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Old 02-15-2011, 02:09 PM   #1
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Okay...so last year sucked. It sucked so bad that the team somehow found a way to drive Denver Broncos fans out of the stadium in droves. I havent seen that before personally. It was pathetic. It looked like most of the team quit after the loss to the Jets. I dont know what was going on in the locker room (other than some videotaping), but from the ouside it looked like most of the Broncos were ready to hit the links on some Carribean island. Not that I wouldnt look forward to the same thing. But this is football...serious business. When it cost that dang much to get into the stadium, and even more to have a beer and a carton of garbage nachos, you hope that the players show up. That beating at the hands of Weekend at Bernies' Little Demons was downright embarrassing. Bowlen's lucky he didnt have the EPA out there after that many Broncos players soiled themselves repeatedly on the field over the span of 3 hours. The carbon signature would have bankrupted Bowlen.

But take heart, Broncos fan...there are reasons to hope.

1) New coach smell.
All of the blunders, mismanagement, and mistakes of the McD era can finally begin to be put to bed. McD is replaced by Fox, who if past experience tells us anything, will begin to address the problem spots on defense. Its like getting into that new car and driving it right out of the dealership. You arent thinking about payments yet...you're just taking in the smooth ride. Fox's defenses in Carolina have been consistently the focal point of the team. There's a very real possibility that this will be the case in Denver.

2) The turd will be polished. It might even be traded in for something cooler than a polished turd.
Expect the Broncos to revamp their defense with high draft picks and possibly even a free agent player or two. Please, Elway...bring in Brandon Mebane or Charles Johnson.

3) Doom II
Elvis returns from the grave. Seriously...this is huge. Instant boost to the defense.

3) The Holy Rollout.
Tebow is the kind of guy that Broncos fans will grow to love. His will to win and his heart are unmatched around the league. Up next, his arm and his mind. Tebow encourages belief just because of who he is and how he goes about his business. He instills belief in his teammates and in the fans. He showed alot over his final three games, and he's perfect for a team trying to climb out of a hole.

3) Feet of Clay-dy.
The empire crumbled when the left tackle suffered an injury. Clady went from being impossible to beat to beaten regularly. His injury typically takes a year to heal from, and this next year should be the year that he returns to form.

4) Youth Movement.
Expect some young players to become contributors this season. Walton, Beadles, and Decker are my picks. Cox and Sid'quan could develop as well. If McIceBath could ever stay in the 52, he might be able to do something. Quinn could end up being aweso............gotcha!


4 realz.

I think that the offensive and defensive lines will both be better. How much better is anyones guess. But Dumervil is a significant addition on his own. If you put another stud player on that line, you're getting closer to having (gasp!) a good defense. If the Broncos make those two aspects of the team better and Tebow plays at least like he did last season, the Broncos will win some games.
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Old 02-15-2011, 02:13 PM   #2
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Yes we will be better, nowhere to go but up......for real. For the most part the level of competition we play will be less than last year so our record should improve from that alone. See the paper tiger Chefs of last year.
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Old 02-15-2011, 02:29 PM   #3
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I have concerns that Elvis will never be the same.
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Old 02-15-2011, 02:40 PM   #4
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props for the effort, but the team sucks. And D.Thomas is out and so is Royal at least till minicamp ... if there even is any minicamp.
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Old 02-15-2011, 02:46 PM   #5
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Why would some one be so "realistic" and pessimistic about a team you love, where is the fun in that? Makes this site hard with all the negativity
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Old 02-15-2011, 02:53 PM   #6
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Well, I think the chances are good we won't have the first or second overall picks. But, I wouldn't say it's impossible.

But Tebow is not going to be a better qb than was orton at least in the beginning. There's less WR depth than last year. Harris has has ONE healthy year in his career. One draft isn't going to fix that front 7. Champ is even money to walk at this pt. The odds of Burkhalter, LenDale or Morony contributing are iffy at best.

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Old 02-15-2011, 03:00 PM   #7
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I have concerns that Elvis will never be the same.
A torn pectoral? While certainly a painful injury, he has had a looooooong time to heal, and his game has really been based on foot speed, not upper body power. Sure, it could put his bullrush behind schedule, but his sacks come from fast feet around (and under) the Tackle.

Let's get him some "beast" help on the inside, and he will be golden.
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Old 02-15-2011, 03:31 PM   #8
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A torn pectoral? While certainly a painful injury, he has had a looooooong time to heal, and his game has really been based on foot speed, not upper body power. Sure, it could put his bullrush behind schedule, but his sacks come from fast feet around (and under) the Tackle.

