the U.S.A.
that no one likes to talk about is Human Traffic for prostitution. This
"business" is globally now competing with drugs in terms of profits.

It is critical to understand, however that the horrific violence in Mexico
is over 95% confined to the three transshipping cities for these two
businesses, Juarez, Tijuana and Nogales. The Mexican government is so
serious about fighting this, that they have committed over 30,000 soldiers
to these borders towns. There was a thoughtful article written by a
professor at the University of Juarez. He was reminded of the Prohibition
years in the U.S.A. and compared Juarez to Chicago when Al Capone was
conducting his reign of terror capped off with The Saint Valentine's Day
Massacre. During these years, just like Juarez today, 99% of the citizens
went about their daily lives and attended classes, went to the movies,
restaurants, and parks.

Is there corruption in Mexico? YES !!! Is there an equal amount of
corruption related to this business in the U.S.A.? YES !!!. When you have a
pair of illegal businesses that generate over $300,000,000,000 in sales you
will find massive corruption. Make no mistake about the Mexican Drug
Cartel; these "businessmen" are 100 times more sophisticated than the
bumbling bootleggers during Prohibition. They form profitable alliances all
over the U.S.A. They do cost benefit analysis of their business much better
than the US automobile industry. They have found over the years that the
cost of bribing U.S. and Mexican Border Guards and the transportation costs
of moving marijuana from Sinaloa to California have cut significantly into
profits. That is why over the past 5-7 years they have been growing
marijuana in State and Federal Parks and BLM land all across America. From
a business standpoint, this is a tremendous cost savings on several levels.
Let's look at California as an example as one of the largest consumers.
When you have $14.2 billion of Marijuana grown and consumed in one state,
there is savings on transportation, less loss of product due to
confiscation and an overall reduction cost of bribery with law enforcement
and parks service people. Another great savings is the benefit to their
employees. The penalties in Mexico for growing range from 5-15 years. The
penalties in California, on average are 18 months, and out in 8 months. The
same economic principles are now being applied to the methamphetamine
factories.

FOX News continues to scare people with its focus on kidnapping. There are
kidnappings in Mexico. The concentration of kidnappings has been in Mexico
City, among the very rich and the three aforementioned border Cities. With
the exception of Mexico City, the number one city for kidnappings among
NAFTA countries is Phoenix, Arizona with over 359 in 2008. The Phoenix
Police estimate that twice that number of kidnappings goes unreported,
because like Mexico 99% of these crimes were directly related to drug and
human traffic. Phoenix, unfortunately, is geographically profitable
transshipping location. Mexicans, just like 99% of U.S. Citizens during
prohibition, go about their daily lives all over the country. They get up,
go to school or work and live their lives untouched by the border town
violence.

These same protectionist news sources have misled the public as to the real
danger from the swine flu in Mexico and temporary devastated the tourism
business. As of May 27 2009 there have been 87 deaths in Mexico from the
swine flu. During those same five months there have been 36 murdered school
children in Chicago. By their logic, if 87 deaths from the swine flu in
Mexico warrants canceling flights and cruise ships to Mexico, then close
all roads and highways in the USA because of record 43,359 automobile
related deaths in the USA in 2008.

What is just getting underway is what many are calling the "Largest
southern migration to Mexico of people and real estate assets since the
Civil War" A significant percentage of the Baby Boomers have been doing the
research and are making the life changing decision to move out of the
U.S.A. The number one retirement destination in the world is Mexico. There
are already over 2,000,000 US and Canadian property owners in Mexico. The
most conservative number of American and Canadian Baby Boomers who are on
their way to owning property in Mexico for full or part time living in the
next 15 years is over 6,000,000. Do the math on 6,000,000 people buying a
$300,000 house or condo and you will understand why the U.S. Government is
trying to tax this massive shift of money to Mexico through H.R. 3056. The
U.S. government calls this "The Tax Collection Responsibility Act of 2007".
Those who will have to pay it are calling this the EXIT TAX.

Mexico: A better economic choice than China

Another large exodus from the U.S.A is high paying skilled jobs. The job
shift in automobile sector, both car and parts manufacturing, is already
known by most investors. In the last few months as John Deere and
Caterpillar have been laying off thousands of workers in the U.S.A., and
hiring equal numbers in Mexico. The most recent industry that is making the
shift is the aerospace manufacturers. In the city of Zacatecas there is
currently a $210 million aerospace facility being built. With the 11 U.S.
companies moving there, it is estimated to provide over 200,000 new high
paying jobs in the coming years. One of the main factors for the shift in
job south to Mexico instead of China is realistic analysis of total
production, labor and delivery costs. While the labor costs in China are
40% less on average, the overall transportation costs and inherent risks of
a long distance supply chain, and quality control issues, gives Mexico a
distinct financial advantage.

