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Old 03-06-2011, 10:19 AM   #1
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Old 03-06-2011, 11:51 AM   #2
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The guy makes more than 90% of the CEOs in the country. I would like to know how many people on his staff have 100% medical and full pension benefits. I am kind of thinking he has a lot of nonpaid interns on his set.
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The guy makes more than 90% of the CEOs in the country. I would like to know how many people on his staff have 100% medical and full pension benefits. I am kind of thinking he has a lot of nonpaid interns on his set.
I would bet just about everyone involved in the production of that show (and any show on TV) are in some sort of union.
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Old 03-07-2011, 11:16 AM   #4
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I would bet just about everyone involved in the production of that show (and any show on TV) are in some sort of union.
Except those intern slaves. But even if they are in a union how many have full ride pensions and medical. I bet zero.
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The guy makes more than 90% of the CEOs in the country. I would like to know how many people on his staff have 100% medical and full pension benefits. I am kind of thinking he has a lot of nonpaid interns on his set.

Stewart only makes a tiny fraction of the CEOs being talked about in that video (CEOs of majjor financial institutions). According to answers.com he makes 1.5m/y from his work on The Daily Show. Taking a look at 2009 compensation for major financial institutions they range between 10m and 40m. No one complains about the CEO of your local bank who make reasonable pay -- just these dead weight MBAs.

Also, Stewart is the main reason that show is successful vs. these "top talent" CEOs who did nothing but lead their companies and this country to financial disaster by making stupid decisions like allowing 50-500:1 leveraging ratios to boost their stock option value.
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Stewart only makes a tiny fraction of the CEOs being talked about in that video (CEOs of majjor financial institutions). According to answers.com he makes 1.5m/y from his work on The Daily Show. Taking a look at 2009 compensation for major financial institutions they range between 10m and 40m. No one complains about the CEO of your local bank who make reasonable pay -- just these dead weight MBAs.

Also, Stewart is the main reason that show is successful vs. these "top talent" CEOs who did nothing but lead their companies and this country to financial disaster by making stupid decisions like allowing 50-500:1 leveraging ratios to boost their stock option value.
If you think Stewart only banks 1.5m a year then there really is no help for you.

If you think most CEO's make between 10m and 40m then there really is no help for you. There are tens of thousand of companies and a few wall street firms are not representative of CEO pay.
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Old 03-07-2011, 01:46 PM   #7
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It's too bad CEO salaries aren't compensated like Jon Stewart. If he fails he loses his job.
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Old 03-07-2011, 02:20 PM   #8
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If you think Stewart only banks 1.5m a year then there really is no help for you.

If you think most CEO's make between 10m and 40m then there really is no help for you. There are tens of thousand of companies and a few wall street firms are not representative of CEO pay.
Are you able to see anything through those fox colored glasses? I suppose you're gonna tell us that most ceo's deserve the outlandish amounts of money thrown at them. I guess they can be happy they have some of us fooled.
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If you think Stewart only banks 1.5m a year then there really is no help for you.
Stewart banks a LOT more than that -- from book deals and other work he does. Google shows a multitude of sources stating his salary from TDS is 1.5m. A lot for sure -- but again he's the primary reason that show is a success. Before he joined it was crap.

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If you think most CEO's make between 10m and 40m then there really is no help for you. There are tens of thousand of companies and a few wall street firms are not representative of CEO pay.
Wow you do love your straw men. I never claimed *most* CEOs make that much. I explicity state that we're talking about the CEOs of major financial institutions.

If you aren't willy to participate honestly -- don't participate.

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Old 03-07-2011, 02:52 PM   #10
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Wow you do love your straw men. I never claimed *most* CEOs make that much. I explicity state that we're talking about the CEOs of major financial institutions.

If you aren't willy to participate honestly -- don't participate.
But I did. I said Stewart makes more cabbage than 90% of the CEOs in the country. You point out the blipping obvious that there are a few that make more than him. Well no ****.

CEO's of major financial institutions make more than just about anyone, always have and always will. No one will ever know if they are worth it or not. The market determines that and it says they are.

And don't call me willy.
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But I did. I said Stewart makes more cabbage than 90% of the CEOs in the country. You point out the blipping obvious that there are a few that make more than him. Well no ****.
To which my reply was Stewart was lampooning the ones that do make 8 figures (despite being abysmal failures). Try to keep up, hmmm?
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To which my reply was Stewart was lampooning the ones that do make 8 figures (despite being abysmal failures). Try to keep up, hmmm?
The guy likely makes 8 figures himself and is in the top 0.1% of all the folks in the nation and easily in the top 10% of CEOs. He might as well be lampooning himself which was precisely my point. The catching up is all yours my friend.

What did your research uncover about what his workers are making and what their benefits are? How many unpaid interns does he have?
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The guy likely makes 8 figures himself and is in the top 0.1% of all the folks in the nation and easily in the top 10% of CEOs. He might as well be lampooning himself which was precisely my point. The catching up is all yours my friend.
He makes 1.5m as part of The Daily Show. He's actually underpaid with respect to his peers.

He does make 8 figures when you tally up the proceeds from his other (non Daily Show) ventures but that's neither here nor there.

