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Old 04-27-2011, 11:59 PM   #126
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Hell just yesterday or the day before Mayock was saying Denver will probably take Peterson and shore up the d-line in the 2nd round. Now it's Miller and d-line in the 2nd.
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Old 04-28-2011, 12:15 AM   #127
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That about describes my reaction... My draft party is going to end early if we pick Cam.
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Old 04-28-2011, 07:09 AM   #128
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Sorry, I don't buy the excuse that he's been "****ed" playing out of position. He's an underachiever based on his talent level, period. Willis has had garbage in front of him most of his career, but he still plays at an All-Pro level, so I don't want to hear it. DJ on any team and under any circumstances is an above average player, but that's it. Overpayed based on performance/production.
Aubrayo Franklin says "say what!?!"
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Old 04-28-2011, 07:16 AM   #129
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Aubrayo Franklin says "say what!?!"
One guy. Plus, I said "most of his career," not all of it.
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Old 04-28-2011, 07:19 AM   #130
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One guy. Plus, I said "most of his career," not all of it.
Pro bowlers Bryant Young and Justin Smith say "say what?!"
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Old 04-28-2011, 07:37 AM   #131
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Convince me Miller isn't Curry Pt 2? He was hyped to hell and he has done squat in Seattle.
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Old 04-28-2011, 07:40 AM   #132
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Quick someone put together a list of the top 5 SAM LBs in the league and how many them would be worth taking with a top 5 pick.
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Old 04-28-2011, 07:42 AM   #133
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Convince me Miller isn't Curry Pt 2? He was hyped to hell and he has done squat in Seattle.
Well - for one thing, Curry was never considered a pass rusher. 9 sacks in 4 years. There was hope that he could turn into one...

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Old 04-28-2011, 07:42 AM   #134
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IF Von Miller can produce like Derrick Thomas/Lawrence Taylor, then he's worthy of that #2 pick.

But seriously, how many freakin times will these media heads flip flop our pick? Wasn't it like 2 weeks ago "Broncos to pick Dareus!" then "Broncos to take Peterson!" and now "Broncos to take Miller!"
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Old 04-28-2011, 07:44 AM   #135
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But seriously, how many freakin times will these media heads flip flop our pick? Wasn't it like 2 weeks ago "Broncos to pick Dareus!" then "Broncos to take Peterson!" and now "Broncos to take Miller!"
That's a good thing. Keep everyone guessing and maybe someone will panic and want to move up into our spot.
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Old 04-28-2011, 07:48 AM   #136
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So what is the book on Miller?

Is he like a darker, faster Karl Mecklenburg since he seems to be more of a tweener guy.
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Old 04-28-2011, 07:57 AM   #137
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So what is the book on Miller?

Is he like a darker, faster Karl Mecklenburg since he seems to be more of a tweener guy.
Good point. Sort of... Everyone is darker than Meck...
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Old 04-28-2011, 07:59 AM   #138
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Good point. Sort of... Everyone is darker than Meck...
Except Hillis.
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Old 04-28-2011, 08:04 AM   #139
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Convince me Miller isn't Curry Pt 2? He was hyped to hell and he has done squat in Seattle.
correct me if i'm wrong, but didn't Orakpo play some LB for the Redskins?

since Orakpo was a great pass rusher in college, would he be the better comparrison here?...
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Old 04-28-2011, 08:07 AM   #140
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Quick someone put together a list of the top 5 SAM LBs in the league and how many them would be worth taking with a top 5 pick.
For the ONE GAZILLIONITH TIME, HE WILL NOT BE A TRADITIONAL SAM. HE WILL BE MOVED ALL OVER THE FIELD TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF ZONE BLITZES. Think of him more like Merriman in his prime, DeMarcus Ware, those types except maybe more athletic
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is it me, or does Von Miller get away with making too many arm tackles? His tackles on film look like missed tackles in the NFL.
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Old 04-28-2011, 08:10 AM   #142
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correct me if i'm wrong, but didn't Orakpo play some LB for the Redskins?

since Orakpo was a great pass rusher in college, would he be the better comparrison here?...
That's a better comp, imo. Still a lot different skill set. Orakpo was 20 lbs bigger with a lot more power, but Miller is about .1 seconds faster. Different play-styles as well.
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Old 04-28-2011, 08:13 AM   #143
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is it me, or does Von Miller get away with making too many arm tackles? His tackles on film look like missed tackles in the NFL.
I don't like how many times his tackles get broken and someone else has to finish. Even in his highlight vid.

It's STILL slowing the player enough to where the rest of the D should be swarming and not an issue, but..........

My other question is CAN he rush the passer when he's actually blocked?

Combine that with "How are we going to effectively use him?" and I dunno. I'll LOVE him, his ability, his character, his leadership, etc and be really optimistic, but that's too many ?s at #2 for ME, personally.
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Old 04-28-2011, 08:13 AM   #144
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Pro bowlers Bryant Young and Justin Smith say "say what?!"
Bryant Young was well past his prime. Justin Smith is decent, but in any case a DE not a space eater that would occupy blockers to benefit a LB. My point is correct.
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Old 04-28-2011, 08:14 AM   #145
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Von must feel that it is a waste of his time to tackle players after they get past the line of scrimmage. His effort off the snap is excellent, but if the play goes the other way, he gives a half hearted effort and lets others do the work. He has the talent to be a good cover linebacker, but it looks like to me that it is not a priority or he just doesn't care. All I can say is that I think Von is interested in two stats: "sacks" and "tackles behind the line of scrimmage". If he can add an interception or two to the mix, then that's all right with him, but it's not a priority. Being able to play football at the next level successfully starts by playing football at the college level to the best of your abilities on every play and not just the ones you decide you want to play. Von is a smart kid who thinks that if he does one thing and does it well that this will be his ticket to success at the next level. I just disagree. I know Von with all his awards and workouts will be drafted early, but as I say all the time, "it takes more than talent to play in the NFL" -- it takes heart, character and hard work as well.
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Old 04-28-2011, 08:20 AM   #147
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hehe......ok, so I wasn't the only one.
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Von must feel that it is a waste of his time to tackle players after they get past the line of scrimmage. His effort off the snap is excellent, but if the play goes the other way, he gives a half hearted effort and lets others do the work. He has the talent to be a good cover linebacker, but it looks like to me that it is not a priority or he just doesn't care. All I can say is that I think Von is interested in two stats: "sacks" and "tackles behind the line of scrimmage". If he can add an interception or two to the mix, then that's all right with him, but it's not a priority. Being able to play football at the next level successfully starts by playing football at the college level to the best of your abilities on every play and not just the ones you decide you want to play. Von is a smart kid who thinks that if he does one thing and does it well that this will be his ticket to success at the next level. I just disagree. I know Von with all his awards and workouts will be drafted early, but as I say all the time, "it takes more than talent to play in the NFL" -- it takes heart, character and hard work as well.
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Welllllllllll I don't agree with that at all.

I have questions about Miller along with things I love. Effort and care and heart and work are not among those questions.
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Old 04-28-2011, 08:23 AM   #149
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Someone mentioned it earlier....and it got me worried. Help me feel better that the chances of Miller becoming another Vernon Gholston are low.........
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Good point. Sort of... Everyone is darker than Meck...
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