Bowers or a Defensive Tackle with 2a? - The Orange Mane

OrangeSe7en · 04-28-2011, 08:53 PM

Bowers has really slid. As many has noted, he must have a glaring red flag. But is the first pick of the 2nd the spot where the upside is worth the risk? Or do you take a DT, which is a greater need?

Dukes · 04-28-2011, 08:56 PM

We have pass rushers. Now we need a couple fresh fat guys

TheElusiveKyleOrton · 04-28-2011, 08:57 PM

Fatbodies. Like Fat Booby. Only skinnier.

Doggcow · 04-28-2011, 08:58 PM

I'm happy with austin or bowers or aaron williams (this guy can play safety too which we direly need)

Peae is ok I guess. Sucks that wilkerson, taylor, jordan all bounced off the board so fast

Dedhed · 04-28-2011, 08:59 PM

DT- There is enough concern with Bowers' health that he would be completely off my board.

BroncoInferno · 04-28-2011, 09:05 PM

I love Bowers, but he doesn't fit. He's an edge rusher. With Doom and Miller as the edge rushers, there's simply nowhere to play him. Plus, he has top 5 talent, so the fact that he's still available means that the knee issue must be pretty serious. We don't need to draft another injury risk. Austin or Paea at #36.

OCBronco · 04-28-2011, 09:05 PM

If we come away with Bowers, Peaea or Jurrell Casey with 2a, I'll be happy.

UberBroncoMan · 04-28-2011, 09:06 PM

We have Doom, Miller and Ayers...no reason to draft a DE when we have **** at DT. Get two studs in the middle and we may have something special next year.

epicSocialism4tw · 04-28-2011, 09:06 PM

Best available for Denver:

Bowers
Paea
Austin
Aaron Williams
Kendall Hunter
Drake Nevis
Christian Ballard
Brandon Harris
Jerrell Powe
Kyle Rudolph
Jarvis Jenkins

Two of those guys will likely be available when the Broncos pick at 36 and 46.

orange crusher · 04-28-2011, 09:06 PM

Marvin Austin with 2a please. No to Bowers.

BroncoInferno · 04-28-2011, 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by epicSocialism4tw

Best available for Denver:

Bowers
Paea
Austin
Aaron Williams
Kendall Hunter
Drake Nevis
Christian Ballard
Brandon Harris
Jerrell Powe
Kyle Rudolph
Jarvis Jenkins

Two of those guys will likely be available when the Broncos pick at 36 and 46.

Austin is better than Paea, and there is nowhere to play Bowers with Doom and Miller as the edge guys.

CBF1 · 04-28-2011, 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doggcow

I'm happy with austin or bowers or aaron williams (this guy can play safety too which we direly need)

Peae is ok I guess. Sucks that wilkerson, taylor, jordan all bounced off the board so fast

Dog, You are kidding right? These guys have been 1st round graded for months, just because you hope they fall to Denver does not mean they should have been 2nd rounders.

Any of the following this round would be great:
Bowers
Austin
Paea
Ayers
Rahim Moore is we go safety
Martez Wilson
Ijalana
Houston
Bailey

BroncoInferno · 04-28-2011, 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CBF1

Dog, You are kidding right? These guys have been 1st round graded for months, just because you hope they fall to Denver does not mean they should have been 2nd rounders.

Any of the following this round would be great:
Bowers
Austin
Paea
Ayers
Rahim Moore is we go safety
Martez Wilson
Ijalana
Houston
Bailey

Does no one get that even if Bowers is healthy, there is nowhere to play him? He's an edge rusher....we have to Doom already established as one of those guys and Miller was drafted to be the other. I love Bowers, but he doesn't fit. Austin or Paea.

Doggcow · 04-28-2011, 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CBF1

Dog, You are kidding right? These guys have been 1st round graded for months, just because you hope they fall to Denver does not mean they should have been 2nd rounders.

Any of the following this round would be great:
Bowers
Austin
Paea
Ayers
Rahim Moore is we go safety
Martez Wilson
Ijalana
Houston
Bailey

I know. But they fell further than expected, thus, I think it would have been worth a trade up to snag a fatsnack. Also, easier.

