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Old 01-14-2013, 11:57 PM   #1
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not going to last to 28 and frankly after watching his play at the EOS I was not overly impressed..

get him in the third might be worth it..
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Also watching him in the bowl game was not impressed and IF he is indeed only 236 he is not big enough to play MLB in the NFL ..IMO
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I think we can shorten our potential list of candidates...


1) Manti Te'o - Will be gone, and very unlikely we trade up.

2) Alec Ogletree - Very hard for me to believe he's a 43 Mike. Most likely a SAM. Could play inside in a 34 defense. Needs to get much stronger or play with better leverage.

3) Kevin Minter - Our best option by far.

4) Shayne Skov - Stayed in School, granted an extra year.

5) Kevin Reddick - Our second best option.

6) Andrew Jackson - Stayed in school.

7) Jon Bostic - An option.

8) Kiko Alonzo - Multiple off field issues involving alcohol. Can't imagine we would go this route.

9) James Morris - Stayed in school from what I can tell.

10) Nico Johnson - An option.


AJ Klein and Bruce Taylor should be added.



So, realistically, I think we're looking at:

1) Kevin Minter - Round 1
Best Season: (2012) 130 Tackles, 15 for loss, 4 Sacks, 1 Int, 5 Passes Defensed, 1 Forced Fumble.

2) Kevin Reddick - Round 2
Best Season: (2012) 85 Tackles, 19 For loss, 7 Sacks, 6 Passes Defensed, 2 Forced Fumbles.

3) Bruce Taylor - Round 4
Best Season: (2010) 91 Tackles, 16 For Loss, 6 Sacks, 4 Passes Defensed.

4) Jon Bostic - Round 4
Best Season: (2011) 94 Tackles, 10 For Loss, 3 Sacks, 2 Passes Defensed, 1 Forced Fumble.

5) AJ Klein - Round 5
Best Season: (2011) 117 Tackles, 8 For Loss, 2 Sacks, 1 Int, 6 Passes Defensed.

6) Nico Johnson - Round 6
Best Season: (2011) 46 Tackles, 7 For Loss, 1 Sack, 1 Int, 3 Passes Defensed, 1 Forced Fumble.

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Taco, we have been talking MLB prospects for weeks now.. but welcome to the party anyway!
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Given how thin the position is, I'm guessing we would have to trade up to get Minter. Te'o will be long gone. DJ is a better option that Ogletree. I wanted Skov, but looks like that option is out. After that, you're just rolling the dice. No good options in FA either. Looks to me like we'll hold onto DJ and try to make do with what we've got.
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I think we can shorten our potential list of candidates...


1) Manti Te'o - Will be gone, and very unlikely we trade up.

2) Alec Ogletree - Very hard for me to believe he's a 43 Mike. Most likely a SAM. Could play inside in a 34 defense. Needs to get much stronger or play with better leverage.

3) Kevin Minter - Our best option by far.

4) Shayne Skov - Stayed in School, granted an extra year.

5) Kevin Reddick - Our second best option.

6) Andrew Jackson - Stayed in school.

7) Jon Bostic - An option.

8) Kiko Alonzo - Multiple off field issues involving alcohol. Can't imagine we would go this route.

9) James Morris - Stayed in school from what I can tell.

10) Nico Johnson - An option.


AJ Klein and Bruce Taylor should be added.



So, realistically, I think we're looking at:

1) Kevin Minter - Round 1
Best Season: (2012) 130 Tackles, 15 for loss, 4 Sacks, 1 Int, 5 Passes Defensed, 1 Forced Fumble.

2) Kevin Reddick - Round 2
Best Season: (2012) 85 Tackles, 19 For loss, 7 Sacks, 6 Passes Defensed, 2 Forced Fumbles.

3) Bruce Taylor - Round 4
Best Season: (2010) 91 Tackles, 16 For Loss, 6 Sacks, 4 Passes Defensed.

4) Jon Bostic - Round 4
Best Season: (2011) 94 Tackles, 10 For Loss, 3 Sacks, 2 Passes Defensed, 1 Forced Fumble.

5) AJ Klein - Round 5
Best Season: (2011) 117 Tackles, 8 For Loss, 2 Sacks, 1 Int, 6 Passes Defensed.

6) Nico Johnson - Round 6
Best Season: (2011) 46 Tackles, 7 For Loss, 1 Sack, 1 Int, 3 Passes Defensed, 1 Forced Fumble.
I am so bummed that Andrew Jackson stayed in school. Dangit.
I think the top 3 players in the 1st around #28 in terms of need are
ILB Kevin Minter
CB Xavier Rhodes
DT Kawan Short
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I am so bummed that Andrew Jackson stayed in school. Dangit.
I think the top 3 players in the 1st around #28 in terms of need are
ILB Kevin Minter
CB Xavier Rhodes
DT Kawan Short
I like all three of those players.

I think Rhodes goes before we pick though. Right now I have him going to Minnesota. They will sign a FA WR, and once Keenan Allen goes to the Dolphins, their CB need and BPA match up. I think Milliner goes to Tennessee at 10, Banks goes to TB at 12 (unless Logan Ryan really shoots up). And then Rhodes to the Vikes at 23. I have NE taking Ryan at the end of the first. He's a phenominal CB prospect, and should move up. If we can get him, that would be great. Can't imagine Amerson, Poyer, Trufant, or Davis crack the 1st Round. So, it's a decent drop after Ryan.

I'm having a hard time believing the current draft projection of Short. He's been one of the most productive and unstoppable DTs in college for several years now. He had the best season of all the Division 1 DTs this year. He has ideal size and is scheme diverse, and Purdue D-linemen always excel in the NFL. I think he goes to Carolina at 13. I think it's ridiculous he's being overlooked right now behind Richardson, Hankins, and others. If he's available when we pick, he would be my favorite option even though we don't use a specific DT more than 50% of the game.

