Fix the national deficit

[Chris]

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...l?ref=politics

Fix the national deficit.

[tsiguy96]

a. expanding the military is costing hundreds of billions of dollars
b. super rich dont need more tax breaks

[OABB]

tax the rich. done.

[Smiling Assassin27]

Originally Posted by OABB

tax the rich. done.

Vague, nebulous, and ineffective attempt at social engineering...perfect for a government operation.

[OABB]

Originally Posted by Smiling Assassin27

Vague, nebulous, and ineffective attempt at social engineering...perfect for a government operation.

not vague at all.


TAX. THE. RICH.

[tsiguy96]

Originally Posted by Smiling Assassin27

Vague, nebulous, and ineffective attempt at social engineering...perfect for a government operation.

so the bottom 99% should have to suffer trying to compensate for a deficit taht was put in place essentially when they STOPPED taxing the super rich? how can someone argue that not taxing them more than those of us who barely survive is a bad idea? in a time when the super rich are just pocketing more money instead of creating jobs with it, you can really justify not taxing them more, rather they should get MORE money than they already have?

[SonOfLe-loLang]

Its actually not that difficult. If you let the bush tax cuts expire, implemented the ACA (with excise tax) and cap both defense and non defense discretionary, you should technically be there...but well, i suppose thats easier said than done

[Smiling Assassin27]

Originally Posted by OABB

not vague at all.


TAX. THE. RICH.

Define 'RICH'. Define 'TAX'. Define 'THE'

Sincerely,

Bill Clinton

[SonOfLe-loLang]

Originally Posted by tsiguy96

so the bottom 99% should have to suffer trying to compensate for a deficit taht was put in place essentially when they STOPPED taxing the super rich? how can someone argue that not taxing them more than those of us who barely survive is a bad idea? in a time when the super rich are just pocketing more money instead of creating jobs with it, you can really justify not taxing them more, rather they should get MORE money than they already have?

its the great paradox of american society. We have stockholm syndrome towards the rich for some reason.

[Smiling Assassin27]

I found it easy as well.

Tackle entitlements, size of government, defense spending, and keep taxes low for everyone. Return government to its originally delegated responsibilities and you can get there.

[Smiling Assassin27]

Originally Posted by SonOfLe-loLang

its the great paradox of american society. We have stockholm syndrome towards the rich for some reason.

you're thinking with your cosmic justice gene.

[Inkana7]

Originally Posted by Smiling Assassin27

I found it easy as well.

Tackle entitlements, size of government, defense spending, and keep taxes low for everyone. Return government to its originally delegated responsibilities and you can get there.

1803 was a fine year.

[Garcia Bronco]

Originally Posted by OABB

tax the rich. done.

Taxing "the rich" at 100 percent still wouldn't begin to tackle the problem. Until we seriously tackle defense spending health spending (medicare, medicaid, VA, CHiP, and Obamacare) it matters little. It's not the money coming in that's the problem; ITS THE SPENDING.

[Garcia Bronco]

Originally Posted by Inkana7

1803 was a fine year.

Not financially: See the LA Purchase.

[Garcia Bronco]

Originally Posted by tsiguy96

so the bottom 99% should have to suffer trying to compensate for a deficit taht was put in place essentially when they STOPPED taxing the super rich? how can someone argue that not taxing them more than those of us who barely survive is a bad idea? in a time when the super rich are just pocketing more money instead of creating jobs with it, you can really justify not taxing them more, rather they should get MORE money than they already have?

This country has always ran at a deficit except for one time when Jackson let the Second National Bank charter expire and paid off the national debt. He is the only President to ever do so.

[Garcia Bronco]

Originally Posted by SonOfLe-loLang

Its actually not that difficult. If you let the bush tax cuts expire, implemented the ACA (with excise tax) and cap both defense and non defense discretionary, you should technically be there...but well, i suppose thats easier said than done

If the Bush tax cuts expire then the tax burden on every American go up. George Bush is the only modern era President to lower taxes for 100 percent of the tax paying public. The answer here isn't to raise taxes but to remove ALL deductions and loop holes and make every Citizen, non-charity, and Business pay 10 percent. Strip the tax code clean and cut the IRS to nothing in the process.

[sirhcyennek81]

Originally Posted by tsiguy96

a. expanding the military is costing hundreds of billions of dollars
b. super rich dont need more tax breaks

Congress has a responsibility to create and fund an army and a navy. They do not need to fund entitlement programs, which cost more per year than anything military related.

Everyone needs a tax break. Lowering taxes for everybody wont kill anything. In fact, you lower taxes on businesses, they grow...which hires more people.

[Garcia Bronco]

Originally Posted by sirhcyennek81

Congress has a responsibility to create and fund an army and a navy. They do not need to fund entitlement programs, which cost more per year than anything military related.

This is a fact; although defense spending is right up there with total health and human services spending.

[bowtown]

Originally Posted by sirhcyennek81

Congress has a responsibility to create and fund an army and a navy.

I have yet to hear even the most liberal in this country declare that we should not create and fund an army and a navy.

[rugbythug]

It is hillarious to think that the super rich will hold still while you take all of there money.

You can shear a sheep many times you can skin them only once.

[sirhcyennek81]

Originally Posted by bowtown

I have yet to hear even the most liberal in this country declare that we should not create and fund an army and a navy.

This is a joke, right?

[SonOfLe-loLang]

Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

If the Bush tax cuts expire then the tax burden on every American go up. George Bush is the only modern era President to lower taxes for 100 percent of the tax paying public. The answer here isn't to raise taxes but to remove ALL deductions and loop holes and make every Citizen, non-charity, and Business pay 10 percent. Strip the tax code clean and cut the IRS to nothing in the process.

I agree that the tax code needs to be redone, but if you let the bush tax cuts expire for the just the top percent (which is what the plan was), it'll create some revenue without touching the middle class tax rate (which is essentially what the ryan budget would do...though i think that budget was really just made for confrontation rather than implementation).

[tsiguy96]

Originally Posted by rugbythug

It is hillarious to think that the super rich will hold still while you take all of there money.

You can shear a sheep many times you can skin them only once.

yea thats a good argument. thats it everyone, lets just cut their taxes to zero, or they might leave!

[DrFate]

Because rich people don't pay taxes...

People are so dumb

[SonOfLe-loLang]

Originally Posted by DrFate

Because rich people don't pay taxes...

People are so dumb

Theres that too Well corporations dont at least.