Mexico's real economic future

Mexico has avoided completely the subprime problem that has devastated the
U.S. banking industry. The Mexican banks are healthy and profitable. Mexico
has a growing and very healthy middle and upper middle class. The very
recent introduction of residential financing has Mexico in a unique
position of having over 90% of current homeowners owning their house
outright. U.S. banks are competing for the Mexican, Canadian and American
cross border loan business. It is and will continue to be a very safe and
very profitable business. These same banks that were loaning in a reckless
manner have learned their lesson and are loaning here the old fashioned
way. They require a minimum of a 680 credit score, 30% down payment, and
verifiable income that can support the loan. In most areas of Mexico where
Baby Boomers are moving to, with the exception of Puerto Penasco (which did
not have a national and international base of buyers), there is no real
estate bubble.. The higher end markets ($2-20 million) in many of these
destinations are going through a modest correction. The Baby Boomers market
here is between $200,000 and $600,000. With the continuing demand inside
the Bay of Banderas, that price point, in the coming years, will disappear.
This is the reason the Mexican government is spending billions of dollars
on more infrastructure north along the coast all the way up to Mazatlan.

The other major area where America has become overpriced is in the field of
health care. This massive shift of revenues is estimated to add 5-7% to
Mexico's GDP. The name for this "business" is Medical Tourism. The two
biggest competitors for Mexico were Thailand and India. Thailand and
India's biggest drawback is geography. Also recent events, Thailand's
inability to keep a government in place and the recent terrorist attack in
Mumbai, have helped Mexico capture close to half of this growth industry.
In Mexico today there are over 56 world class hospitals being built to keep
up with this business.

Mexico is currently sitting on a cash surplus and an almost balanced
budget. Most Americans have never heard of Carlos Slim until he loaned the
New York Times $250 million. After that it became clear to many investors
around the world what Mexicans already knew: that Mexico had been able to
avoid the worst of the U.S. economic devastation. Mexico's resilience is to
be admired. When the U.S. Federal Reserve granted a $30 billion loan to
each of Mexico, Singapore, South Korea, and Brazil, Mexico reinvested the
money in Treasury bonds in an account in New York City.

According to oil traders, Mexico's Pemex wisely as the price of oil shot to
$147 a barrel put in place an investment strategy that hinged on oil
trading in the range of $38-$60 a barrel. Since the beginning of 2009
Mexico has been collecting revenues on hedged positions that give them
$90-$110 per barrel today. Mexico's recent and under reported oil discovery
in the Palaeo Channels of Chicontepec has placed it third in the world for
oil reserves, right behind Canada and Saudi Arabia.

The following is a quote from Rosalind Wilson, President of the Canadian
Chamber of Commerce on March 19, 2009. "The strength of the Mexican
economic system makes the country a favorite destination for Canadian
investment".

OPPORTUNITIES: WHY PUERTO VALLARTA & THE RIVIERA NAYARIT

The answer is simple and old fashioned: SUPPLY AND DEMAND.

The area of Puerto Vallarta/Riviera Nayarit inside the Bay of Banderas is
an investor's dream. This area has the comprehensive infrastructure in
place, world class hospitals and dental care, natural investment protection
from the Sierra Madre Mountains, endless future water supply, low to
nonexistent crime, international airport, and limited supply inside the
Bay, first class private bilingual schools and higher than average
appreciation potential. Like many areas in Mexico there is large demand for
full and part time retirement living and a lot of construction underway to
meet this demand. Pre construction of course is where the best bargains are
available.

I would offer a word of caution for investors in Mexico. Do not be seduced
by the endless natural beauty that is everywhere, both inland in colonial
towns and along thousands of miles of beach. Apply conservative medium and
long term investment strategies without emotion. The demand for full and
part time living by American and Canadian Baby Boomers is evident
throughout the country. The top two choice locations are ocean front, and
ocean view. The third overall choice, which is less expensive, is inland in
one of the many beautiful colonial towns or small cities.

Mexico, with the world's 13th largest GDP, is no longer a "Third World
Country", but rather a fast growing, economically secure state, as the most
recent five-year history of its financial markets when compared to the
U.S.A.'s financial markets suggests.

DOW JONES AVERAGES MAY 2004 10,200 - MAY 2009 8,200 20% LOSS IN 5 YEARS

MEXICAN BOLSA MAY 2004 10,000 - MAY 2009 23,000 130% GAIN IN 5 YEARS

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Some study from CU is now saying Romney and Ryan are going to win. When I heard that news, my whole view of Mexico began to change. I think I'll start brushing off my high school Spanish... como esta usted?
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so the Obama apology machine is not just kissing up to Arabs anymore, congrats.
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Over 70,000 killed in Mexico. 16,000 missing.

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Remember Fast and Furious’s Mexican Victims


The American people finally have heard of Brian Terry. He is the best-known victim of Fast and Furious, an Obama-administration conventional-weapons-proliferation program. Between November 2009 and January 2011, Team Obama arranged for licensed firearms dealers to sell guns to straw buyers, who transferred them to known violent criminals in Mexico. Two of these firearms, AK-47s, were found near Rio Rico, Ariz., where suspected smugglers fatally shot Terry, a 40-year-old former Marine, on December 15, 2010.

“I do not fear death,” Terry once wrote. “I do fear the loss of my honor, and would rather die fighting than have it said I was without courage.”

While Brian Terry is the most visible victim of this notorious policy, he is not its sole casualty.

