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Old 06-03-2016, 07:31 PM   #1
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Kicked off this evening with USA v. Colombia.

The US team is in the toughest group and will probably struggle.

I pick a Mexico/Argentina final and Argentina wins on a controversial call.
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Old 06-03-2016, 07:51 PM   #2
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It won't be the USA that's for sure. This team sucks.
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If you don't like soccer.. don't read the thread.
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Old 06-03-2016, 08:38 PM   #5
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If you don't like soccer.. don't read the thread.
Easy enough, right?
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It won't be the USA that's for sure. This team sucks.
They don't play with heart.

A lifeless US team is not a US team. If they're not inspired, I'm not inspired. I'd rather invest myself in Mexico at this point.
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Team USA lacks the talent of other countries along with a lack heart and good coaching. Outside of that, they are pretty much on par with the women.
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That was weak. Done with Dempsey, seems like an entitled whiner that the young guys follow. More interested in getting fouled than making the play. That crap drives me nuts.
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That was weak. Done with Dempsey, seems like an entitled whiner that the young guys follow. More interested in getting fouled than making the play. That crap drives me nuts.
Interesting diving note...

James Rodriguez hurt his shoulder diving on a play that looked like he didn't even get touched.
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Team USA lacks the talent of other countries along with a lack heart and good coaching. Outside of that, they are pretty much on par with the women.
There is plenty of talent out there.

The entire US defense play premiership or bundesliga soccer every week. The two outside backs are flat out studs and John Brooks is a rising star.

The US team actually looked in control for much of the game, but they just didn't seem to want the win. It seemed like few had the courage to step up and make things happen.

They let in an early set piece goal and then had a ridiculous penalty kick go against them. Yedlin's handball was clearly incidental and didn't disrupt a scoring opportunity.

They came out scared, had some bad breaks, and didn't have the spine to fight back.
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team actually looked in control for much of the game, but they just didn't seem to want the win. It seemed like few had the courage to step up and make things happen.
This is nonsense you say about a team that you want to believe is better than they are. Basically what gunner fans trot out every year in about March.

The penalty was a direct result of a Bradley bonehead turnover, which this team always seems to have four or five of in a game. They may have talent, but they lack polish and cohesion. I don't see a team that played scared, I saw a team that just isn't very good.
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I was actually encouraged by their friendlies... But nope, same old ****
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This is nonsense you say about a team that you want to believe is better than they are. Basically what gunner fans trot out every year in about March.

The penalty was a direct result of a Bradley bonehead turnover, which this team always seems to have four or five of in a game. They may have talent, but they lack polish and cohesion. I don't see a team that played scared, I saw a team that just isn't very good.
Sure. Excuses, excuses.

The penalty was ridiculous though. No doubt about that.

I read that the US changed their game plan for Colombia. They assigned Jones to retreat and help Fabian Johnson with Cuadrado rather than to push higher up the field to help connect passes through the packed Colombian midfield. Jones was upset about it and made a comment suggesting that their attack was hindered by it.

Fabian Johnson was invisible in this one except for when he lost his mark.

Dempsey was unlucky. He shaved the post in the first half, had a header cleared off the line, and had the keeper make a great save on a free kick he placed in the corner.

The only real chance Colombia created from the run of play was the play Bacca put off the bar.

The US team didn't get the breaks. They weren't any worse than Colombia.
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Growing up as an American in Colombia, I was really excited for this match and had mixed allegiances. It was probably the most excited I had been for a sporting event since the Superbowl, but that was an incredibly boring match. It had a few glimpses of what can make soccer exciting, but just glimces.
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Growing up as an American in Colombia, I was really excited for this match and had mixed allegiances. It was probably the most excited I had been for a sporting event since the Superbowl, but that was an incredibly boring match. It had a few glimpses of what can make soccer exciting, but just glimces.
This was the first time I have ever seen a talented team have a conservative, defense-oriented game plan that relied on quick counters against a US team.

They wouldn't chase the ball down when the US had it until they passed midfield and they would put the most effort into their counter attacks rather than building through the midfield.

Colombia packed the middle quarter of the field to slow down Bradley and Jones and Zardes couldn't collect the ball and distribute it to the overlapping backs because we were playing conservative and keeping them pushed toward the back.

So the ball basically went back and forth over the half line, changing possession, for large swaths of the game.

It was a defensive game.
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The U.S. seemed to give up in the last 15-20 minutes of the match. A lot of poor passing and half-effort. That's disappointing. It was time to really make their skills and patience work, but they just fell flat. Isn't Columbia ranked 3rd or 4th in the world? It's understandable if Team USA doesn't beat them, but they've got to at least try harder.
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The U.S. seemed to give up in the last 15-20 minutes of the match. A lot of poor passing and half-effort. That's disappointing. It was time to really make their skills and patience work, but they just fell flat. Isn't Columbia ranked 3rd or 4th in the world? It's understandable if Team USA doesn't beat them, but they've got to at least try harder.
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That was weak. Done with Dempsey, seems like an entitled whiner that the young guys follow. More interested in getting fouled than making the play. That crap drives me nuts.
Are you talking about the guy with the 2 best scoring opportunities in the game? Yeah he's worthless.
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Growing up as an American in Colombia, I was really excited for this match and had mixed allegiances. It was probably the most excited I had been for a sporting event since the Superbowl, but that was an incredibly boring match. It had a few glimpses of what can make soccer exciting, but just glimces.
Well unfortunately and fortunately, I guess, that was probably one of the ugliest soccer matches ever played. The US is severely devoid of skill, most notably ball control, and despite Colombia's inflated world ranking, they are a team built around a few talented players, but play a style of soccer that is about as vanilla and safe as it comes.

Granted, one must note that these teams haven't had time to gel, and their lack of chemistry played huge dividends into the boreish nature of play, but really there is little excuse for supposed world class or nationaly recognized talent.

Coaching on both sides was terrible. Klinsmans decision to try and exploit his height advantage by sending 30-40 yard long balls over the top when Colombias back line was standing on the 30 yard box was deplorable,
and desperate. The US put together one good run of play, and it led to Dempsey's near miss, other than that they looked amateur at best. Meanwhile, Colombia, with the early goal in hand, made the US force the game and played a lackluster counterattacking style that was really only slightly better than the US's sorry ass attempt at throwing hail-marys because they have better talent from the midfield up.

That match made me want to vomit.

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Are you talking about the guy with the 2 best scoring opportunities in the game? Yeah he's worthless.
Where did I say he was worthless? And what was the final score?

There's a saying in soccer, "FINISH!"
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The USA got a good result when Costa Rica tied Paraguay 0-0.

US Soccer is guaranteed passage to round 2 with two wins and has a chance to get through with a win and a tie.
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Peru is on top of group B after a 1-0 win over a spirited Haiti squad and a 0-0 tie between Brazil and Ecuador.
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