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Old 04-23-2011, 11:12 AM   #1
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NFL Draft 2011: Denver Broncos Focus on Where to Go with #2 Pick in Draft

By Hank Miller(Contributor) on April 23, 2011

With great drafting position comes great responsibility.

This draft will be a superb chance for the Denver Broncos to significantly improve a team that needs help all over. It will also be the first chance for John Elway to demonstrate he is qualified for his new position, for Brian Xanders to prove that Josh McDaniels was a big dummy (wait... too late), and for John Fox to show that the cluster in Carolina wasn't his fault.

The No. 2 pick is fraught with danger historically, and this year is no different. The Broncos could end up with a star, like Ndamukong Suh, Calvin Johnson, Julius Peppers, Marshall Faulk, Eric Dickerson or Lawrence Taylor.

They could also end up with an all-time bust like Ryan Leaf, Rick Mirer, Blair Thomas or Archie Manning (just kidding).

Finally, they could end up with a decent player, but not someone worthy of the pick or the money. Reggie Bush, Ronnie Brown and LaVar Arrington all come to mind in this category.

My thought: don’t end up with anyone at all!

What?

1) “Pass” on Cam Newton, Jake Locker, and Blaine Gabbert

Although the Denver Broncos' quarterback situation is far from settled, it would be folly to use the second pick in this draft on yet another QB. Kyle Orton seems to be what we all figured—steady but unspectacular. Tim Tebow is a walking ATM, but early indications show that the two Johns—Fox and Elway—aren’t nearly as sold on The Timmer as all the fans in Jockey underwear.

That said, none of these potential picks are likely to be any better or more impactful than anybody currently in the stable. If we pick one of these QBs, it is at least one more year suffering with the worst defense in the league.

2) Go on Weight Watchers

Where’s the beef? Not on the Denver Broncos defensive line, that’s for sure. As the Broncos switch (back) from a 3-4 to a 4-3 defense, it is important to add size and depth to the front seven, specifically the front four. The Broncos need size, size, and more size so that, for once, they can throw their weight around. It isn't sexy, but championships are won in the trenches.
The best pick? Marcell Dareus. He is consistently rated as one of the top three players available, and he happens to play the position Denver needs the most. Even better: Ndamukong Suh was the second pick last year.


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“Pass” on Cam Newton, Jake Locker, and Blaine Gabbert



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Although the Denver Broncos' quarterback situation is far from settled, it would be folly to use the second pick in this draft on yet another QB. Kyle Orton seems to be what we all figured—steady but unspectacular. Tim Tebow is a walking ATM, but early indications show that the two Johns—Fox and Elway—aren’t nearly as sold on The Timmer as all the fans in Jockey underwear.
That said, none of these potential picks are likely to be any better or more impactful than anybody currently in the stable. If we pick one of these QBs, it is at least one more year suffering with the worst defense in the league.



Go on Weight Watchers



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Where’s the beef? Not on the Denver Broncos defensive line, that’s for sure. As the Broncos switch (back) from a 3-4 to a 4-3 defense, it is important to add size and depth to the front seven, specifically the front four. The Broncos need size, size, and more size so that, for once, they can throw their weight around. It isn't sexy, but championships are won in the trenches.
The best pick? Marcell Dareus. He is consistently rated as one of the top three players available, and he happens to play the position Denver needs the most. Even better: Ndamukong Suh was the second pick last year.



It’s Miller Time




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Von Miller seems to be one of the few “can’t-miss” prospects in this draft class. While linebacker isn’t necessarily our biggest need (although it is up there), Von Miller provides something that any team can benefit from: speed from the outside. Many people have compared him to Derrick Thomas. Unless your starter is Lawrence Taylor (#2 overall in 1981), how could you pass on that?
[Insert LT joke here]
Imagine that the Denver Broncos bookend pass rushers were Elvis “Doomsday” Dumerville and Von Miller?! That kind of speed would make everyone in Denver look better.


No Mo’ Know’ Mo’



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It would be a huge mistake for the Denver Broncos to draft a skill player, like a running back or wide receiver this early. First of all, the Broncos have drafted these positions in the first round over the last two years (Knowshon Moreno & Demaryius Thomas). Second, it would be way too early in the draft to use the No. 2 pick on one of those positions. The NFL, contrary to the drafting of Josh McDaniels, no longer values running backs or wide receivers.
RBs have become disposable commodities in a running-back-by-committee league.
Wide receivers divas have proven time and again to make little difference.
Quick question: how many titles have T.O., Ocho Cinco and Brandon Marshall won combined?
Answer: 0.
Instead, teams can get by in this league with lunch-pail guys like Wes Welker and Hines Ward if they are strong elsewhere.


Omit the Apostrophe



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At one point, pass rushing DE Da’Quan Bowers looked like he might be the first overall pick in the draft. Then he injured his knee and may never be the same again (micro-fracture surgery… see Terrell Davis).
His knee is a medical risk; he should be avoided. However, not because of the knee, but because I can’t think of a single successful pro athlete with an apostrophe in his name

Why of the Tiger?!



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It pains me to write this, but the Broncos should seriously consider drafting LSU's Patrick Peterson with the No. 2 pick. This goes against everything I believe, and everything I just spent an hour writing. However, he is the No. 1 consensus “can’t miss player.” If you could get Deion Sanders, wouldn’t you draft him at any point, no matter what your needs were? Besides being the best cornerback in the draft, he is among the best returners in the draft. Additionally, with his size (6’ 2” 220), he can move to safety if he doesn’t work out at corner.
Fast, athletic, big, skilled, and versatile. What’s not to like?