With Baltimore picking behind us now, it greatly increases our odds of landing Minter. MLB isn't a glamourous draft position, and they generally fall a bit more than expected. If the Steelers take Te'o, and the Bengals take Ogletree, we should be in the clear. And there's always a chance Reddick moves into the late 1st as well as a consideration even if Minter is gone.


I think the best prospects at certain positions we may be interested in left at pick 28 will be:

WR: Terrance Williams
RB: Giovani Bernard
OG: Barrett Jones
DE: Alex Okafor
DT: Sylvester Williams
LB: Kevin Minter
CB: Logan Ryan
S: Eric Reid

And I would rank them in preference as:

1) Minter
2) Reid
3) Ryan
4) T. Williams
5) S. Williams
6) Jones
7) Okafor
8) Bernard
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I like all three of those players.

I think Rhodes goes before we pick though. Right now I have him going to Minnesota. They will sign a FA WR, and once Keenan Allen goes to the Dolphins, their CB need and BPA match up. I think Milliner goes to Tennessee at 10, Banks goes to TB at 12 (unless Logan Ryan really shoots up). And then Rhodes to the Vikes at 23. I have NE taking Ryan at the end of the first. He's a phenominal CB prospect, and should move up. If we can get him, that would be great. Can't imagine Amerson, Poyer, Trufant, or Davis crack the 1st Round. So, it's a decent drop after Ryan.

I'm having a hard time believing the current draft projection of Short. He's been one of the most productive and unstoppable DTs in college for several years now. He had the best season of all the Division 1 DTs this year. He has ideal size and is scheme diverse, and Purdue D-linemen always excel in the NFL. I think he goes to Carolina at 13. I think it's ridiculous he's being overlooked right now behind Richardson, Hankins, and others. If he's available when we pick, he would be my favorite option even though we don't use a specific DT more than 50% of the game.

With Baltimore picking behind us now, it greatly increases our odds of landing Minter. MLB isn't a glamourous draft position, and they generally fall a bit more than expected. If the Steelers take Te'o, and the Bengals take Ogletree, we should be in the clear. And there's always a chance Reddick moves into the late 1st as well as a consideration even if Minter is gone.


I think the best prospects at certain positions we may be interested in left at pick 28 will be:

WR: Terrance Williams
RB: Giovani Bernard
OG: Barrett Jones
DE: Alex Okafor
DT: Sylvester Williams
LB: Kevin Minter
CB: Logan Ryan
S: Eric Reid

And I would rank them in preference as:

1) Minter
2) Reid
3) Ryan
4) T. Williams
5) S. Williams
6) Jones
7) Okafor
8) Bernard
Agreed. Love it. I do think CB Jordan Poyer ORE ST needs to be thrown in there.
And i guess now that BALT is behind us, DEN could have the inside track to him. I also dont like the situation in MIN. They do have a bit of an issue with the MLB position, and injuries, and i have seen some mocks with them taking Minter at #23. As usual, DEN is in the twilight zone around 24 to 28 in the draft again.
I am really, really starting to like Xavier Rhodes.
This guy has a TON of upside, and could really be a steal.
If DEN traded up to get him, a bit, i would not freak at all. But they better address MLB either in FA/trade or the 2nd round.
I think Eric Reid goes in the top of the 2nd, but if he has a really good combine, watch out. Same for Phillip Thomas, whos apparently no longer off everyones radar.

Some good info on Rhodes.
http://www.footballoutsiders.com/fut...-xavier-rhodes
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Yeah, but Houston has a lot bigger issues than an ILB. Cushing will be back healthy in one of the roles as well.

I mean, they are talking about cutting Antonio Smith due to his contract, and Shaun Cody is a Free Agent. They could go either 5 tech or NT. A lot of the DT prospects could play both, and at least one should slip out of Richardson, Hankins, and Short. John Jenkins and Jesse Williams could be in play as well.

Connor Barwin was terrible last year and he's a free agent. Mercilus is developing, which is good, but Brooks Reed isn't overly impressive on the other side. They could take a rush LB, like Dion Jordan, if he slips due to his surgery.

SS Glover Quin is a Free Agent. And their safety play overall struggled this year. Matt Elam, Eric Reid, or even Phillip Thomas might look real enticing.

Their O-line is terribad on the right side and really hurt their running game at times this year.

And their WR situation remains poor. Especially now that Posey might miss next year.

I would put a TED LB below all of those needs. And they do have some talented depth there in Darryl Sharpton.
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What about Matt Elam?
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What about Matt Elam?
I have him going before we select. Most recently, to Houston the selection in front of ours. He has to get past St. Louis first though even for that to happen. I don't believe we'll have a shot at either Vaccaro or Elam without a trade up unless they really suck at the Combine.
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I have him going before we select. Most recently, to Houston the selection in front of ours. He has to get past St. Louis first though even for that to happen. I don't believe we'll have a shot at either Vaccaro or Elam without a trade up unless they really suck at the Combine.
Yeah, I see him as a real playmaker, and a leader...something the Broncos sorely need at Safety.

I think the Broncos best bet is to resign Brooking, restructure DJ, sign an FA Defensive Lineman (at either DT, or DE), move Champ to SS, and use a 4th rounder to move up in the 1st to draft the best CB they can.

Tony Carter should not be on the field at the end of games. He makes too many mental errors.

I'm not worried about Rahim Moore. He'll learn and grow. Flacco's ball sailed, and Moore's jump was 6 inches short. Carter was walking (and giving minimal effort).

Let Champ have the responsibility of stopping TE's (which the Broncos so desperately need).
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