UN Announces No Fly Zone Over Libya - The Orange Mane

Rohirrim · 03-17-2011, 04:41 PM

Just announced. UN Security Council passed no fly zone in a 10 to 0 vote. Expect bombing of air defense sites to begin soon.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42124388...deastn_africa/

LonghornBronco · 03-17-2011, 04:47 PM

Smiling Assassin27 · 03-17-2011, 04:48 PM

They are prepping Charlie Sheen as we speak.

kappys · 03-17-2011, 04:53 PM

Obviously this is Obama's fault - just waiting for Epic to explain it to me

Rohirrim · 03-17-2011, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by kappys

Obviously this is Obama's fault - just waiting for Epic to explain it to me

Obama was moving too slow.

Now, he's moving too fast.

They're waiting for him to move just right.

Like Goldilocks.

03-17-2011, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by kappys

Obviously this is Obama's fault - just waiting for Epic to explain it to me

Of course it's Obama's fault. No wait we should balme Bush. Actually lets blame FDR I think he ruined the Middle East

Inkana7 · 03-17-2011, 05:29 PM

Not that I agree with this, but I'm a military aviation nut, so I can't want to see Libya's Mirages and MiG-23s get blasted out of the sky by Raptors they didn't-and never will-see.

Vegas_Bronco · 03-17-2011, 05:36 PM

Bout time...just think of this as your own warning...our govt wont come to your aid until it appears you've lost the battle for democracy. What a contradiction in logic.

cutthemdown · 03-17-2011, 06:34 PM

The only questions people asked were why the USA did not lead the effort, and why it took so long. There is a chance it is too little too late. Gaddaffi may just use tanks now instead of jets. One report said that he went all out with the airstrikes to get done what needed to be done prior to a no fly zone.

Hell maybe we wanted a bunch of the hardcore rebels to die before we entered. I am open minded because I used same logic to defend Bush. For all we know Obama a friggin Genius for playing it this way. We have no idea because we don't get CIA briefings. They may have told Obama look let it break down some more, some really bad guys are being killed right now. Guys who want to take Libya over when Gaddaffi falls. Let them be weakened a bit before we act.

I'm not defending the lack luster approach, only asking people to understand Obama gets 100 times more information then we do.

It sort of looks like maybe France wanted to take the lead to send a message, and USA let them. Not a bad idea considering Libya more there problem regionally then ours.

I'm starting to come around to the way Obama slow played this hand. I think it is important that even if we don't like the President we take the time to look at all the angles that may be presented, and be big enough to say maybe I called him a p***Y on this topic a tad to quick.

Rock Chalk · 03-17-2011, 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vegas_Bronco

Bout time...just think of this as your own warning...our govt wont come to your aid until it appears you've lost the battle for democracy. What a contradiction in logic.

Im a firm believer that those that want freedom should, at first, begin the fight themselves. We can help, but they have to initiate it and we should only help if, without our help, their fight will fail.

That's how our revolution was. We started the fight, and suffered many setbacks and sacrificed a great deal before teh French came to help and without their help we would have failed.

cutthemdown · 03-17-2011, 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inkana7

Not that I agree with this, but I'm a military aviation nut, so I can't want to see Libya's Mirages and MiG-23s get blasted out of the sky by Raptors they didn't-and never will-see.

It Gaddaffi decides to go out with a bang maybe he attacks outside of Libya. He would fail IMO but you never know.

Cmac821 · 03-17-2011, 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rock Chalk

Im a firm believer that those that want freedom should, at first, begin the fight themselves. We can help, but they have to initiate it and we should only help if, without our help, their fight will fail.

That's how our revolution was. We started the fight, and suffered many setbacks and sacrificed a great deal before teh French came to help and without their help we would have failed.

We are AmeriCAN we didn't need the french

(despite not being America yet, oh well. This no place for facts)

Rock Chalk · 03-17-2011, 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cmac821

We are AmeriCAN we don't need the french

We did in the late 1700s.

Im no fan of teh Frog's but credit where credit is due. Without their Navy the filthy Redcoats would have overwhelmed us.

