Marcell Dareus Highlight/Lowlight film**New Dareus film in OP** - The Orange Mane

BMarsh615 · 03-05-2011, 07:30 AM

BEAST

oubronco · 03-05-2011, 07:42 AM

Put a Broncos uniform on the young man

Chris · 03-05-2011, 08:42 AM

Altered beast.

cmhargrove · 03-05-2011, 08:49 AM

The only thing I hate about this - AGAIN - is taking a highly ranked player, then immediately asking them to play a different position.

I see that he moved both inside and outside, but after watching those highlights it seems that the bulk of his playing time was at the DE position. In our system, he would be playing DT.

He is surprisingly good in open space, i'm just a little conncerned about the value at #2, then asking him to change positions. I guess that's a question for Fox to decide.

BHamita · 03-05-2011, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by cmhargrove

The only thing I hate about this - AGAIN - is taking a highly ranked player, then immediately asking them to play a different position.

I see that he moved both inside and outside, but after watching those highlights it seems that the bulk of his playing time was at the DE position. In our system, he would be playing DT.

He is surprisingly good in open space, i'm just a little conncerned about the value at #2, then asking him to change positions. I guess that's a question for Fox to decide.

You can't take 1 game and make assumptions. Dareus plays all over the line and has played a ton at a true DT spot. His use in the Michigan State game was determined by him dominating the right side of their OL. I'm not sure when being versatile(and dominant at several positions) can be looked at a negative.

Shananahan · 03-05-2011, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by BHamita

I'm not sure when being versatile(and dominant at several positions) can be looked at a negative.

Well said. The fact that he has experience playing almost every position on the line other than an outside rush DE is the beauty of taking him so high. His ability to play well all over the place decreases the chances he won't be able to succeed.

Cmac821 · 03-05-2011, 09:41 AM

looks good, any one know how consistent he is?

Broncoman13 · 03-05-2011, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by BHamita

You can't take 1 game and make assumptions. Dareus plays all over the line and has played a ton at a true DT spot. His use in the Michigan State game was determined by him dominating the right side of their OL. I'm not sure when being versatile(and dominant at several positions) can be looked at a negative.

Maybe not a negative, but it does make it difficult to project how he will play the 3-Tech in a 4-3 defense. I am still kind of luke warm on him as I think he is more of a engager rather than a beater. He tries to pattern his game after Warren Sapp but I don't see the same explosiveness off the snap, not by a long shot.

epicSocialism4tw · 03-05-2011, 09:53 AM

Man, he was in the backfield very often in that game. They couldnt figure out how to deal with him. He was too quick off the snap for their double teams, they couldnt chip him and pass him along, and their linemen didnt hold up one on one. He looks like a strong, disruptive player.

He also held his gaps in that game well when he was asked to, but it looks like they just unleashed him and told him to get in the backfield.

He's a little top heavy and may need to build strength in his core and in his legs. Not that he isnt already strong, but it looks like he has a body type that lends itself to needing that kind of attention. He comes off as a strong player though...he puts the OG and the RT at a disadvantage with his ability to get into gaps and knock someone off kilter.

He's not Suh, but he could be a dominant DT in the NFL if he puts in the work.

ColoradoDarin · 03-05-2011, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Broncoman13

Maybe not a negative, but it does make it difficult to project how he will play the 3-Tech in a 4-3 defense. I am still kind of luke warm on him as I think he is more of a engager rather than a beater. He tries to pattern his game after Warren Sapp but I don't see the same explosiveness off the snap, not by a long shot.

I just want a player who can beat the man (or 2-3 men) across from them. Forget 1-tech, 3 tech or 5 tech, can the dude play? Dareus can (from the limited amount that I've seen).

epicSocialism4tw · 03-05-2011, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Broncoman13

Maybe not a negative, but it does make it difficult to project how he will play the 3-Tech in a 4-3 defense. I am still kind of luke warm on him as I think he is more of a engager rather than a beater. He tries to pattern his game after Warren Sapp but I don't see the same explosiveness off the snap, not by a long shot.

I could see that he's patterning his game after Sapp, and you're right that he's not as explosive.

He seems to me like a guy that will be able to hold a gap and push his man into the backfield, who can occasionally rush the passer.

That type of player will be really useful in Denver because it would help fix the abhorrent run defense.

BHamita · 03-05-2011, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Broncoman13

Maybe not a negative, but it does make it difficult to project how he will play the 3-Tech in a 4-3 defense. I am still kind of luke warm on him as I think he is more of a engager rather than a beater. He tries to pattern his game after Warren Sapp but I don't see the same explosiveness off the snap, not by a long shot.

Does he have as much tape at the 3-Tech as say, Fairley? Well, of course not..but that doesn't mean there isn't enough to get a really good idea of how he will do.

