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Yes, you.
And Trichet, and the rest of the Central Bank fools. But especially you, Bernanke. There's dumb and then there's really dumb. Let's take a short walk back down history lane. You were sure there was no housing bubble. Then you were sure it wouldn't pop. Then you were sure when the subprime problem hit, that it wouldn't cause a recession. Then you were sure you had it under control with Bear Stearns' hedge funds. Then you were sure you had it under control with Bear Stearns itself. Then you were sure it was under control with Lehman, even though you had to know Citibank and others were refusing their collateral in the repo market. You were sure QE would support higher bond prices - and lower yields. The exact opposite thing happened. You were sure QE2 would suppress long end yields. The exact opposite thing happened. Oh yeah, you made excuses both times, but in fact you publicly said that in both cases the exact opposite thing would happen that did. Now let's look at what happened just today. Oil went up almost $7 today for the WTI contract. For each dollar that crude oil rises, we transfer roughly $95 billion (estimates vary from $90-100) outside of the United States. That's a direct hit to GDP. In ONE DAY the entire impact of your so-called "QE2" was ERASED. (As an aside, yes, I can do the math on the direct import numbers; the argument here is on the total economic impact, which is as noted above. Estimates there vary somewhat, but they're centered around $90-100 billion/year/dollar increase.) Your entire gambit and what you sold to Congress and President Obama was that you could "restart" credit expansion with your policies. Implicit in your policy was a need to do so, because without it you cannot succeed. The World Economic Forum at Davos released a paper saying that we needed, collectively, to add one hundred trillion dollars of new debt to the system to support the paltry growth numbers you and your economists are putting up. Worse, the CBO stuck up numbers in the TBAC report that show another doubling of Federal Debt in the next nine years and a rough quadrupling of debt service costs to $800 billion, implying a paltry 3% blended rate. We had the collapse starting in 2007 because people couldn't afford the debt they already had and yet your entire scheme, to succeed, requires doubling all systemic debt AGAIN. So how are you going to do it Ben? Who's going to take on that debt, and how are they going to service it? You know damn well it can't work, and won't. You also know damn well you've goaded and prodded the Federal Government into taking on $4.5 trillion in debt we cannot afford, or nearly 30% of GDP. How are you going to take that back off Bernanke? You keep being asked this, but all you say is that you're confident "you have the tools." Uh huh. You don't have jack and you know damn well you can't pull your pump-job back one iota without laying bare on the table the fact that the Federal Government is supporting 12% of GDP with borrowed money. If it disappears we have an instant Depression worse than the 1930s. The bad news is that if you keep this crap up it will disappear by force of the market, there's not a damn thing you can do to prevent it, and that day is rapidly approaching. EVERY prediction you've made about the economy over the last five years has been wrong. All of them. The market is rising only because you're "promising" infinite leverage. But infinite leverage means certain financial ruin if you're wrong about external forces. And the economy is not a closed system under your control. You cannot control other nations, you cannot control commodity speculators and you cannot control other central banks and politicians. You think you can force China off their peg, but they can suppress riots longer than we can. You think you can keep printing but now Egypt has gone down, Libya is collapsing and if Saudi Arabia folds you're instantly ****ED and so are the rest of us. Never mind that it's not just the Middle East. What if Venezuela folds? Mexico goes feral with their drug war? How about South Korea, which now has how many banks closed due to runs? The longer you keep this crap up the worse the instability will become. Eventually something will break that's important, and then it's too late. You can't win this game Bernanke. And the longer you keep trying to protect the banks that should have been shut down and taken into receivership in 2007 the more damage you're going to do. When the history books are written on this catastrophe your name is going to be featured in bright lights as the personal architect and chief jackass who pontificated that he knew it all because he studied The Great Depression. Yeah, you studied it all right. And now you're duplicating the mistakes made then, writ even larger. There are no statesmen left in this nation when it comes to Congress. Not one who will haul your ass in front of them by force of subpoena, put your clear and public record of "accuracy" in front of you and then demand that you justify your twisting of the clear English language to come up with "2% inflation" as your "interpretation" of STABLE PRICES. You're going to fail Bernanke. You're failing right now. You've destroyed one nation's government and this evening, as I write this, a second is falling apart. The madman behind the second, Qaddafi, has apparently ordered his military to strafe civilians, murdering hundreds. But behind it all, your policies and those of your cronies, believing in an indefinite Ponzi Scheme of exponential debt without bound, are responsible for every bit of what's happening today worldwide - and what is to come tomorrow. The only way you can stop it is to admit you were wrong, pull liquidity and allow the insolvent institutions to collapse. And collapse they will - all of them. I'm convinced you know that too. And I'm also convinced that there's three words you will never utter so long as you infest Washington DC: I ****ed up. So here we sit as Americans, with no solution. There is nobody in Congress or The Administration that has the balls to stop you, and you're too much of a douche to admit you blew it and do what should have been done three years ago. As a result, all we have left is to be prepared for what's to come. It's not going to be pretty, and I hope Americans are ready for it. Congratulations Ben Bernnake. Your place in history is secure, and I'm sure Beelzebub thanks you daily for your cooperation. Some day I'm quite sure you'll meet him face-to-face. http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=180591 |
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Mo' holla fo' yo' dolla!
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Bernanke, just like the tool before him, serves at the pleasure of a small circle of insiders who make fortunes by creating bubbles and then betting against them.
