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Old 05-09-2013, 06:46 AM   #1476
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My guess is that he's just a miscellaneous Targ bastard. Probably some connection there, but he's way too young to be R.
Rhaegar was 24 when he supposedly died on the Trident, which wasn't terribly long before.
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Old 05-09-2013, 07:06 AM   #1477
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Regarding Darkstar:

http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php...d-of-darkstar/
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The dude I'm most curious about is Maester Marwyn (the mage.)

Seems like he's got a big step up on most of the budding wizards & necromancers.

May very well be the "Arch-maester" for the "magic" link. Already had a big interest in this when most of the others still regarded it as an obscure liberal arts class. To that extent, a rebel within the Citadel.
Connected with Qyburn in terms of undead research. (ghosts)
Trained Mirri Maz Duur.
Has traveled extensively. Also hangs out with numerous undesirables.
He strongly implies to Sam that he has some kind of noble bloodline and seems to be taking him under his wing.
Somehow connected to "the Alchemist." May be in cohoots with Jaqen.
On course to meet up with Dany.
Has been studying this stuff (including the history of dragons) for a long time.

Could be an extremely helpful ally or a very dangerous foe. At the very least a key source of info for the major players.

Unless, of course, Jaqen snuffs him.
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Let's hope Theon gets spared the screen time tonight. Time to cut the poor guy some slack.
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Game of Thrones games is just awesome!!! Finally a strategy board game to mix it up with Risk!

http://www.ign.com/blogs/gameguy523/...he-board-game/
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Old 05-12-2013, 07:31 PM   #1481
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Game of Thrones games is just awesome!!! Finally a strategy board game to mix it up with Risk!

http://www.ign.com/blogs/gameguy523/...he-board-game/
Its okay. Played it a few years ago with some friends to test it out. The combat mechanics are pretty simple, some may complain that they are overly simple and you only have a choice between 5 houses, Lannister, Tyrell, Stark, Greyjoy, and Baratheon. And you really need 5 players for the game to work. If you try to play with 3 or 4 it gets really unbalanced in favor of the Starks and Lannisters, who won't have anyone to keep them in check. (The game tells you which houses to play per number of players)

Fantasy Flight games also did a Collectable Card Game for the books some years ago. It was pretty fun while it lasted and everyone who played it would laugh out loud at Joffrey's card. Within the mechanics of the game, his ability just so suited the little brat.
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Old 05-12-2013, 08:46 PM   #1482
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that was uninspiring
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His character is reduced.
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Old 05-13-2013, 03:42 AM   #1486
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Let's hope Theon gets spared the screen time tonight. Time to cut the poor guy some slack.
It's just too far.

I get portraying the torture as opposed to how he disappeared from the books for so long, but when they're cutting important parts of the books and allotting that time to Greyjoy getting tortured every episode... now it's just stupid.
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It's just too far.

I get portraying the torture as opposed to how he disappeared from the books for so long, but when they're cutting important parts of the books and allotting that time to Greyjoy getting tortured every episode... now it's just stupid.

I agree, it has gone beyond absurd at this point. We get it, they are doing mean nasty things to Theon. We no longer require a weekly update. I personally felt that presenting Robb with a piece of Theon's skin would have been more than enough to imply his fate. Plus, now the audience won't get the same surprise that he is actually still alive in a retched reduced form when his plot line picks up again.

Overall, I was kind of disappointed by this episode. I was expecting more when I saw that George R.R. Martin was penning it. He spoiled me with last year's Blackwater episode. Too many scenes felt like we were doing a mandatory check-in on characters to ensure the audience hadn't forgotten about them, without really advancing the plot. Poor Tyrion, book 3 did kind of push him to the side, but he really hasn't had any good scenes this year, nothing to come close to matching his Blackwater speech.

Still, I'm glad that Nicolaj had the patience to stick with the character for two seasons while the show set up his story, because he has been absolutely killing it this year. I would say that 2 of the 5 best scenes of the season belong to him.
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It's just too far.

I get portraying the torture as opposed to how he disappeared from the books for so long, but when they're cutting important parts of the books and allotting that time to Greyjoy getting tortured every episode... now it's just stupid.
THIS^

Frankly I don't at all like Theon's character. Not in the book and not in the show. And it's not a hatred like most have for King Joef. It's just that his character is boring. I get that HBO likes the guy as an actor and that is why they kept him in…but is he really able to show his acting range being tied to a post getting flayed? Wow…Theon's crying again. Wow…Theon's in a great deal of pain again.

Only three episodes left…they will surely end on the Red Wedding…no? Can't wait for that!!!
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I think they're too close to the red wedding to put it off 3 episodes unless they just ignore Robb's camp for 2 of them. It seems to me like they'll get to both weddings as the other plot line has advanced quite a bit too.
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I think they're too close to the red wedding to put it off 3 episodes unless they just ignore Robb's camp for 2 of them. It seems to me like they'll get to both weddings as the other plot line has advanced quite a bit too.
Both weddings? There's 3, though
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Both weddings? There's 3, though
The 3rd one will be in season 4....can't wait!!!!!!!
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Theon is going to play a big part in seasons to come, as all the book readers know. I think they had to go to this extent for viewers to understand his transformation from the bold, cock-sure braggart, to the whipped dog of a man he is to become. I think we've seen the last Theon Greyjoy scene this season.

I personally thought this was a great episode. I like that GRRM confirmed a few things that were rather debated in the book - Theon's member being one of them. I loved that GRRM finally had Tormund being Tormund. "Tormund hasn't talked about what a beast in the sack he is yet - I'm going to fix that straight away."

I loved the episode. That exchange between Tywinn and Joffrey was perfect. The exchange between Jaime and Qyburn was great. The dragons were amazing, and Clarke's acting in that parlay was great.
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So... Jeyne (or at least her counterpart on the show) is definitely pregnant. This was a point of much speculation because it is never spelled out in the books, and could have big consequences for the story going forward.
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Both weddings? There's 3, though
Really? I can only remember red and royal, who else gets hitched? Unless you're talking about Lysa. That one seems pretty far off at this point.
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Really? I can only remember red and royal, who else gets hitched? Unless you're talking about Lysa. That one seems pretty far off at this point.
Tyrion gets married to Sansa.
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So... Jeyne (or at least her counterpart on the show) is definitely pregnant. This was a point of much speculation because it is never spelled out in the books, and could have big consequences for the story going forward.
Or she's completely worthless to the story from here on out and they'll kill her at the Red Wedding.

We'll find out soon though.
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Or she's completely worthless to the story from here on out and they'll kill her at the Red Wedding.

We'll find out soon though.
That would be extremely GRRM-esque.
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Tyrion gets married to Sansa.
Of course I miss the obvious one.
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Overall, I was pleased with the episode. The world is really coming alive with the panorama shots. Not the most dramatic events, but lots of character shifts and multiple plotlines set up for the final three eps.

I imagine we'll get at least one more Theon scene this season, but probably not until episode 10.

Looking forward to some fun in Yunkai next week, more of the Hound, and some cool stuff up north.
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so i'm not a book reader, obv, but why do the wildlings wanna invade the south? is their goal just to invade and post up, making that their new home? north of the wall is really crappy, but i guess i'm just not understanding their end game here. as jon snow said, they don't really stand any real chance invading the kingdom.

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