Cmac821 · 03-17-2011, 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rock Chalk

We did in the late 1700s.

Im no fan of teh Frog's but credit where credit is due. Without their Navy the filthy Redcoats would have overwhelmed us.

I will grant you we were not America yet but no way did "they" help (sarcasm if you missed it)

Archer81 · 03-17-2011, 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rock Chalk

That's how our revolution was. We started the fight, and suffered many setbacks and sacrificed a great deal before teh French came to help and without their help we would have failed.

Pretty much once it was obvious war was going to happen, we sent emissaries to the french. It took proving we could win on our own to secure french aid.

Rock Chalk · 03-17-2011, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by sirhcyennek81

Pretty much once it was obvious war was going to happen, we sent emissaries to the french. It took proving we could win on our own to secure french aid.

Well duh, you know the French aren't going to get into a war voluntarily

listopencil · 03-17-2011, 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vegas_Bronco

Bout time...just think of this as your own warning...our govt wont come to your aid until it appears you've lost the battle for democracy. What a contradiction in logic.

That's the way it should be. C'mon. We barely trust these idiots and a-holes to run our own country, much less jump into the politics of another one unless the situation is crystal clear.

bombay · 03-17-2011, 06:47 PM

It's about time we help those people!

Archer81 · 03-17-2011, 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rock Chalk

Well duh, you know the French aren't going to get into a war voluntarily

True.

NUB · 03-17-2011, 07:29 PM

It's a cute resolution. Now they just need a no tank and artillery zone.

Chris · 03-17-2011, 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sirhcyennek81

Pretty much once it was obvious war was going to happen, we sent emissaries to the french. It took proving we could win on our own to secure french aid.

Come on... we loved the French for over 100 years after. Lafayette was the Michael Jackson of his day.

oubronco · 03-17-2011, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris

Come on... we loved the French for over 100 years after. Lafayette was the Michael Jackson of his day.

I love French Fries and French Toast

Kaylore · 03-17-2011, 07:59 PM

If they were going to do this, they should have done it a week ago. Typical UN. Sit on your ass debating when you should move and then moving when it's too late. This is why the UN is borderline irrelevant.

Requiem · 03-17-2011, 08:00 PM

Kaylore making international relations calls. Lame.

Kaylore · 03-17-2011, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Lahey

Kaylore making international relations calls. Lame.

Your mom's lame.

Oh SNAPPP!

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Vegas_Bronco Ring of Famer Fear is a lack of preparation. Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Now 64 Yards Out Posts: 4,714 Adopt-a-Bronco: 1 Elam 1	Bout time...just think of this as your own warning...our govt wont come to your aid until it appears you've lost the battle for democracy. What a contradiction in logic.

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cutthemdown A verbis ad verbera Zimm to HOF Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Long Beach Posts: 34,003	The only questions people asked were why the USA did not lead the effort, and why it took so long. There is a chance it is too little too late. Gaddaffi may just use tanks now instead of jets. One report said that he went all out with the airstrikes to get done what needed to be done prior to a no fly zone. Hell maybe we wanted a bunch of the hardcore rebels to die before we entered. I am open minded because I used same logic to defend Bush. For all we know Obama a friggin Genius for playing it this way. We have no idea because we don't get CIA briefings. They may have told Obama look let it break down some more, some really bad guys are being killed right now. Guys who want to take Libya over when Gaddaffi falls. Let them be weakened a bit before we act. I'm not defending the lack luster approach, only asking people to understand Obama gets 100 times more information then we do. It sort of looks like maybe France wanted to take the lead to send a message, and USA let them. Not a bad idea considering Libya more there problem regionally then ours. I'm starting to come around to the way Obama slow played this hand. I think it is important that even if we don't like the President we take the time to look at all the angles that may be presented, and be big enough to say maybe I called him a p***Y on this topic a tad to quick.

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bombay Ring of Famer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: denver Posts: 4,814	It's about time we help those people!

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NUB Just Crafted New to the Forum Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,517 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	It's a cute resolution. Now they just need a no tank and artillery zone.

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