On February 15, 2011, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agent Jaime Zapata, 32, was shot mortally in San Luis Potosi, Mexico. Members of Los Zetas drug gang also hit ICE Agent Victor Avila in that ambush, although not fatally. This assault involved a rifle purchased in Dallas in another Obama administration “gunwalking” escapade.

Largely overlooked is this plan’s calamitous impact on Mexico, its people, and U.S.-Mexican relations. Fast and Furious has spilled American blood. But south of the border, it has made blood gush like an oil strike.
“One of the things that’s so offensive about this case is that our federal government knowingly, willfully, purposefully gave the drug cartels nearly 2,000 weapons — mainly AK-47s — and allowed them to walk,” Representative Jason Chaffetz (R., Utah) told NBC News. These arms were supposed to lead federal agents in Phoenix to the Mexican thugs who acquired them. Instead, Fast and Furious guns melted into Mexico without a trace.

These weapons became invisible, but not silent.

Approximately 300 Mexicans have been killed or wounded by Fast and Furious guns, estimates former Mexican attorney general Victor Humberto Benítez Treviño. Now the chairman of the Mexican Chamber of Deputies’ Justice Committee, Benítez told the Los Angeles Times that Fast and Furious “was a bad business that got out of hand.”

Relevant details are scarce. However, at least one case generated enormous headlines in Mexico. Here is what happened, according to a July 26, 2011, joint report by House Government Reform Committee chairman Darrell Issa (R., Calif.) and Senate Judiciary Committee ranking Republican Charles Grassley of Iowa.

On October 21, 2010, Sinaloa drug cartel members kidnapped Mario Gonzalez Rodriguez, brother of Chihuahua State’s then–attorney general, Patricia Gonzalez Rodriguez. She believed his abduction was in retaliation for her prosecution of Sinaloa narco-traffickers. A video promptly emerged showing Mario in handcuffs, surrounded by five armed, masked captors. That November 5, his tortured body was discovered in a shallow grave. Mexican police soon nabbed his suspected kidnappers after a shootout. Serial numbers confirm that two of the 16 weapons seized from eight of these hoodlums were Fast and Furious guns. These also were tied to the kidnappings of two people.

Patricia Gonzalez Rodriguez said, “The basic ineptitude of these officials caused the death of my brother and surely thousands more victims.”

Fast and Furious guns have befouled at least 200 crime scenes. Among them:

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Mexico is so corrupt with violence and cartels and government officials it's just sick. No wonder we have an immigration problem.
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Fences won't work, fences won't work...oh, the White House has one. "That's different."
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Fences won't work, fences won't work...oh, the White House has one. "That's different."
How many of you know the US Mexico borders have been thrown wide open and the news about this is all over the world. People are surging across the border into the USA BY PLAN.

https://decryptedmatrix.com/live/exp...ers-wide-open/

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http://www.prisonplanet.com/red-aler...errorists.html

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http://www.infowars.com/red-alert-bo...-terrorists-2/


and yes Mexico has serious problems that will not be resolved anytime soon. This "open border" tactic should be headline news all over the USA, is it?

It's like there is a deliberate attempt on the part of the federal government to destroy the quality of life in the USA. Why is this being allowed?
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^^^ Yes the rumor has had 50000 coming up through Mexico now. I am beginning to wonder the rumor was a fact by Obama administration. Immigrants aka illegal aliens are receiving paperwork to show up to ICE offices but the paperwork has no date on it. They are also being sent to family members already (illegally) in the US.

If this is true, Obama is purposely breaking Federal Laws and this is his way of getting his Immigration Plan working. Allow anyone to march up and come on in....by the 10s of thousands. He makes Bush look like a top all time president.
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^^^ Yes the rumor has had 50000 coming up through Mexico now. I am beginning to wonder the rumor was a fact by Obama administration. Immigrants aka illegal aliens are receiving paperwork to show up to ICE offices but the paperwork has no date on it. They are also being sent to family members already (illegally) in the US.

If this is true, Obama is purposely breaking Federal Laws and this is his way of getting his Immigration Plan working. Allow anyone to march up and come on in....by the 10s of thousands. He makes Bush look like a top all time president.
If so perhaps an impeachment is around the corner. **** I don't blame the mexicans wanting to get out of that hell hole. Their politicians are worse than ours. But hey Mexico is safer than the USA according to the old hippie gringos hiding down in Cabo.

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Old 07-03-2014, 10:17 AM   #350
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Originally Posted by broncocalijohn View Post
^^^ Yes the rumor has had 50000 coming up through Mexico now. I am beginning to wonder the rumor was a fact by Obama administration. Immigrants aka illegal aliens are receiving paperwork to show up to ICE offices but the paperwork has no date on it. They are also being sent to family members already (illegally) in the US.

If this is true, Obama is purposely breaking Federal Laws and this is his way of getting his Immigration Plan working. Allow anyone to march up and come on in....by the 10s of thousands. He makes Bush look like a top all time president.
It's not just people from Mexico. The word has been put out, come to America the borders are open. People are coming to Mexico from all over the world including Syria and other middle east countries.

Read the links I provided.

Not a word in the main stream news I guess?
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