White Horses Inc. · 04-28-2011, 09:15 PM

#4 Austin ...1st round talent
#14 Paea ....strong like bull! 48 bench reps

Is that possible? Don't see a larger hole than DT...other than safety....no offense please!

Doggcow · 04-28-2011, 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by White Horses Inc.

#4 Austin ...1st round talent
#14 Paea ....strong like bull! 48 bench reps

Is that possible? Don't see a larger hole than DT...other than safety....no offense please!

I would jizz in my pants if we got both.

Then maybe DJ Williams in the 3rd or whoever the best TE is.

orange crusher · 04-28-2011, 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CBF1

Dog, You are kidding right? These guys have been 1st round graded for months, just because you hope they fall to Denver does not mean they should have been 2nd rounders.

Any of the following this round would be great:
Bowers
Austin
Paea
Ayers
Rahim Moore is we go safety
Martez Wilson
Ijalana
Houston
Bailey

If they're going Safety, I'd rather take Aaron Williams CB/S over Moore.

Doggcow · 04-28-2011, 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by orange crusher

If they're going Safety, I'd rather take Aaron Williams CB/S over Moore.

This! I like williams as well. A hawk. He can cover a lot of area for us.

sgbfan · 04-28-2011, 09:21 PM

I will be mad if we don't get a DT in this round. Either Austin or Paea. Then either another DT or the best S available. Then MLB or TE in round 3. But can't decide who I would rather have, Paea or Austin.

BroncoInferno · 04-28-2011, 09:22 PM

Don't take a safety early. It's a need, but a poor draft for the position. Take Ahamd Black in the 6th (if available). Not much risk at that point, awesome production in college, worst case he's a special teams ace.

BroncoInferno · 04-28-2011, 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sgbfan

I will be mad if we don't get a DT in this round. Either Austin or Paea. Then either another DT or the best S available. Then MLB or TE in round 3. But can't decide who I would rather have, Paea or Austin.

Austin would have been a top 5 pick had he not had to sit out a year. The character flags don't bother me because I think A LOT of top prospect collegians are guilty of the same thing without getting caught. Take him if he's there. Paea is great if he isn't (and I'm OK with him even if Austin IS still there, though I think I'd be a missed opportunity at getting greatness).

Gcver2ver3 · 04-28-2011, 09:26 PM

i don't care what anyone says, if bowers is available at 36, take him...

screw it, i'm swinging for the fences if i'm xanders and crew...

bpa baby....you can never have too many playmakers on defense, esp pass rushers...

besides, its not exactly set in stone ayers is our answer at DE...perhaps bowers beats him out...

Doggcow · 04-28-2011, 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BroncoInferno

Does no one get that even if Bowers is healthy, there is nowhere to play him? He's an edge rusher....we have to Doom already established as one of those guys and Miller was drafted to be the other. I love Bowers, but he doesn't fit. Austin or Paea.

There's always a place. You play 60 minutes at full speed and tell me you're not tired.

BroncoInferno · 04-28-2011, 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gcver2ver3

i don't care what anyone says, if bowers is available at 36, take him...

bpa baby....you can never have too many playmakers on defense, esp pass rushers...

besides, its not exactly set in stone ayers is our answer at DE...perhaps bowers beats him out...

Bowers top skill set is as an edge rusher...where the hell do you play him with Miller and Doom on the edge? Simply not a good fit. You can't even get creative with him with Doom and Miller already there.

sgbfan · 04-28-2011, 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BroncoInferno

Austin would have been a top 5 pick had he not had to sit out a year. The character flags don't bother me because I think A LOT of top prospect collegians are guilty of the same thing without getting caught. Take him if he's there. Paea is great if he isn't (and I'm OK with him even if Austin IS still there, though I think I'd be a missed opportunity at getting greatness).

I would love both. Haven't seen enough of either of them though. I watched Paea a bit and really liked him. I think he was a top 20 pick if he could have worked out.

