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Old 06-01-2015, 05:49 PM   #2826
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Why would the Night's King be Azor Ahai? Last I checked, the Others weren't champions of R'hollor.
Because it is the little **** you that I could see the little troll throwing at the readers/viewers. Heroes are evil and the bad guys do good things.
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Old 06-01-2015, 05:51 PM   #2827
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The new Bruce Jenner looks like the wildling women that got munched last night.
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Old 06-01-2015, 05:55 PM   #2828
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Just watched it. That was a genuinely awesome episode. Helps to redeem this season a bit.
He likes it! Hey Mikey...
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Old 06-01-2015, 05:58 PM   #2829
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Loved last nights episode...

Dani meeting Tyrian was awesome! Such good dialogue. Sad for The Knight of Friendzone though.

Obviously Jon Snow vs. the white was pretty amazing...and the stair down with the king of the whites was pretty intense....and chilling when the white raised his arms up.

Cersei thing was ok....

Aria storyline is fine....just not really clear to non book readers as to what she is doing.
A genuinely unsettling setup when John Snow was sailing away and the walker army was staring him down. When the credits rolled and all you heard was the waves crashing...awesome. It was the best battle scene I've seen on TV.
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Old 06-01-2015, 06:36 PM   #2830
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Old 06-01-2015, 07:04 PM   #2831
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I dunno...last night's episode was great and all but it just really raises a lot more questions for me.

Like do I name my first born son Tormund or Wun Wun?
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Old 06-01-2015, 07:24 PM   #2832
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I dunno...last night's episode was great and all but it just really raises a lot more questions for me.

Like do I name my first born son Tormund or Wun Wun?
Hodor seems to be the only proper answer to your quandary.
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Old 06-02-2015, 06:31 AM   #2833
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It was the best battle scene I've seen on TV.
More of a slaughter than a "battle".
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Old 06-02-2015, 06:48 AM   #2834
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Ok, don't take this as a criticism because I loved that episode like everyone else. But is this the first time the wights became sprinters? From what I recall, they definitely were not in earlier episodes (maybe the exception being the pilot?) and I don't think the books referred to that either.

When the first one peaked through the gate I couldn't help but think "Deadite" from Army of Darkness. Still freaking awesome.
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Old 06-02-2015, 09:34 AM   #2835
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Nah they ran last season when they were chasing Bran's group if I remember right.
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Old 06-02-2015, 09:39 AM   #2836
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Nah they ran last season when they were chasing Bran's group if I remember right.
Completely forgot about that. Thank you
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Old 06-02-2015, 11:48 AM   #2837
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Wouldn't Danys be Azor Ahai?

And Jon Snow is the Prince who was Promised?


This, but who is the third head? Aemon wanted to be the 3rd. Who is the 3rd head of the dragon?
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Old 06-02-2015, 12:18 PM   #2838
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Wouldn't Danys be Azor Ahai?

And Jon Snow is the Prince who was Promised?
I actually think Daenerys is supposed to be the Prince who was Promised. I forget where I read it, but there is a specific entry that originates from Martin indicating that the original prophecy that the phrase "prince who was promised" was taken from actually translated the word prince from a word that was gender neutral. The only reason Martin would go to pains to specify this fact would be to provide internal consistency for Daenerys being revealed as the Prince or to throw out a red herring.
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Old 06-02-2015, 12:37 PM   #2839
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There's lots of crazy GOT theories, and most of them are probably wrong, but watching Jon defeat that white walker with Valyrian steel, even it hasn't happened in the books, reminded me of the one theory that I'm 99% sure is correct. Don't watch if you don't want to ruin a possible future surprise:

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I actually think Daenerys is supposed to be the Prince who was Promised. I forget where I read it, but there is a specific entry that originates from Martin indicating that the original prophecy that the phrase "prince who was promised" was taken from actually translated the word prince from a word that was gender neutral. The only reason Martin would go to pains to specify this fact would be to provide internal consistency for Daenerys being revealed as the Prince or to throw out a red herring.
I think you may be right since I strongly suspect Jon Snow is actually Azor Ahai.
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I actually think Daenerys is supposed to be the Prince who was Promised. I forget where I read it, but there is a specific entry that originates from Martin indicating that the original prophecy that the phrase "prince who was promised" was taken from actually translated the word prince from a word that was gender neutral. The only reason Martin would go to pains to specify this fact would be to provide internal consistency for Daenerys being revealed as the Prince or to throw out a red herring.
Maester Aemon says it in AFFC.
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Old 06-02-2015, 01:12 PM   #2842
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I think you may be right since I strongly suspect Jon Snow is actually Azor Ahai.
Azor Ahai and TPWWP are used interchangeably by Melisandre in the book, and by GRRM in his talks.
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Old 06-02-2015, 01:35 PM   #2843
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Azor Ahai and TPWWP are used interchangeably by Melisandre in the book, and by GRRM in his talks.
Melisandre is clueless. She thinks Stannis is Azor Ahai ffs. The prince who was promised may or may not be related to the Azor Ahai prophecies (they aren't referenced together really ever other than by miss clueless). I know that whenever Melisandre looks in her fires to find Azor Ahai she sees snow, and she's too dumb to figure it. It's also worth noting she doesn't see Dany. But Dany is important clearly. I just think Martin has been too obvious with trying to make her look like she is Azor Ahai. The evidence for Jon is less obvious but actually stronger in my opinion. So either Azor Ahai is more than one person or Dany is someone else. At least in my opinion.
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Melisandre is clueless. She thinks Stannis is Azor Ahai ffs. The prince who was promised may or may not be related to the Azor Ahai prophecies (they aren't referenced together really ever other than by miss clueless). I know that whenever Melisandre looks in her fires to find Azor Ahai she sees snow, and she's too dumb to figure it. It's also worth noting she doesn't see Dany. But Dany is important clearly. I just think Martin has been too obvious with trying to make her look like she is Azor Ahai. The evidence for Jon is less obvious but actually stronger in my opinion. So either Azor Ahai is more than one person or Dany is someone else. At least in my opinion.
Jon is pretty obvious too. Also, there's more than one Snow.
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Jon is pretty obvious too. Also, there's more than one Snow.
There's only one Snow of note in the world, and if Melsandre had a clue she would've recognized Jon is a hundred times more suited to saving the world than Stannis. And Jon doesn't obviously fit the prophecy in the way Dany does. Martin has pretty much made the prophecy scream Dany is the one so I tend to think she isn't, or, again, that she is only one of two (maybe three).
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There's only one Snow of note in the world, and if Melsandre had a clue she would've recognized Jon is a hundred times more suited to saving the world than Stannis. And Jon doesn't obviously fit the prophecy in the way Dany does. Martin has pretty much made the prophecy scream Dany is the one so I tend to think she isn't, or, again, that she is only one of two (maybe three).
Being the Lord of Winterfell makes another Snow also of note.
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Snow, Dany and Lil Tyrion are the trio.
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More of a slaughter than a "battle".
Yea, pretty much. I don't see how they will be able to take on the white walkers, but I look forward to seeing it play out.
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Old 06-02-2015, 03:43 PM   #2849
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Yea, pretty much. I don't see how they will be able to take on the white walkers, but I look forward to seeing it play out.
Dragons.
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That'll be something to see. HBO will have to up the budget a bit for that battle.
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