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Old 03-16-2011, 11:41 AM   #1
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Anyone have access to Insider on ESPN.com? McShay's Mock Draft is nuts....has Dareus going #1, Von Miller to us. No Bowers, Fairley, or Peterson in the top 5.

http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft...dMcShayMock4.0

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Old 03-16-2011, 11:47 AM   #2
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If the Broncos select Von Miller at #2 overall, i will probably boycott them for a while. Would be an absolutely dreadful pick... He wasn't even considered a lock 1st rounder before the Senior Bowl took place. Where he went against the weakest o-line draft class in some time.
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Old 03-16-2011, 11:47 AM   #3
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I think you may have typed your statement wrong.

You typed "McShay's Mock Draft is nuts"
did you mean......
"McShays is nuts when it comes to Mock Drafts"?
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Old 03-16-2011, 11:48 AM   #4
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Bowers has been falling because of the knee issues. most people and teams agree, taking a CB in the top 5 is ridiculous and Fairley has been all over the top 10 simply because he was soundly outperformed in the combine drills buy a guy around 20lbs heavier and more pro ready than he is. also the character issues are brought up with him.
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McShay Mock Draft = Sporting News Mock Draft for biggest POS on the net.
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Old 03-16-2011, 12:07 PM   #6
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Denver picks:
1st round (#2): Von Miller, OLB, Texas A&M
2nd round (#36): DT Jurrell Casey, USC
2nd round (#46). DS Rahim Moore, UCLA
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Old 03-16-2011, 12:08 PM   #7
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Denver picks:
1st round (#2): Von Miller, OLB, Texas A&M
2nd round (#36): DT Jurrell Casey, USC
2nd round (#46). DS Rahim Moore, UCLA
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Old 03-16-2011, 12:08 PM   #8
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At least he went defense with the picks.
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Old 03-16-2011, 12:09 PM   #9
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I puke on that draft!
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Von Miller's value is strictly as a 3-4 rush linebacker, which we no longer play (alegedly) so this makes no sense! If we were still playing 3-4 and didn't have the 08 NFL sack leader then maybe Miller at #2 sounds reasonable but good god somebody bring McShay back to reality...
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Old 03-16-2011, 12:26 PM   #11
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Mike Mayock also has Von Miller as the #2 player on HIS board (not a mock draft)....just sayin'.

I think Mayock is pretty highly regarded.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/story/09000...p-32-prospects
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Old 03-16-2011, 12:29 PM   #12
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If we take Von Miller with the #2 pick the NFL needs to make John Elway pee in a paper cup.
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Old 03-16-2011, 12:38 PM   #13
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Gabbert
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Dareus

Imo will end up being top 5. So that leaves Peterson Miller Fairley Green for 4-6
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Old 03-16-2011, 12:47 PM   #14
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Von Miller's value is strictly as a 3-4 rush linebacker, which we no longer play (alegedly) so this makes no sense! If we were still playing 3-4 and didn't have the 08 NFL sack leader then maybe Miller at #2 sounds reasonable but good god somebody bring McShay back to reality...
i disagree with that line of thinking. a team can never have too many good pass rushers. Doom can be neutralized. look at 2009. he had 10 of his 17 sacks by the end of week 6 and then only 7 the remaining 10 games that year inclunding only 2 over the last 4 weeks of the season.

give him help in the form of a guy who can also get to the QB and his totals will be more evenly spread out and he would get to the QB on a more regular basis. also, Miller doesn't have to be only a 3-4 LB to be effective. look at the Ravens and how they used Suggs and Peterson out of the 4-3. Miller could do that from the strong side in a 4-3 and be paired with Doom. that is a scary combo, especially if Ayers can return to form playing in his natural position.

look at the Giants from a few years ago. they beat an undefeated team in the super bowl with that very philosophy. they drafted so many pass rushers that New England couldn't stop them all.

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Old 03-16-2011, 01:03 PM   #15
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i disagree with that line of thinking. a team can never have too many good pass rushers. Doom can be neutralized. look at 2009. he had 10 of his 17 sacks by the end of week 6 and then only 7 the remaining 10 games that year inclunding only 2 over the last 4 weeks of the season.

give him help in the form of a guy who can also get to the QB and his totals will be more evenly spread out and he would get to the QB on a more regular basis. also, Miller doesn't have to be only a 3-4 LB to be effective. look at the Ravens and how they used Suggs and Peterson out of the 4-3. Miller could do that from the strong side in a 4-3 and be paired with Doom. that is a scary combo, especially if Ayers can return to form playing in his natural position.

look at the Giants from a few years ago. they beat an undefeated team in the super bowl with that very philosophy. they drafted so many pass rushers that New England couldn't stop them all.
I agree completely. Play him with his hand on the ground in pass situations - which is most of the time nowadays and as a SLB on run downs. I think there is a misconception about how often he dropped in coverage at A&M and he has shown that he can do that successfully at the Senior Bowl and has shown the requisite physical skills in drills as well. With the depth at DL in this draft, we can still go there in Round 2.
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Old 03-16-2011, 01:15 PM   #16
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If we take Von Miller with the #2 pick the NFL needs to make John Elway pee in a paper cup and drink it.
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Mike Mayock also has Von Miller as the #2 player on HIS board (not a mock draft)....just sayin'.

I think Mayock is pretty highly regarded.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/story/09000...p-32-prospects
Was. He hit some homeruns out of the park several years ago by swimming upstream for a few players others didn't regard as highly.

It's becoming habit for him and making him foolish more often than not the past few years.
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Was. He hit some homeruns out of the park several years ago by swimming upstream for a few players others didn't regard as highly.

It's becoming habit for him and making him foolish more often than not the past few years.
Finally, someone else notices that Mayock loves being a contrarian for the sake of being one.

But i do really like Von Miller and if denver drafted him, he'd be a jack of all trades kind of guy and, hopefully, a master of all
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Finally, someone else notices that Mayock loves being a contrarian for the sake of being one.

But i do really like Von Miller and if denver drafted him, he'd be a jack of all trades kind of guy and, hopefully, a master of all


Mcshay or mayock?
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Old 03-16-2011, 02:04 PM   #22
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We've got gaps at both parts of the front seven. Von Miller wouldn't be too much of a surprise.
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If the Broncos select Von Miller at #2 overall, i will probably boycott them for a while. Would be an absolutely dreadful pick... He wasn't even considered a lock 1st rounder before the Senior Bowl took place. Where he went against the weakest o-line draft class in some time.
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Old 03-16-2011, 02:06 PM   #24
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If its not Darius or Peterson or trade down, I'll be pissed.
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Miller would only be a bad pick if our coaching staff lacks imagination. But if they are willing to think outside of the box, Miller could be moster for us even in the 4-3. If you're looking for a template, look at the way the Ravens used Suggs in the 4-3 in past seasons or the Seahawks/49ers used Julian Peterson. If he is just going to be a traditional 4-3 WILL, then yeah, it would be a reach. If they take him that high, I think we can rest assured they have bigger plans for him than that.
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