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Old 04-27-2011, 04:01 PM   #76
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Haha Inferno and schaaf, funny you say that. I actually heard him and Champ teasing each other. Champ, "N!gga how many DUI's you got now gimme yo keys!" (joking with DJ)
Honestly, it bothers me that he still goes out drinking at all. Any poor sap can get saddled with one DUI, but if you get two you are probably driving drunk A LOT. The odds of getting a DUI is something like 1 in 3500, so the odds that he just got caught the two times he screwed up is highly unlikely. Some people just make bad decisions on the sauce even if they start the night determined not to.
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Old 04-27-2011, 04:07 PM   #77
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Not to be a dink, but what could you possibly be basing this off of? Are you really claiming to have paid attention to every draft he's ever run for Carolina and have pre-draft quotes from him that match their actual selections?
no I'm basing that off my ability to read ppl and the way he conducts business
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Old 04-27-2011, 04:07 PM   #78
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They were in Dove Valley yesterday evening and got to talk to their position coaches and Fox. Anyways I had to try and get some inside info on the draft of course.

According to Champ he got the impression we're taking Dareus in the first round. He & D.J. were both pretty happy about it too. They said they're coaches told them we're going to pick very heavily on defense especially with the first four picks.

D.J. kept talking about Martez Wilson. He was really excited about this guy and hopes we get him. He said John Fox even compared him to Jon Beason. Called him the best 4-3 LB in the draft. D.J. really wants this guy. He even said "don't be surprised if we move up to the end of round 1 to make sure we get him."

Take it for what it's worth but these guys talked to their coaches last night.
They can get in a lot of trouble with the league if this gets out. The coaches are still supposed to be operating as if the lockout was happening. No contact with players is allowed.
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Old 04-27-2011, 04:08 PM   #79
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Old 04-27-2011, 04:08 PM   #80
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Old 04-27-2011, 04:09 PM   #81
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I would love to get Dareus and Wilson but I'm not to sold on the idea of trading up to get him. I think he would be there in the second. That way we can keep our picks and pick up a safety or OLB with the 2b pick and a TE in the third like Stocker.
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Old 04-27-2011, 04:09 PM   #82
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They can get in a lot of trouble with the league if this gets out. The coaches are still supposed to be operating as if the lockout was happening. No contact with players is allowed.
Yeah, but with the lockout lifted that just amounts to a gentlemen's agreement. What punitive action could they really take?
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Old 04-27-2011, 04:11 PM   #83
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I hope you called DJ a cab.
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Yeah, but with the lockout lifted that just amounts to a gentlemen's agreement. What punitive action could they really take?
If I've learned nothing in the last few years, I've learned this: Goodell can do whatever he wants to whomever he wants. Do you really want to anger a guy like that when Denver players already have enough trouble staying out of the police blotter? Maybe the next thing that might otherwise merit a small fine could all of a sudden become a multi-game suspension.

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Old 04-27-2011, 04:15 PM   #85
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If I've learned nothing in the last few years, I've learned this: Goodell can do whatever he wants to whomever he wants. Do you really want to anger a guy like that when Denver players already have enough trouble staying out of the police blotter? Maybe the next thing that might otherwise merit a small fine could all of a sudden become a multi-game suspension.

Don't rock the boat when you don't have to.
Good point. I guess I was thinking in terms of punishing the specific act. It would pretty much be an admission of collusion. All that said, I'd be stunned if most of the coaches weren't in some level of contact with their players, lockout be damned.
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I hope the first thing I hear tomorrow night is this: "With the first overall pick in the 2011 NFL draft, The Carolina Panthers select Marcel Dareus" I have been cooling on him the past few weeks. I would like us to pick Patrick Peterson at #2, or if we are able to stay in the top 5, make the trade and end up with one of the usual suspects on defense while picking up atleast a 2nd round pick +

If we go QB, if will be a dead heat with the Rev to see who signs in first at extremeskins.com
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Old 04-27-2011, 04:20 PM   #89
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Heard on ESPN radio,Adam Schefter is predicting the Broncos will select Mr. Von Miller at #2. Haven't seen anything linked to his report on the radio. I'd be okay with this pick, it's growing on me.

