The Orange Mane -  a Denver Broncos Fan Community  

Go Back   The Orange Mane - a Denver Broncos Fan Community > Orange Mane Discussion > Orange Mane Central Discussion
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Chat Room Mark Forums Read



Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-30-2011, 09:28 PM   #26
eddie mac
Ireland's No1 Bronco
 
eddie mac's Avatar
 
Eddie Mac 87 gone but never forgott

Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: IRELAND
Posts: 17,254

Adopt-a-Bronco:
Rod Smith
Default

Orton's going nowhere.
eddie mac is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-30-2011, 09:30 PM   #27
Gcver2ver3
Ring of Famer
 
Gcver2ver3's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Tampa Bay, FL
Posts: 6,581

Adopt-a-Bronco:
replace hillman
Default

haynesworth was the best DT in football before going to washington....

he is a head case but he was told to his face before signing that the skins would not go 3-4 and then after signing they did just that and had him play out of position...

i believe when motivated he's a beast....

if the skins want orton, which i doubt they do, i make the trade...
Gcver2ver3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-30-2011, 09:31 PM   #28
Agamemnon
Guest
 

Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by eddie mac View Post
Orton's going nowhere.
So very true...
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-30-2011, 09:31 PM   #29
Mogulseeker
Formerly mightysmurf
 
Mogulseeker's Avatar
 
Eat greedy

Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Boulder... Vail when it snoooows
Posts: 16,896

Adopt-a-Bronco:
Lamin Barrow
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gcver2ver3 View Post
haynesworth was the best DT in football before going to washington....

he is a head case but he was told to his face before signing that the skins would not go 3-4 and then after signing they did just that and had him play out of position...

i believe when motivated he's a beast....

if the skins want orton, which i doubt they do, i make the trade...
This

Quote:
Originally Posted by SonOfLe-loLang View Post
Thats funny, i was actually just thinking about this in the shower. Yes, i'd do it in a heartbeat provided a restructured contract
And this
Mogulseeker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-30-2011, 09:40 PM   #30
SoCalBronco
Nixonite
 
SoCalBronco's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Arcadia, CA
Posts: 37,029

Adopt-a-Bronco:
D.J. Williams
Default

No. He's a cancer, has already gotten paid and really has no motivation to do anything of value and is basically a joke at this point. I'd like a real asset for Orton, not taking a problem of off someone else's hands (although I do like the idea of Shanny not having to bother with him anymore...just not at our expense).

The FO has implied that they have a real, legitimate (i.e. not settling for trash, taking big risks etc.) plan to strengthen the DL. The acceptability of their draft relies on this premise. If the "plan" was simply to go out and take a bunch of risks to fill this need, then then "sticking to their board" or whatever else you want to call it was completely irresponsible. No.....we're not going to be forced into bad situations to address the DL. The people in charge chose to totally ignore it...well they better have something good in mind then to solve this problem, not trying to rehabilitate Haynesworth or anything like that. That's not an acceptable response.
__________________
SoCalBronco is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-30-2011, 09:47 PM   #31
gtown
Perennial Pro-bowler
 
Hoya Saxa!!

Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: DC
Posts: 921

Adopt-a-Bronco:
Juggernaut #46
Default

I catch basically every Skins game out here. Haynesworth was still unblockable when he was playing. The guy stil has it despite being a turd. Leave it to Shanny to take the best one-gap DT in the game and make him a space eater in a 3-4.

I wouldn't trade Orton for him though. I think we can get a DT that is about as good, and less of a headache and keep Kyle.
gtown is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-30-2011, 10:01 PM   #32
TheReverend
Permanent Facepalm
 
TheReverend's Avatar
 
Not. Too. Shabby.

Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Jacksonville, FL
Posts: 37,675

Adopt-a-Bronco:
Mike Shanahan
Default

30.
Lazy.
Headcase.
Face stomper.
**** career when not in contract year.

**** it, why not? (/sarcasm)
TheReverend is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-30-2011, 10:05 PM   #33
DomCasual
This one's for Pat!
 
DomCasual's Avatar
 
Shameless Homer

Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: SLC, UT
Posts: 13,998

Adopt-a-Bronco:
Pat Bowlen
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SonOfLe-loLang View Post
Thats funny, i was actually just thinking about this in the shower. Yes, i'd do it in a heartbeat provided a restructured contract
I call BS. You don't shower.
DomCasual is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-30-2011, 10:12 PM   #34
Mogulseeker
Formerly mightysmurf
 
Mogulseeker's Avatar
 
Eat greedy

Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Boulder... Vail when it snoooows
Posts: 16,896

Adopt-a-Bronco:
Lamin Barrow
Default

I have to say, though... I'm very interested in all the white b****es he'd bring with him to Denver.
Mogulseeker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-30-2011, 10:17 PM   #35
Pony Boy
"Whoa Nellie"
 
Pony Boy's Avatar
 
Omaha !!!

Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 7,734

Adopt-a-Bronco:
mellon head
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SonOfLe-loLang View Post
Thats funny, i was actually just thinking about this in the shower. Yes, i'd do it in a heartbeat provided a restructured contract
So you were thinking about Haynesworth while taking a shower............. I don't think I would of told anybody that
Pony Boy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-30-2011, 10:19 PM   #36
Mogulseeker
Formerly mightysmurf
 
Mogulseeker's Avatar
 
Eat greedy

Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Boulder... Vail when it snoooows
Posts: 16,896

Adopt-a-Bronco:
Lamin Barrow
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pony Boy View Post
So you were thinking about Haynesworth while taking a shower............. I don't think I would of told anybody that
I was thinking about Haynesworth's white b****es in the shower.
Mogulseeker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-30-2011, 10:21 PM   #37
ZONA
Ring of Famer
 
ZONA's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 10,578

Adopt-a-Bronco:
Chris Harris
Default

I don't think Orton is automatic trade bait right now. I think the coaches are looking forward to the camp competition between Orton and Tebow. If Orton wins because Tebow isn't quite ready yet, fine. We have Orton for one more year and Tebow continues to learn, and at the end of next season there will be no lockout and we can work Orton into a trade involving the draft next year. He's still young enough to be considered in his prime so I don't think we lose any value there.
ZONA is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-30-2011, 10:24 PM   #38
SonOfLe-loLang
Young Buck
 
SonOfLe-loLang's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 21,232

Adopt-a-Bronco:
Thunder (RIP)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pony Boy View Post
So you were thinking about Haynesworth while taking a shower............. I don't think I would of told anybody that
ha, yeah i thought about this while i typed it. Whatever, sometimes i think about broncos football in the shower. sue me.
SonOfLe-loLang is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-30-2011, 10:27 PM   #39
tsiguy96
Ring of Famer
 
tsiguy96's Avatar
 
New to the Forum

Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 12,749

Adopt-a-Bronco:
None
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ZONA View Post
I don't think Orton is automatic trade bait right now. I think the coaches are looking forward to the camp competition between Orton and Tebow. If Orton wins because Tebow isn't quite ready yet, fine. We have Orton for one more year and Tebow continues to learn, and at the end of next season there will be no lockout and we can work Orton into a trade involving the draft next year. He's still young enough to be considered in his prime so I don't think we lose any value there.
there is multiple teams who could possibly contend with orton at QB. minnesota, AZ, SF....hes the most realistic option for a lot of these teams because they dont want to give a 1 for kolb.
tsiguy96 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-30-2011, 10:37 PM   #40
ZONA
Ring of Famer
 
ZONA's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 10,578

Adopt-a-Bronco:
Chris Harris
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by tsiguy96 View Post
there is multiple teams who could possibly contend with orton at QB. minnesota, AZ, SF....hes the most realistic option for a lot of these teams because they dont want to give a 1 for kolb.
No doubt. But I'm saying I'm not totally sold the Broncos want to part ways with him this year with Tebow only having played a handful of games and we'll see how long Quinn stays since a new coaching staff is here. I think the Broncos could be looking at this thing from the perspective that they want Orton to be the starter for 1 more year. Elway has said that he didn't think Tebow was quite there yet and not sure they want to start the season with Tebow as the starter. I don't think we lose any value for Orton by keeping him 1 more year and certainly being able to include him draft trades next year will be an option. I think the coaching staff would like a full year to work with Tebow to see if he can turn that corner (in their eyes) before letting Orton go. Orton can play, we've seen that. Maybe the Broncos feel with a better defense, Orton is enough right now as the team rebuilds around new managements philosophy.
ZONA is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-30-2011, 10:38 PM   #41
cutthemdown
A verbis ad verbera
 
cutthemdown's Avatar
 
Zimm to HOF

Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Long Beach
Posts: 37,096
Default

I think for sure Orton is trade bait. Maybe for a pick, maybe a player, who knows. Even teams like Tenn with a new rookie could be interested in Orton for a pick or player to back up and help out for a yr or 2. Or cards, or the skins, etc etc.
cutthemdown is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-30-2011, 10:47 PM   #42
Steve Sewell
Oh Tyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!
 
Steve Sewell's Avatar
 
Patrick and Ty's pimp

Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 4,625

Adopt-a-Bronco:
Reggie Rivers
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheReverend View Post
30.
Lazy.
Headcase.
Face stomper.
**** career when not in contract year.