04-28-2011, 09:15 PM	#15
White Horses Inc. 2010 Broncos RIP Rise from the Ashes ..Go Broncos! Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: SLC, Utah Posts: 25 Adopt-a-Bronco: DEFENSE	rookie d-line this year? #4 Austin ...1st round talent #14 Paea ....strong like bull! 48 bench reps Is that possible? Don't see a larger hole than DT...other than safety....no offense please!

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04-28-2011, 08:53 PM	#1
OrangeSe7en Ring of Famer New to the Forum Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 2,666 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	Bowers or a Defensive Tackle with 2a? Bowers has really slid. As many has noted, he must have a glaring red flag. But is the first pick of the 2nd the spot where the upside is worth the risk? Or do you take a DT, which is a greater need?

04-28-2011, 08:56 PM	#2
Dukes Ring of Famer Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 6,317	We have pass rushers. Now we need a couple fresh fat guys

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TheElusiveKyleOrton www.dailydickpunch.com @RMoneyBadger Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Steamboat Springs Posts: 9,776 Adopt-a-Bronco: "Debo" Franklin	Fatbodies. Like Fat Booby. Only skinnier. __________________ Nobody puts Jay-bee in the corner.

04-28-2011, 08:58 PM	#4
Doggcow Rebel Laughs At Unbelievers Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 8,303 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	I'm happy with austin or bowers or aaron williams (this guy can play safety too which we direly need) Peae is ok I guess. Sucks that wilkerson, taylor, jordan all bounced off the board so fast

04-28-2011, 08:59 PM	#5
Dedhed Ring of Famer Fare thee well Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Earth Posts: 9,719 Adopt-a-Bronco: Elvis	DT- There is enough concern with Bowers' health that he would be completely off my board.

04-28-2011, 09:05 PM	#6
BroncoInferno Ring of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: South Carolina Posts: 13,003	I love Bowers, but he doesn't fit. He's an edge rusher. With Doom and Miller as the edge rushers, there's simply nowhere to play him. Plus, he has top 5 talent, so the fact that he's still available means that the knee issue must be pretty serious. We don't need to draft another injury risk. Austin or Paea at #36.

04-28-2011, 09:05 PM	#7
OCBronco Seasoned Veteran Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 256 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	If we come away with Bowers, Peaea or Jurrell Casey with 2a, I'll be happy.

04-28-2011, 09:06 PM	#8
UberBroncoMan Your Local Nostradamus 2013... the year of Sci-Fi! Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 6,528 Adopt-a-Bronco: Montee Ball	We have Doom, Miller and Ayers...no reason to draft a DE when we have **** at DT. Get two studs in the middle and we may have something special next year.

04-28-2011, 09:06 PM	#9
epicSocialism4tw Tebowing the long haul all the way to the title Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: TX, USA Posts: 37,072 Adopt-a-Bronco: Champ Bailey	Best available for Denver: Bowers Paea Austin Aaron Williams Kendall Hunter Drake Nevis Christian Ballard Brandon Harris Jerrell Powe Kyle Rudolph Jarvis Jenkins Two of those guys will likely be available when the Broncos pick at 36 and 46.

04-28-2011, 09:06 PM	#10
orange crusher Predominately Orange Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Rapid City, SD Posts: 2,563	Marvin Austin with 2a please. No to Bowers.

04-28-2011, 09:21 PM	#19
sgbfan Ring of Famer Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,002	I will be mad if we don't get a DT in this round. Either Austin or Paea. Then either another DT or the best S available. Then MLB or TE in round 3. But can't decide who I would rather have, Paea or Austin.

04-28-2011, 09:22 PM	#20
BroncoInferno Ring of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: South Carolina Posts: 13,003	Don't take a safety early. It's a need, but a poor draft for the position. Take Ahamd Black in the 6th (if available). Not much risk at that point, awesome production in college, worst case he's a special teams ace.

04-28-2011, 09:26 PM	#22
Gcver2ver3 Ring of Famer Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Tampa Bay, FL Posts: 6,629 Adopt-a-Bronco: not Lance Ball	i don't care what anyone says, if bowers is available at 36, take him... screw it, i'm swinging for the fences if i'm xanders and crew... bpa baby....you can never have too many playmakers on defense, esp pass rushers... besides, its not exactly set in stone ayers is our answer at DE...perhaps bowers beats him out...