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Don't know, don't care. It seems you are not clear on what is being lampooned here. Have you watched the video?
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He might as well be lampooning himself which was precisely my point.
Why should he be lampooning himself? Where are Stewart's failures in his current job? Stewart is doing his job quite well, those he's talking about often aren't. What part of this are you failing to grasp?
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Why should he be lampooning himself? Where are Stewart's failures in his current job? Stewart is doing his job quite well, those he's talking about often aren't. What part of this are you failing to grasp?
What part of I make 10m a year and don't pay my employees **** so I am pretty much just like the guys on wall street don't you understand?

The guy barely outdraws Conan, the most unfunny comedian in television history.
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Jon just re-upped with Com Cent in 2009 for a undisclosed amount , as did Colbert.

The 1.5 million figure that keeps being floated as what he makes is what he made but is from a contract signed 8 years ago and not really a current number.


source ... me and google heheh ...
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What part of I make 10m a year and don't pay my employees **** so I am pretty much just like the guys on wall street don't you understand?

The guy barely outdraws Conan, the most unfunny comedian in television history.
First, Stewart is not the CEO of the company that pays him or those who work for his show. So, to be frank, your comparison sucks.
Second, Stewart outdrew Conan by almost 58% last month. That's a little more than "barely". http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/blo...n-again-162823
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Except those intern slaves. But even if they are in a union how many have full ride pensions and medical. I bet zero.
probably all of them. my employer pays all my pension,annuity or medical.
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probably all of them. my employer pays all my pension,annuity or medical.
Isn't it funny the people who complain and b**** the most about health care and pensions are the ones who are getting the free rides in the first place?

No wonder you have an entitlement mentality.
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First, Stewart is not the CEO of the company that pays him or those who work for his show. So, to be frank, your comparison sucks.
Second, Stewart outdrew Conan by almost 58% last month. That's a little more than "barely". http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/blo...n-again-162823
Your point only makes the comparison even more valid. He doesn't even have profit-loss or hire-fire responsbility and he is bagging serious coin. Nice work if you can get it.

A little bit more statistically valid sample size attached.

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/201...how-even/84538
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Your point only makes the comparison even more valid.
If by "more valid" you mean "less valid" then yes, I agree.


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A little bit more statistically valid sample size attached.
40% is still more than "barely", don't you think?!?
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If by "more valid" you mean "less valid" then yes, I agree.

40% is still more than "barely", don't you think?!?
A statistical genius you are not. Lets call you One Data Point Tony from now on. You quote again only the last week's data. What a maroon. I provided a chart with a little historical perspective which shows significant week to week variations. I suggest you call up Wags and have him teach you a few things about statistics please.
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Your point only makes the comparison even more valid. He doesn't even have profit-loss or hire-fire responsbility and he is bagging serious coin. Nice work if you can get it.

A little bit more statistically valid sample size attached.

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/201...how-even/84538
You still don't get it. It doesn't matter what Stewart makes in comparison to the majority of CEOs. He's bagging on the 8 figure idiots who drove their companies to ruin and the news personalities that stuck up for them and their "need" for that kind of compensation.

Surely you believe that people should be paid what they are worth right? How much is a CEO that drives a company to ruin worth? 8 Figures?
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You still don't get it. It doesn't matter what Stewart makes in comparison to the majority of CEOs. He's bagging on the 8 figure idiots who drove their companies to ruin and the news personalities that stuck up for them and their "need" for that kind of compensation.

Surely you believe that people should be paid what they are worth right? How much is a CEO that drives a company to ruin worth? 8 Figures?
Are the CEO's worth more than some snot-nosed baseball player who makes 20m a year playing a kids game? Yeah, I think they are.

Of course guys running major companies (50k+ employees) should be pulling in 8 figures, no question about it.

Entertainers and ballplayers are majorly overpaid yet you suck up to their liberal BS as if it is gospel. Neither of those professions are real work.

Stewart is good for a few laughs but it is hard to take him seriously as you seem to be doing on this particular issue.
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Are the CEO's worth more than some snot-nosed baseball player who makes 20m a year playing a kids game? Yeah, I think they are.

Of course guys running major companies (50k+ employees) should be pulling in 8 figures, no question about it.
The market disagrees with your unsupported assertion. As you're so keen to point out, very few CEOs of companies (even the ones that didn't drive their companies into ruin) make 8 figures. Most get the bulk of their compensation with performance based incentives like stock.

For example, the CEO of HP generally makes about 7 figures/yr (base salary + bonuses) despite being a company of over 300k employees. (also despite being, at least in the last decade, staffed with dead weight MBA wankers)

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Entertainers and ballplayers are majorly overpaid yet you suck up to their liberal BS as if it is gospel. Neither of those professions are real work.
What you or I think is overpaid is irrelevant. People in various professions are paid what they are worth to their employers. Some ballplayers and entertainers make huge sums because they are worth that to the companies they work for. An elite tier actor gets paid 8 figures for one movie because they draw massive audiences -- not because anyone thinks they have a lot of responsibility.

You're smart enough to know people are *not* paid based on responsibility but on their worth in their industry. And again -- CEOs that have driven their companies to ruin are worth very little, despite all their responsibility.

And lets be real, CEOs of 50k+ companies aren't running he show themselves (that would be impossible). Unless they are a majority shareholders, they make high level strategic decisions that the board can overrule. That kind of company is run indirectly by the shareholders through their representatives on the board.

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Stewart is good for a few laughs but it is hard to take him seriously as you seem to be doing on this particular issue.
Stewart (and his other writers) are masters at exposing hypocrisy and other stupidity.
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