Let's get him some "beast" help on the inside, and he will be golden.
........his game is based on leverage. And how much do you know about torn pectorals? I'm not aware of anyone that's had one that's ever healed completely. Ask TheDave.
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Elway will turn this thing around. I'm not sure it will happen in a year but he seems to know what he is talking about based on what I have heard so far. Hopefully Fox was the right choice at head coach. We could be back in the playoffs in two years if they do this right. Really we could be there next season if they make smart decisions and have a little luck. This is the age of parity. I'm not expecting that though.
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it took Elway half a season to even have a clue. Tebow's gonna take awhile even if he can master the postion.
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All the more reason to draft Bowers.
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Old 02-15-2011, 04:19 PM   #12
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Just underwent surgery on his knee (torn miniscus). Not severe enough to derail his career, but severe enough to keep him out of the combine and potentially his pro day and can plummet him to a mid-late round pick
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Well, I think the chances are good we won't have the first or second overall picks. But, I wouldn't say it's impossible.

But Tebow is not going to be a better qb than was orton at least in the beginning. There's less WR depth than last year. Harris has has ONE healthy year in his career. One draft isn't going to fix that front 7. Champ is even money to walk at this pt. The odds of Burkhalter, LenDale or Morony contributing are iffy at best.
I think (hope) lendale is a beast in short yardage this year. I was really bummed when he went down, because he actually looked like he gave a **** at that point.

He's definitely one I have high hopes for this year...coming back and playing for the home state, second chance, etc etc.
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Why would some one be so "realistic" and pessimistic about a team you love, where is the fun in that? Makes this site hard with all the negativity
I have hope at the beginning of every year but it's a cautious optimism anymore. Kept hearing how Shanahan just needs this and that and it will be the year. After 10 years of that you get a little cynical. McD came in and blew everything up so I don't see where we have anywhere to go but up. I just hope there's a season.
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........his game is based on leverage. And how much do you know about torn pectorals? I'm not aware of anyone that's had one that's ever healed completely. Ask TheDave.
Where is he anyway? I love that guy!
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Just underwent surgery on his knee (torn miniscus). Not severe enough to derail his career, but severe enough to keep him out of the combine and potentially his pro day and can plummet him to a mid-late round pick
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Cant find this story anywhere
Google/news: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/201...t-combine.html

IIRC he had surgery right after their bowl game. He's not going to be plummeting down draft boards, however.

And as far as Doom's torn pec...well Lofa Tatupu had that injury a year or two ago and he's ****ing awful now (of course that was one of many injuries he's suffered).
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Well, I think the chances are good we won't have the first or second overall picks. But, I wouldn't say it's impossible.

But Tebow is not going to be a better qb than was orton at least in the beginning. There's less WR depth than last year. Harris has has ONE healthy year in his career. One draft isn't going to fix that front 7. Champ is even money to walk at this pt. The odds of Burkhalter, LenDale or Morony contributing are iffy at best.
Tebow will never be as good as Elway UNTIL he lines up under guard. Then he's set.
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Well the thing about the way the NFL is set up and the way things are the difference between the best and the worst is still a very thin line. Think about this, we were a very bad team last year. Even though if the ball would have bounced a little differently on about 5-10 plays we probably would have won the division and went to the playoffs.
So as bleak as things may seem, it doesn't take as much to turn things around in the NFL as it seems.
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........his game is based on leverage. And how much do you know about torn pectorals? I'm not aware of anyone that's had one that's ever healed completely. Ask TheDave.
Bertrand Berry recovered from it and said he had no lasting effects.

Here's a link to the denverpost story:
http://blogs.denverpost.com/broncos/...n-muscle/4263/

Once again, I agree with the leverage concept, and a pro DE definitely uses all his muscle groups fighting past the line. I just think that Elvis' major asset is his explosion off the snap, and speed around the corner. The arms and chest are always used for leverage, but I don't think they will hold him back (as long as it doesn't pop again).
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Until we can stop Jay Feely, this is a load of crap. Believe it when I see it.
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Until we can stop Jay Feely, this is a load of crap. Believe it when I see it.
Don't forget John Skelton!
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Crap. You're right. Because he is a turd, it actually adds to the amazing effort by Feely.

THE KICKER RAN IN A TD! ARE YOU KIDDING?
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Bertrand Berry recovered from it and said he had no lasting effects.

Here's a link to the denverpost story:
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Once again, I agree with the leverage concept, and a pro DE definitely uses all his muscle groups fighting past the line. I just think that Elvis' major asset is his explosion off the snap, and speed around the corner. The arms and chest are always used for leverage, but I don't think they will hold him back (as long as it doesn't pop again).
Oh yeah? Berry went from back to back years of 11.5 sacks and 14.5 sacks to never surpassing 6 after the injury.

Also, Elvis uses his arms to lock out a LOT more than Berry did. Watch a highlight reel of him... on almost every sack hes locked out with his left wheeling around the blocker into the QB. I hope it's not the case, but this could very well cut massively into his production.
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This team will suck hard in the immediate future (if there is one). An NFL QB is just one of a long list of needs.
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