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Old 04-03-2014, 09:50 AM   #1976
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You guys realize that's an old April Fools article, right?
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Old 04-03-2014, 09:55 AM   #1977
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Just about finished book 5. What other books should I read that can help me get by until book 6. It's a traoticed their is a 2 book series about Duncan and Egg. Is that where you are getting some of your other details on characters or are there others I should get?
Definitely read the dunk and egg novellas. The first one is wonky and me but they get good and offer some good insight. Most specifically into the Blackfyres and Bloodraven. Likely to be huge plot lines in the main series now.

I'm halfway through The Accursed Kings series which Martin credits as the original game of thrones... Only it really happened. It's a translation and originally done in French so it's a tiny bit dry but it's a terrific way to have fun learning about European history and cultural roots.
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Old 04-03-2014, 10:14 AM   #1978
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last night the wife caught up on the series with Xfinity's Watchathon. I really haven't watched anyof the series since the first year and I caught the middle of the Red Wedding episode....



just when I thought I might like to get into the show again. seriously, this is one ****ed up show that knows how to kill off the good characters



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last night the wife caught up on the series with Xfinity's Watchathon. I really haven't watched anyof the series since the first year and I caught the middle of the Red Wedding episode....



just when I thought I might like to get into the show again. seriously, this is one ****ed up show that knows how to kill off the good characters



You should have seen it coming. Martin's world is one in which making stupid decisions, especially for lame reasons (IE Violating your marriage vows because you fall for a hot nurse, or capturing another house's son because you think he might own a knife and that may mean he threw your son out a window). The wedding was so sappy and everything was too good to be true - especially for Frey.
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You should have seen it coming. Martin's world is one in which making stupid decisions, especially for lame reasons (IE Violating your marriage vows because you fall for a hot nurse, or capturing another house's son because you think he might own a knife and that may mean he threw your son out a window). The wedding was so sappy and everything was too good to be true - especially for Frey.
I don't read the books, but I saw the massacre coming from a mile away. While it was shockingly brutal, none of the deaths that occurred really slow the plot down any. I won't miss Rob Stark or his mom, at all. Now if Arya or Jon Snow had died, different story.

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You should have seen it coming. Martin's world is one in which making stupid decisions, especially for lame reasons (IE Violating your marriage vows because you fall for a hot nurse, or capturing another house's son because you think he might own a knife and that may mean he threw your son out a window). The wedding was so sappy and everything was too good to be true - especially for Frey.
I think delayed consequences over decisions is the most powerful element of Martin's work and I definitely believe he learned it from Maurice Druon and the historical fiction series I just mentioned. It's something that's missing from Martin's earlier work and the axis of the entire Accursed Kings series:

It starts with the burning of the Knights Templar and the infidelity of the Princesses of Burgundy and 5 books later, Europe is still reeling from both events and the complex interpersonal relationships at play because of it (just like Martin does).
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You should have seen it coming. Martin's world is one in which making stupid decisions, especially for lame reasons (IE Violating your marriage vows because you fall for a hot nurse, or capturing another house's son because you think he might own a knife and that may mean he threw your son out a window). The wedding was so sappy and everything was too good to be true - especially for Frey.
i should have seen what coming? i haven't watched the show in 2 years.

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his Sunday, 114 million global HBO subscribers and roughly 250 million web-savvy HBO non-subscribers will join hands and avail themselves of the fourth-season premiere of Game of Thrones, a quasi-medieval Prestige Cable Network Battle of the T's and A's with way more T's, A's, leering ultraviolence, peripheral characters whose plot functions let alone names I will never remember, and childish nihilism. I will be watching as well, grudgingly, as I've just absolutely had it with at least three of those five core ingredients; the lurid close-up of a pregnant lady receiving multiple stab wounds pretty much did it for me. But hang in I shall, for I intend to see King Joffrey get brutally murdered.
http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/die...ium=socialflow

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Haven't read the books but this is exactly where I'm at.


but beyond that, I got no idea what happens to anybody, and who cares. I just want to see King Joffrey get brutally murdered

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I don't read the books, but I saw the massacre coming from a mile away. While it was shockingly brutal, none of the deaths that occurred really slow the plot down any. I won't miss Rob Stark or his mom, at all. Now if Arya or Jon Snow had died, different story.





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I don't read the books, but I saw the massacre coming from a mile away. While it was shockingly brutal, none of the deaths that occurred really slow the plot down any. I won't miss Rob Stark or his mom, at all. Now if Arya or Jon Snow had died, different story.
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I love how at the end of the Rains Of Castmere Frey and Bolton are talking and they say.

Frey- He called himself the young wolf.
Bolton- Forever young!
Frey-Howling like a wolf!

****ing classic could you hate those 2 anymore?
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I don't read the books, but I saw the massacre coming from a mile away. While it was shockingly brutal, none of the deaths that occurred really slow the plot down any. I won't miss Rob Stark or his mom, at all. Now if Arya or Jon Snow had died, different story.
I agree...The worst Stark of the lot was the mother...almost as bad Cersi. Cersi is just better at being sneaky
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I agree...The worst Stark of the lot was the mother...almost as bad Cersi. Cersi is just better at being sneaky
Her hatred of everyone and everything frees her in ways Cat Stark never can be.
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Her hatred of everyone and everything frees her in ways Cat Stark never can be.
Yeah...that's a better way to put it.

In season one she has utter contempt for John Snow..and then in season 3 crying about how she begged Ned to name him....bull****. I haven't read the books and probably won't....but anyway
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What did y'all think? Arya has turned into a cold little b****, and I'm thinking this homosexual prince may crack some skulls this season. A great season opener IMO.
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I thought the hound was hilarious eating his chicken
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Don't you mean every chicken in the place
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What did y'all think? Arya has turned into a cold little b****, and I'm thinking this homosexual prince may crack some skulls this season. A great season opener IMO.

The violence Arya displayed was worse to me then what the Hound did. He was in a fight, he killed quickly. Arya did defend the Hound, but her kills were slow. I dont think inexperience had anything to do with it. She was being slow deliberately. That is a level of cruelty she has been pushed to.


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The violence Arya displayed was worse to me then what the Hound did. He was in a fight, he killed quickly. Arya did defend the Hound, but her kills were slow. I dont think inexperience had anything to do with it. She was being slow deliberately. That is a level of cruelty she has been pushed to.


No doubt. She has seen her father killed, and her brothers body ridiculed and mutilated shortly after his demise. She has been pushed into this level of cruelty, given away by the satisfaction in her eyes shortly after doing these deeds. I love her character, but her innocent quality that made her so lovable is almost gone.
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