Personally, I prefer a guy who has shown that he can be moved around and can still create consistent disruption.

gyldenlove · 03-05-2011, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by BHamita

Does he have as much tape at the 3-Tech as say, Fairley? Well, of course not..but that doesn't mean there isn't enough to get a really good idea of how he will do.

Personally, I prefer a guy who has shown that he can be moved around and can still create consistent disruption.

I know he has played 1 tech, 3 tech and 5 tech at Alabama in different packages, he is very well coached and he is a physical specimen, he reminds me of a better coached BJ Raji.

Dareus is going to make some team very happy, I certainly hope it will be the Broncos.

TheReverend · 03-05-2011, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Broncoman13

Maybe not a negative, but it does make it difficult to project how he will play the 3-Tech in a 4-3 defense. I am still kind of luke warm on him as I think he is more of a engager rather than a beater. He tries to pattern his game after Warren Sapp but I don't see the same explosiveness off the snap, not by a long shot.

In his defense, no one since has been as explosive as Warren Sapp in his prime.

lostknight · 03-05-2011, 10:40 AM

Remember that our new DC also likes to play not only a 4-3, but also a 3-3-5. He seems ideal for that role.

s0phr0syne · 03-05-2011, 10:41 AM

I know Suh has preformed amazingly well, so it gives me hope, but it seems like drafting a player who by definition is already somewhat of a hedonist (fattys) so high and giving him tons of guaranteed money is just a recipe for disaster.

Chris · 03-05-2011, 10:48 AM

He's a hedonist because he's "fat"? You lost me there.

anton · 03-05-2011, 12:54 PM

im uploading him vs UF, SC, LSU, and AUB right now. He plays a lot more DT vs UF and SC.

BMarsh, can you edit the first post to add a video when the other video is up?

crush17 · 03-05-2011, 02:44 PM

This is the pick at 2 in my eyes. I sure hope they feel the same.

gyldenlove · 03-05-2011, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by s0phr0syne

I know Suh has preformed amazingly well, so it gives me hope, but it seems like drafting a player who by definition is already somewhat of a hedonist (fattys) so high and giving him tons of guaranteed money is just a recipe for disaster.

There is a big difference between your Jamarcus Russells and Terrence Codys who are flat out fat and your big guys like Marcell Dareus and Ndamokung Suh who are athletic.

schaaf · 03-05-2011, 04:51 PM

after watching Marcel Dareus at the combine, I was very surprised at how muscular he was and not really fat at all

Steve Sewell · 03-05-2011, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by s0phr0syne

I know Suh has preformed amazingly well, so it gives me hope, but it seems like drafting a player who by definition is already somewhat of a hedonist (fattys) so high and giving him tons of guaranteed money is just a recipe for disaster.

"Giving a heavy person lots of money to buy food is...a recipe for disaster"

tsiguy96 · 03-05-2011, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Sewell

"Giving a heavy person lots of money to buy food is...a recipe for disaster"

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BMarsh615 · 03-05-2011, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by anton

im uploading him vs UF, SC, LSU, and AUB right now. He plays a lot more DT vs UF and SC.

BMarsh, can you edit the first post to add a video when the other video is up?

Yeah no problem.

Requiem · 03-05-2011, 07:18 PM

The Broncos are guaranteed at least Dareus or Peterson. It would be impossible to mess that up. Unless they are infatuated with Von Miller.

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cmhargrove Is this thing on??? Travis Henry's love child... Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 6,411 Adopt-a-Bronco: Peyton Hillis	The only thing I hate about this - AGAIN - is taking a highly ranked player, then immediately asking them to play a different position. I see that he moved both inside and outside, but after watching those highlights it seems that the bulk of his playing time was at the DE position. In our system, he would be playing DT. He is surprisingly good in open space, i'm just a little conncerned about the value at #2, then asking him to change positions. I guess that's a question for Fox to decide.

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epicSocialism4tw Tebowing the long haul all the way to the title Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: TX, USA Posts: 37,072 Adopt-a-Bronco: Champ Bailey	Man, he was in the backfield very often in that game. They couldnt figure out how to deal with him. He was too quick off the snap for their double teams, they couldnt chip him and pass him along, and their linemen didnt hold up one on one. He looks like a strong, disruptive player. He also held his gaps in that game well when he was asked to, but it looks like they just unleashed him and told him to get in the backfield. He's a little top heavy and may need to build strength in his core and in his legs. Not that he isnt already strong, but it looks like he has a body type that lends itself to needing that kind of attention. He comes off as a strong player though...he puts the OG and the RT at a disadvantage with his ability to get into gaps and knock someone off kilter. He's not Suh, but he could be a dominant DT in the NFL if he puts in the work.

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Requiem ~~~ ~ ~ ~ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Earth Division Posts: 19,606 Adopt-a-Bronco: Gilgamesh	The Broncos are guaranteed at least Dareus or Peterson. It would be impossible to mess that up. Unless they are infatuated with Von Miller.