We shall see. Usually Schefty is pretty spot on.
What position is he going to play?
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Dude, think outside of the box. You really think they would take him at #2 and then play him like a traditional SAM? There is zero question they would have some creative ideas in mind if they are going to take him that high.
I don't want "creativity" out of my #2 overall pick. I want "here you go: play here: dominate that guy in front of you." I don't want to reconfigure a defense so we can jam a round peg into a square hole. The last time we drafted a guy without a position (Ayers) we heard the same stuff. Two years later, what do we have? A guy without a position.
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Bring in Miller.

Paea in round 2.
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I don't want "creativity" out of my #2 overall pick. I want "here you go: play here: dominate that guy in front of you." I don't want to reconfigure a defense so we can jam a round peg into a square hole.
Thats not the case with Miller. He'll be an instant impact player.
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Old 04-27-2011, 04:24 PM   #93
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I don't want "creativity" out of my #2 overall pick. I want "here you go: play here: dominate that guy in front of you." I don't want to reconfigure a defense so we can jam a round peg into a square hole.
He fits in any defense. That's fine, if we pick him you will be a fan soon enough.
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Thats not the case with Miller. He'll be an instant impact player.
Von Miller may have the biggest instant impact of any player in this draft. I've read in several places he'd be a prime ROY candidate regardless of where he goes.
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The odds of getting a DUI is something like 1 in 3500
Out of curiosity, where the hell is that figure coming from?
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Out of curiosity, where the hell is that figure coming from?
That isn't exact. Hold on, I'll google it. I saw it awhile back.

EDIT: OK, I exaggerated. It's something like 1 in 670 with a .10 BAC, though it's obviously hard to get accurate odds.

http://www.dui.com/dui-library/studi...topped-for-dui

Still, the point stands. If you get multiple DUIs, you are probably driving under the influence A LOT.

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Dumb. How many years in a row are we going to lose games in the trenches before we address the issue!!?? It doesn't matter how good your secondary is if you don't have a pass rush. It also doesn't matter how good your linebackers are if you don't have a defensive line to take on blockers. Get it through your head!!! A good line makes average linebackers look good. A good pass rush makes an average secondary look good.

Dareus should be the pick and I will be pissed if it is anyone else
Couldn't agree more. I would love to have Peterson or Miller, but the truth is, we're not going to win games until we stop everybody running all over us. The West is a running division, with KC and Oak fielding top rushing games and San Diego trying to build the run back up to the Tomlinson days. We desperately need some top talent for the interior defensive line.

That being said, I'd still be pretty excited about the talent of a Miller or Peterson, but c'mon Denver, address the real problem.
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Yeah, that's the concern. He's kind of similar to DJ, really. Elite skill set, but only average instincts. Still, I don't think there is much chance of him being a "bust." Worst case scenario, he's an above average starter (like DJ).
Which would be better than most draft picks turn out! With anything other than a top 5 pick I'd settle for this almost every time!
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Couldn't agree more. I would love to have Peterson or Miller, but the truth is, we're not going to win games until we stop everybody running all over us. The West is a running division, with KC and Oak fielding top rushing games and San Diego trying to build the run back up to the Tomlinson days. We desperately need some top talent for the interior defensive line.

That being said, I'd still be pretty excited about the talent of a Miller or Peterson, but c'mon Denver, address the real problem.
But that's the thing the "DL or bust at #2" crowd can't seem to wrap their minds around....one pick isn't going to make or break the DL. The Lions D still sucked even with Suh playing like an animal right out of the gate. We have other picks plus FA to address DL. I think people are just overly sensitive about it after Shanny ignored the DL for YEARS. But it wasn't one pick here or there that created the problem; it was YEARS of neglecting the DL in the draft and counting on FA also-rans like McGlockton, Leon Lett, IHOP and the Browncos (though to be fair, the Browncos worked out OK for one season) to make an impact.
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Which would be better than most draft picks turn out! With anything other than a top 5 pick I'd settle for this almost every time!
I agree. In the second round, an above average starter is an acceptable outcome.
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