**** it, why not? (/sarcasm)
Sounds a lot like Mr. IHOP at the time the Broncos picked him up.
Steve Sewell is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-30-2011, 11:47 PM   #43
TomServo
Ring of Famer
 
TomServo's Avatar
 
Dancing is Forbidden!

Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 2,122
Default

jesus tap dancing christ!! no ones posted it and im not going to take the time to, but look it up on youtube. fat albert laying down on MNF?
the man has his $$. he is lazy and beyond re-habbing.
TomServo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-30-2011, 11:50 PM   #44
BroncoMan4ever
Ring of Famer
 
BroncoMan4ever's Avatar
 
That's just like your opinion, man

Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Denver
Posts: 13,511

Adopt-a-Bronco:
VIRGIL GREEN!!!
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by UberBroncoMan View Post
Such a headcase...would maybe consider it if Washington took on a ton of the money.
i think they have already paid a large chunk of that guaranteed money.

also with only 48 million of the contract guaranteed. and the way it breaks down he would hit that 48 million dollar mark by the end of 2012.

the 7 year 100 million number makes it seem enormous, but after 4 years the team can cut ties with him and move on with no further money owed.

and in 2009 anjd 2010 the Redskins have already thrown 35.6 million at him meaning for 2011 and 2012 we would only need to invest about 13 million on what has been seen as one of the most elite DTs in the league.

cap number for 2011 is 5.4 million and for 2012 is 7.2 million. which after 2012 season would bring his total money paid on the contract to 48.2 million meaning, his guaranteed money is paid and we could either release him or rework a new deal.

essentially the contract is a 4 years and 48 million contract, so it would not be a terrible move money wise and need wise for Denver. especially if we can get him for Orton straight up
BroncoMan4ever is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-30-2011, 11:51 PM   #45
BroncoMan4ever
Ring of Famer
 
BroncoMan4ever's Avatar
 
That's just like your opinion, man

Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Denver
Posts: 13,511

Adopt-a-Bronco:
VIRGIL GREEN!!!
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by cutthemdown View Post
I think for sure Orton is trade bait. Maybe for a pick, maybe a player, who knows. Even teams like Tenn with a new rookie could be interested in Orton for a pick or player to back up and help out for a yr or 2. Or cards, or the skins, etc etc.
i still see Minnesotta as the best spot for him even with Dalton.
BroncoMan4ever is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-01-2011, 12:15 AM   #46
HAT
I think, therefore I ham.
 
HAT's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 5,867

Adopt-a-Bronco:
Adam Weber
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by BroncoMan4ever View Post
i still see Minnesotta as the best spot for him even with Dalton.
Not happening. Frazier has been saying for a month that they are drafting a QB & throwing him into the fire from day 1.

And it's Ponder, not Dalton.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on March 22, 2011, 10:23 AM EDT

Vikings coach Leslie Frazier is not trying to be cagey about his team’s desperate need for help at quarterback.

“I can’t imagine a scenario where we wouldn’t add a quarterback [in the draft] at some point,” Frazier said Tuesday, adding that it would “ideally” come in the first two rounds. “[The idea] would be to get a young guy that could say, ‘OK, we’re going to ride with this guy. He’s our [Joe] Flacco, he’s our [Mark] Sanchez, he’s our Matt Ryan.”
HAT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-01-2011, 12:16 AM   #47
Tim
Guest
 

Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by BroncoMan4ever View Post
i still see Minnesotta as the best spot for him even with Dalton.
I agree, but I think you mean ponder rather than dalton. A williams brother would be huge but a 2012 3-6rd pick is more realistic
  Reply With Quote
Old 05-01-2011, 12:16 AM   #48
RaiderH8r
In The Bag
 
RaiderH8r's Avatar
 
Bring back the tapenade!

Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Meth Alley
Posts: 10,715

Adopt-a-Bronco:
MethWolfe
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by eddie mac View Post
Orton's going nowhere.
Only because he moves as fast as old people screw.
RaiderH8r is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-01-2011, 12:18 AM   #49
Dudeskey
Ring of Famer
 
Dudeskey's Avatar
 
This space for rent

Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Colorado Springs, CO
Posts: 4,310
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by tsiguy96 View Post
would you do it? burger bill said something about it on ESPN...
Sounds like a classic case of throwing some **** on the wall to see what sticks...™
Dudeskey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-01-2011, 12:18 AM   #50
TheProfessor
Seasoned Veteran
 
TheProfessor's Avatar
 

Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 288

Adopt-a-Bronco:
None
Default

The thought of Orton running a healthy dose of boot legs is funny...
TheProfessor is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes



Forum Jump


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 12:23 AM.


Denver Broncos