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Old 03-17-2011, 08:41 PM   #1
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Default Patrick Peterson scores single digits on Wonderlic.

PFW has had a lot of great articles coming up as the draft approaches and this one caught my eye. Not that the Wonderlic means that much, but it is a tool used by teams to assess the mental/intellectual abilities of prospects.

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"Peterson plays like a low-test guy," one NFL decision maker told PFW on the condition he remain anonymous, "but (if) he's in 'cat' (man-to-man) coverage in the NFL, it's not as big of an issue as it will be for offensive guys."

"He's a press corner," another longtime evaluator said. "His strong suit is that he can run and press. He won't play for the Patriots, where he's disguising coverage after coverage, but I still think he can be a No. 1 shutdown corner."
I'm still not too worried about this. There were a lot of posters on this board who deemed Clady TSTP (Too Stupid To Play) because he scored very low as well, but we all know how he turned out.
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Old 03-17-2011, 08:52 PM   #2
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A single-digit wonderlic score is a red flag..........and anyone who says it's not has been smoking Baja's socks.
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Single digit Wonderlic = illiteracy.
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I literally laughed outloud when I read this.
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A scout with deep knowledge of the kid said, "The more I'm around him, the more I love him even more. I love the kid, and I love the talent. But I don't like the way he plays with his back to the ball. He has an instinct issue, and I think it's tied to his mental (ability). He can only handle so much. He's not a quick processor. It's a scary year to be drafting in the top 10 because they all have some issue."

You mean like every year about this time? You spend enough time trying to pick these kids apart, of course you are going to come up with issues. It's like they are running for political office.
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Jake Locker 20
Cam Newton 21
Ryan Mallett 26
Blaine Gabbert 42

20 on the Wonderlic scale is considered the bare minimum to play quarterback in the NFL.

Exceptions to the rule Dan Marino and Jim Kelly's scored a 15
Jamarcus Russell got a 24

http://www.sbnation.com/2011-nfl-dra...core-nfl-draft
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Single digit Wonderlic = illiteracy.
Dos Prick peatersom smart as patone hillas?
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I read mixed reports that Deion Super Prime Time Sanders scored between 7 and 13.

Seriously it's a DB not a QB. how smart does he need to be

40 > wonderlic
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don't want him now not at #2
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Hillis had a 17...... see the attached document

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I think it's a red flag, and I liked Peterson at #2. Doesn't mean he's not going to work out for whoever drafts him. But it's a red flag.
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Vince Young was a single-digit guy with a 6........ that's pretty close to a pet rock.
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I read mixed reports that Deion Super Prime Time Sanders scored between 7 and 13.

Seriously it's a DB not a QB. how smart does he need to be

40 > wonderlic

I've seen several NFL players succeed who were obviously dumb. Like LaDanian Thomlinson. I would have really loved to have the guy on the Broncos, but he's dumber than a bag of rocks.
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Does the article actually mention the single digit score or what?


I just read an opinion in that excerpt, nothing more.

EDIT: Duh, clicking and reading link owns me.
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Vince Young was a single-digit guy with a 6........ that's pretty close to a pet rock.
Well, yeah. Look how that turned out. He is supposed to be a QB though.
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I've seen several NFL players succeed who were obviously dumb. Like LaDanian Thomlinson. I would have really loved to have the guy on the Broncos, but he's dumber than a bag of rocks.
Running backs can get away with that but corner is another story. Half of Champs game is mental.
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Does the article actually mention the single digit score or what?


I just read an opinion in that excerpt, nothing more.
"Peterson was one of four prospects who recorded a dreaded single-digit score, which NFL teams often equate with getting their name right, tying with South Carolina's Chris Culliver for the lowest mark among all defensive backs as both correctly answered only nine questions on the 12-minute, 50-question test."

Is all I see.
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Running backs can get away with that but corner is another story. Half of Champs game is mental.
True. I'd say more than half. A lot of these guys can run fast but if they can't figure out where they are supposed to be they aren't going to be able to play at an elite level.
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Yeah -- but what about the killer instinct?

Can Wonderlic measure that?
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Yeah -- but what about the killer instinct?

Can Wonderlic measure that?
You can be a raging inferno 12 yards away from the ball and nobody gives a ****.
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Does the article actually mention the single digit score or what?


I just read an opinion in that excerpt, nothing more.

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Yeah but it's weird because there's this:

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Peterson was one of four prospects who recorded a dreaded single-digit score, which NFL teams often equate with getting their name right, tying with South Carolina's Chris Culliver for the lowest mark among all defensive backs as both correctly answered only nine questions on the 12-minute, 50-question test.
But then there's also this:

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Florida OT Carl Johnson produced the worst score among this draft class, registering a 6, and Oklahoma RB Kendall Hunter was the only other athlete to record a single digit, scoring a 9.
So which is it? Did they mean to add offensive to the second quote?
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Yeah -- but what about the killer instinct?

Can Wonderlic measure that?
He's a corner back he needs brains to do his job at a high level. Get Mongo to play linebacker.
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Guess that makes Dareus the "cleanest" prospect in the draft....
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He's a corner back he needs brains to do his job at a high level. Get Mongo to play linebacker.
Totally disagree. LBs need to be some of the smartest on the field, especially Mikes.
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Old 03-17-2011, 09:29 PM   #25
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IQ exams are a lousy predictor of success, even outside the world of pro sports. The only consistant predictive correlation I can find with the Wonderlic to on-field performance is that there is no correlation to on-field performance. Someone mentioned literacy...I would bet that's the issue. Lots of these guys don't read well when they get to college and the team's do little about it. Some team drafting in the 2nd five is already salivating at the possibility he drops to them.
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