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Not sure how many visiting the WRP thread will actually understand your complaints, but any that do, I'd also pose these questions;
1) What's the difference between a Ponzi scheme and a speculation bubble? I'd submit Ponzis rely on fabricated information while speculation relys on fabricated 'expert' opinions. 2) What's the difference between a Ponzi scheme and our economic 'recovery'? With a brick of cash stolen from taxpayers to grease the gears, followed by doctored economic data (Slowing/halting foreclosures to drag out the accelerating housing collapse. Shuffling the unemployed into a seperate 'permanently unemployed' catagory to claim unemployement is dropping. Stealing more cash from taxpayers to boost the finacial sector to immitate GDP growth. Running the printing presses full speed and promising runaway inflation to bolster commodity speculation.) it seems there is no difference. 3) What's the common outcome of Ponzi schemes, speculation bubbles and our current economic 'recovery'? I'd say they all end with the same amount of money they started with, but some get rich off those they rob. In the case of our economy, it's the near future that's bankrupted by this. 4) What actions differetiate someone employed at Goldman Sachs and a Fed Chairman or Treasury Sec that used to be? I'd say not a dang thing. Crooks are crooks and finacial experts aren't economists. Last edited by Boomhauer; 02-24-2011 at 09:29 PM.. |
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Stupid like a fox... he & his cadre are making bazillions and we are picking up the tab.
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Interesting you mention other economic engines like Saudi Arabia, Venezuela, Mexico, et al. Bernanke's effectively said that he doesn't give a rat's arse about the effect of his policies on external nations. He claims that he is solely concerned with righting the American ship and plainly says he doesn't care about global inflation.
He's unwilling to see the big picture and for that, he should be put out to pasture. Dude's become a caricature and a poster child for bloated banking infrastructures, manipulation and misallocation of money, and long discredited economic models. I'm not sure I'd wish Hell on the guy but it comes down to the same thing as our dear president--he's either incompetent or corrupt. Neither is a positive, both are probably more likely. |
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the threat to national security that has been wrought by these banksters is TREASONOUS.
they should be put in jail on charges of treason. they have injured the nation more than any spy. "to support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies foreign and DOMESTIC..." its not what they knew or should have known, its what they effected. |
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It is what it Is.
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I know. That's even worse. At some point someone in authority would be calling for Bernanke to resign. Accountability has to begin somewhere unless it's all part of the plan.
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Yup, our government has been bought and paid for for a long time. When Reagan rolled over and surrendered entirely in the 80s he set in motion the end of our republic.
To be fair, if it weren't Reagan it would have been some other president and previous Presidents paved the way for us to go over the cliff. Reagan just took our collective foot off the emergency brake and stomped on the accelerator. |
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Aug. 2, 2010 "The financial crisis appears to be mostly behind us, and the economy seems to have stabilized and is expanding again." June 9, 2008 "The risk that the economy has entered a substantial downturn appears to have diminished over the past month or so." Jan. 18, 2008 "The U.S. economy has a strong labor force, excellent productivity and technology, and a deep and liquid financial market that is in the process of repairing itself." Jan. 18, 2008 (Two months before Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac collapsed and were nationalized) "They will make it through the storm." Jan. 10, 2008 "The Federal Reserve is not currently forecasting a recession." May 17, 2007 We do not expect significant spillovers from the subprime market to the rest of the economy or to the financial system. March 28, 2007 "At this juncture, however, the impact on the broader economy and financial markets of the problems in the subprime market seems likely to be contained. In particular, mortgages to prime borrowers and fixed-rate mortgages to all classes of borrowers continue to perform well, with low rates of delinquency." Feb. 15, 2006 "Housing markets are cooling a bit. Our expectation is that the decline in activity or the slowing in activity will be moderate, that house prices will probably continue to rise." July, 2005 "We’ve never had a decline in house prices on a nationwide basis. So, what I think what is more likely is that house prices will slow, maybe stabilize, might slow consumption spending a bit. I don’t think it’s gonna drive the economy too far from its full employment path, though." Nov. 21, 2002 "The U.S. government has a technology, called a printing press, that allows it to produce as many U.S. dollars as it wishes at no cost." |
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Freaking hilarious thread! Arkie! You are man among little boys!
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You made the point that Bernanke made the most destructive move 100% of the time. This is not stupidity. Stupid never gets it wrong 100% of the time. It takes talent, purpose and intention to get it "wrong" (or right) 100% of the time. |
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A. Tell everyone B. Tell nobody C. Rob the bank Let them eat cake. |
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It is what it Is.
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RE; your rep comment. It's not so much that people are stupid it's more about the truth of what is happening is so scary and so threatening at a core existence level that people can not afford to see what is right in front of them it is too much to fathom.
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People are scared but do not really realize this is the issue. They call it something else but people are scared ****less right now.
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Mo' holla fo' yo' dolla!
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Inasmuch as the "golden rule" applies, they are above accountability. |
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The Bush Youth and their mommy and daddy issues... ![]() |
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Bush-No. Youth-No. Parental issues-No. But nice job looking like an idiot.
Did you get a quack degree off a CrackerJacks box, or is this from the uber-left playbook for dummies? |
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![]() This from a guy whose posts are nothing more than a compendium of warmed-over Rehab Rush and Glenn Beck talking points. Classic! ![]() Quote:
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Frozen with fear is more like it. If they knew the extent of what was coming they would be motivated beyond any other time in history to make quantum changes in how we do life. They will 'see' only when we are further along in the carnage but millions maybe even billions will have to transcend out of their bodies before those remaining souls make the quantum leap in consciousness that is required to remain in this particular life expression. I think the bible calls it "The Quickening"
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