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Old 02-11-2011, 01:43 PM   #1
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Yah, now comes the Islamic extremists and war with Israel, let's celebrate!!!



























































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those people dont look like they would stand for an Iranian style govt. I'm not super worried.
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those people dont look like they would stand for an Iranian style govt. I'm not super worried.
Neither is the commodity market as the price of a barrel of oil is down by close to a buck and a half.

Hopefully, that'll start reflecting at the pump shortly
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Power vacuums have a way of being filled by power mad people. Whomever owns the military owns the country. The worst thing we could do is take a cavalier or nonchalant approach to what Egypt becomes because you don't need an Iranian style state to be real trouble for the US, you just need a regime that wants Israel annihilated and that considers the US a blowhard outsider. Thanks to this Administration, the latter has already become reality.
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I guess we can all thank George W. Bush for this latest trend towards Democracy in the ME. It started in Iraq.

I'd love it, LOVE IT, if Bush's gamble pays off. I'm not a Bush supporter by any means, nor did I agree with the invasion of Iraq, but you gotta believe that what is happening in Egypt is because the people of Egypt see what is happening in Iraq.

Now, will a true Democracy happen? I kinda doubt it, I think the extremists will strong arm the country into submission. That being said, who knows, perhaps Democracy really will take hold in the ME.
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Power vacuums have a way of being filled by power mad people. Whomever owns the military owns the country. The worst thing we could do is take a cavalier or nonchalant approach to what Egypt becomes because you don't need an Iranian style state to be real trouble for the US, you just need a regime that wants Israel annihilated and that considers the US a blowhard outsider. Thanks to this Administration, the latter has already become reality.
lemme guess, your a GWB fan....

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Neither is the commodity market as the price of a barrel of oil is down by close to a buck and a half.

Hopefully, that'll start reflecting at the pump shortly

not likely, as the price for gas is actually up again, despite record supplies of both oil and gas in north america.

http://www.bloomberg.com/energy/
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The military supports peace with Israel and are firmly against the Muslim Brotherhood. I'm not worried. I think this is going to be something America can say is a good thing eventually. Now we just need to get the people of Syria and Iran to do the same thing. Save the Saudis for last hopefully because that country has some serious cash.
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lemme guess, your a GWB fan....
Bush has nothing to do with this, so guess again. Just a realist, dude. The President, in his speech, said something like 'Nothing less than genuine democracy will carry the day.' If he actually believes this, he's a fool.

The egypt-israel accord is in serious jeopardy and nations like syria are already having their official tv news say as much. when iran develops the same meme and our weak administration lays down, things could get REALLY scary.
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The military presents a best-case scenario for democratic steps to a better government for Egypt, because it gives them a chance to emulate the Turkish model.

I do not worry about Egypt becoming "another Iran". The differences (from geographic location to population to international trade dependence) are simply too great for a new regime that slaps away the hands of the West.

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not likely, as the price for gas is actually up again, despite record supplies of both oil and gas in north america.

http://www.bloomberg.com/energy/
Give it the weekend....the futures will drop as well if Egypt chills out after this
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I hope they don't get a democracy, mob rule can be fickle. I'd rather they institute a republic with the rule of law and property rights. I'm probably 60% hopeful and 40% fearful of the outcome.
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Eh, we will see what happens. Not really that interested in US once again being all up in some other areas **** when we aren't good at it and we have enough issues here.

Democracy tends to open the doors to a more moderate type of ruling party. But it will be interesting to see for sure.
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and welcome the muslim brotherhood in Egypt, now all they want to take out is Israel and Saudi Arabia and they'll be happy campers... until they realize that we're also so called infidels and start attacking American citizens.... Also, why a revolution after 30 years of this guy? If they are so committed to democracy, freedom, and inalienable rights then why did this revolution not happen many years ago? Which group started the protests anyways?

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The military supports peace with Israel and are firmly against the Muslim Brotherhood. I'm not worried. I think this is going to be something America can say is a good thing eventually. Now we just need to get the people of Syria and Iran to do the same thing. Save the Saudis for last hopefully because that country has some serious cash.

I've yet to see one official statement from the military or the defense secretary who now runs the country about this, so why are you assuming it? The military is horribly paid, much like they were in Iran before the radical regime bought their allegiance. Why could this not happen here?
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Egypt won't be doing **** to Israel. They aren't good at it. Seriously.
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The military supports peace with Israel and are firmly against the Muslim Brotherhood. I'm not worried. I think this is going to be something America can say is a good thing eventually. Now we just need to get the people of Syria and Iran to do the same thing. Save the Saudis for last hopefully because that country has some serious cash.
Any political disruption in Saudi Arabia will effectively screw the world...the Egypt thing happening there would be a disaster of epic proportions.
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Bush has nothing to do with this, so guess again. Just a realist, dude. The President, in his speech, said something like 'Nothing less than genuine democracy will carry the day.' If he actually believes this, he's a fool.

The egypt-israel accord is in serious jeopardy and nations like syria are already having their official tv news say as much. when iran develops the same meme and our weak administration lays down, things could get REALLY scary.
Or we could invade Egypt in search of weapons of mass destruction and piss off more of the world.
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I've yet to see one official statement from the military or the defense secretary who now runs the country about this, so why are you assuming it? The military is horribly paid, much like they were in Iran before the radical regime bought their allegiance. Why could this not happen here?
Because the United States fringe idiots that are heard the loudest on the internet and talk radio actually account for very few of the decisions made in this country. People who go to work and live their lives are the ones who make **** go in the US.

Not paranoid idiots from the extremes who yack about a revolution in this country.
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Or we could invade Egypt in search of weapons of mass destruction and piss off more of the world.
Is that possible?
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Egypt won't be doing **** to Israel. They aren't good at it. Seriously.
Here's the thing. They don't need to 'do ****' to Israel, other than revoke their camp david accord and isolate israel among the other nations wishing to destroy it. Iran and the other wolves will take care of the rest.
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and welcome the muslim brotherhood in Egypt, now all they want to take out is Israel and Saudi Arabia and they'll be happy campers... until they realize that we're also so called infidels and start attacking American citizens.... Also, why a revolution after 30 years of this guy? If they are so committed to democracy, freedom, and inalienable rights then why did this revolution not happen many years ago? Which group started the protests anyways?

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and welcome the muslim brotherhood in Egypt, now all they want to take out is Israel and Saudi Arabia and they'll be happy campers... until they realize that we're also so called infidels and start attacking American citizens.... Also, why a revolution after 30 years of this guy? If they are so committed to democracy, freedom, and inalienable rights then why did this revolution not happen many years ago? Which group started the protests anyways?

This won't end well I promise you.
Welp this is dumb. What, only a US-supported overthrow of an authoritarian regime can succeed?
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