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Old 02-26-2011, 06:01 PM   #1
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Default Report: NFLPA will decertify by Thursday. Looks like lengthy battle upcoming.

Get ready for the labor battle to be turned up a notch.

ESPNís Adam Schefter and Chris Mortensen report that the NFLPA will decertify by Thursday in the hopes of stopping the NFL owners from locking the players out.

This move would further push the NFL-NFLPA standoff from the negotiating table into the courtrooms.

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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...-to-decertify/
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Old 02-26-2011, 06:08 PM   #2
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Get ready for the labor battle to be turned up a notch.

ESPNís Adam Schefter and Chris Mortensen report that the NFLPA will decertify by Thursday in the hopes of stopping the NFL owners from locking the players out.

This move would further push the NFL-NFLPA standoff from the negotiating table into the courtrooms.

For more, see:
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...-to-decertify/
What does decertify exactly mean, when in comes to unions?
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Old 02-26-2011, 06:13 PM   #3
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What does decertify exactly mean, when in comes to unions?
It will allow them to sue the league for alleged anti-trust violations and it would also prevent the league from locking the playeres out, but the league will claim the decertification is a sham...actually I believe the league has already pre-emptively filed something with the NLRB on this issue a couple weeks ago.
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Boiled down very, very basically, they dissolve the union "officially" so as to make each player an independent employee. The idea is you can't stop an employee from working. This will allow the players as a whole to jointly sue the league. It is probably the only trick they have in their bag and there's an outside chance it could work, but probably won't.
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Just as the greedy owners not collectively working together before the lockout isn't a sham. The owners are hypocrites and pathetic in this whole mess. Actually it is probably more like a few owners tainting the pool for the sum. This will take a while to end.
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Just as the greedy owners not collectively working together before the lockout isn't a sham. The owners are hypocrites and pathetic in this whole mess. Actually it is probably more like a few owners tainting the pool for the sum. This will take a while to end.
See, while I see both sides, and I agree the owners are being stupid in many ways, I generally agree with them on the core issues.
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Just as the greedy owners not collectively working together before the lockout isn't a sham. The owners are hypocrites and pathetic in this whole mess. Actually it is probably more like a few owners tainting the pool for the sum. This will take a while to end.
It's all about leverage right now. I dont think the players can win this long-term. The owners have the network money (even if it has to be paid back) and they've been amassing a war chest in anticipation of this. They had the right to opt-out of the agreement and if they feel they have the leverage, there's no reason for them not to try and get a bigger piece of the pie...same for the players.
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All of this is horrible news for us NFL fans....I just want to watch some football in 2011!!
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Boiled down very, very basically, they dissolve the union "officially" so as to make each player an independent employee. The idea is you can't stop an employee from working. This will allow the players as a whole to jointly sue the league. It is probably the only trick they have in their bag and there's an outside chance it could work, but probably won't.
Last time this happened the players got free agency. I don't think it's a "trick".
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Old 02-26-2011, 07:26 PM   #10
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Bad guy in all of this:

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Always is the Union Head that causes the problems.
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They could also agree to extend the current agreement if they feel they are making progress. This is a procedural matter for the union - if they don't play the card before the current CBA expires, they lose it.
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Just as the greedy owners not collectively working together before the lockout isn't a sham. The owners are hypocrites and pathetic in this whole mess. Actually it is probably more like a few owners tainting the pool for the sum. This will take a while to end.
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I hope the players 'win' in the NFL. I hope the owners 'win' in the NBA.
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I'm curious as to what will happen to a locked-out NFL that has been wildly successful despite what is essentially an economic depression. They couldn't have timed this any worse IMO. It's a perfect storm.
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It's a great time for a start up league.
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TV has to pay anyway and the have the time slot where the NFL used to be. Let the games go on.....
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Richardson's total disrespect to the players annoys me, and Smith's "kissing up" to the media makes me wonder "what the fork" the NFLPA were thinking in choosing him.
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Old 02-26-2011, 10:12 PM   #18
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Dumb question:

If the NFLPA decerts this coming week and each player becomes an employee, doesnt each individual state in which the player/owner reside become a different jurisdiction with different labor laws? Or is that relevant?
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Just as the greedy owners not collectively working together before the lockout isn't a sham. The owners are hypocrites and pathetic in this whole mess. Actually it is probably more like a few owners tainting the pool for the sum. This will take a while to end.
I have to agree with this. I was totally neutral as far as not siding with either side and being disgusted with both. But the more I hear and read, the owners are pathetic. I truly hope this thing comes back to bite them in the end. It may only be a few but if the rest don't take a stand they are as big a hypocrites as the few.
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I have to agree with this. I was totally neutral as far as not siding with either side and being disgusted with both. But the more I hear and read, the owners are pathetic. I truly hope this thing comes back to bite them in the end. It may only be a few but if the rest don't take a stand they are as big a hypocrites as the few.
You Do? Because you don't think it will get passed down to fans via ticket prices concessions, etc?
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Millionares versus Billionares part I.

Interesting enough, this particular tack is amusing. Basically, it's the union admiting that their organization is more of a liability. Strangely, I wonder if the Union has thought through the fact that decertifying allows the owners to write any contract they want on a per-employee basis?
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Would a Superbowl go into the record book if it is played by scabs?
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Last time this happened the players got free agency. I don't think it's a "trick".
I wasn't meaning to trivialize it. I meant it in terms of "one more trick up my sleeve" type of thing. And the difference between then and now is the Owners have been planning this a long time and are unhappy with the current deal whereas previously it was the other way around with the players wanting more money. The Owners are going to dig in and ride this into the season so the players start losing money and start complaining.
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Would a Superbowl go into the record book if it is played by scabs?
Its a lockout, not a strike. No scabs
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