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Old 04-23-2011, 11:16 AM   #2
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Solidify our D-LINE!!! Please Mr. Easter Rabbit bring Dareus to Denver!!!
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The Denver Broncos have cut ties with Josh McDaniels and with John Fox and John Elway, are slowly looking to repair the once proud franchise.
The biggest question this offseason for Denver has been whether or not they roll with second year quarterback Tim Tebow, or try starting over yet again by drafting a signal caller in this year's draft. We can't know the "Johns" motives at this point, but you'd have to think with all the chatter, Denver is adding a new passer to the heap at some point in this draft.
But that's just one of the many questions facing the Denver Broncos for the 2011 NFL Draft. Read on for a complete Seven Round mock draft with analysis:
Round One (Pick Two) - Marcell Dareus, DT, Alabama
Denver's defense was a pretty sad sight in 2010, and was already falling apart in the middle of 2009. Unless John Elway and co. shock the world by picking a top quarterback prospect here, the Broncos need to really think hard about which defensive position needs the most work.
I think with Champ Bailey coming back, they can still attack the corner position later in this draft, and then go higher at corner in 2012. For this year, it doesn't seem responsible to pass up an inside beast like Dareus when their interior defense gets pushed around so easily. This pick alone could completely change their defense.
Round Two (Pick 36) - Brooks Reed, DE/OLB, Arizona
Brooks Reed may very well be gone at this point. He's a first round talent, and someone could easily reach for him before the second round. However, if he's anywhere near this pick, Denver could make a move via trade, or possibly sit tight and have him fall right into their laps.
He's not on Clay Matthews' level yet, but he's made in that same mold. The Broncos beef up their run defense in round one and add a pass rush specialist in the second round to garner some extra pressure.
Round Two (Pick 46) - Davon House, CB, New Mexico State
Champ Bailey is back, but he won't be around forever and Denver could still use the extra talent and depth in the secondary. House is a very gifted corner that should still be around in the second round, and would make a solid addition to the defense. Snagging a potential starter like House here makes up for not grabbing Patrick Peterson with the second overall pick in the first round. Well, almost.
Round Three (Pick 67) - Danny Watkins, OG, Baylor
For all the talk about drafting another passer within the first three rounds, I think it'll end up being a smoke screen. Denver can certainly add a quarterback in the final two rounds as a pet project, but at this point, most of the good ones should be gone. In that case, Denver might as well add some solid depth to their offensive line.
Watkins is 27, but he's fundamentally sound and versatile, so he should be ready to contribute almost immediately. Andy Dalton of TCU would be a close second at this spot, but something tells me he could be gone before the third round.
Round Four - No Selections
Round Five - No Selections
Round Six (Pick 184) - Greg McElroy, QB, Alabama
McElroy isn't really that special of a player, but he has a great cerebral game and really knows how to win. His physical attributes are all average or slightly above average, but he still has the size and tools needed to be effective at the next level. If nothing else, McElroy is a proven winner who has played well against top competition, which could be just what John Elway is looking for.
Round Seven (Pick 194) - Adrian Taylor, DT, Oklahoma
Taylor gives Denver another body to throw on the line. As previously mentioned, their run defense needs work, and their defensive line as a whole could use more depth. Taylor probably isn't an immediate impact player, but for a guy in the seventh round, he has solid value.
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Ok, for what it's worth and this thread is as good as any for my humble opinion to be posted: I think miller will be the best player in this draft and hope we get him.

I think he's the best risk reward prospect on offer. In my opinion only Peterson has as high a ceiling and I care more about the lber Corp than the cb's. My picks: miller in the first, d-line 2nd and 2nd again!
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Ok, for what it's worth and this thread is as good as any for my humble opinion to be posted: I think miller will be the best player in this draft and hope we get him.

I think he's the best risk reward prospect on offer. In my opinion only Peterson has as high a ceiling and I care more about the lber Corp than the cb's. My picks: miller in the first, d-line 2nd and 2nd again!
2nd this, and even though ive said it before, i hope miller in 1st and a trade up to end of 1st to get an appropriate DL that wont make it to day 2. go for gold in this draft, 1st round LB and DT instead of 2nd tier guys, go for a guy like heywood with a huge ceiling.
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I'm lost at how Miller can help us immediately...Don't get me wrong, he is an amazing athelete and could really help on 3rd down situations - getting off the field is key. But, we already have Doom and Ayers. Whether Ayers is the answer or not remains to be seen...but I'm not a fan of any 3-4 lbs for our current needs...we need a nasty veteran run stopper that can hit and I think Fox knows that more than anyone. The fact is Miller does little for us at stopping the run...or fill our needs at DL....remember how Williams and Bannan were cut? I think the hype is great...love it in fact. But you have to stay connected with the team's need.

The Broncos, given their positions, should emerge from this draft with possibly the best combination of linebacker and defensive tackle among all recent drafts! Lets make it happen!
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I'm lost at how Miller can help us immediately...Don't get me wrong, he is an amazing athelete and could really help on 3rd down situations - getting off the field is key. But, we already have Doom and Ayers. Whether Ayers is the answer or not remains to be seen...but I'm not a fan of any 3-4 lbs for our current needs...we need a nasty veteran run stopper that can hit and I think Fox knows that more than anyone. The fact is Miller does little for us at stopping the run...or fill our needs at DL....remember how Williams and Bannan were cut? I think the hype is great...love it in fact. But you have to stay connected with the team's need.

The Broncos, given their positions, should emerge from this draft with possibly the best combination of linebacker and defensive tackle among all recent drafts! Lets make it happen!
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His game review versus UT shows my point best...not saying he can't stop the run - but it definitely is not his forte. In the NFL, they review a full game's tape on the player...He's another speedy OLB...looks a lot like Ayers did tbh but with better feet.
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