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Old 02-07-2011, 10:56 AM   #1
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Broncos unlikely to bring Orton back.
Posted Feb. 07, 2011 @ 11:47 a.m. ET
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Broncos executive vice president of football operations John Elway recently said it's not a sure thing that QB Kyle Orton will be traded, but a PFW insider said it would be very tough to bring the veteran back. While QB Tim Tebow may not give the team the best chance to win, he does have the backing of the fans in Denver. Elway has talked about reconnecting with the fans and could lose some credibility by sticking with Orton. A daily team observer said he gets the feeling that fans would rather win three or four games with Tebow than six or seven with Orton.

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Old 02-07-2011, 10:59 AM   #2
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"Daily team observer" Me or anyone on this board can qualify as that
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Old 02-07-2011, 11:02 AM   #3
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A daily team observer said he gets the feeling that fans would rather win three or four games with Tebow than six or seven with Orton.
I think there is no question about that at this point.
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Old 02-07-2011, 11:03 AM   #4
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A daily team observer said he gets the feeling that fans would rather win three or four games with Tebow than six or seven with Orton.
We need a poll to confirm the accuracy of this.

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Old 02-07-2011, 11:05 AM   #5
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We need a poll to confirm the accuracy of this.

Where's Hotrod?
really, where is Hotrod? I miss that guy..
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Old 02-07-2011, 11:05 AM   #6
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A daily team observer said he gets the feeling that fans would rather win three or four games with Tebow than six or seven with Orton.

only for so long...Elway was booed by Denver fans quite often
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Old 02-07-2011, 11:12 AM   #7
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Old 02-07-2011, 11:15 AM   #8
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There's not a fan on this board that would rather have 3 wins vs. 7....No matter the circumstance.
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Doesn't surprise me.....I think we go in with Tebow and Quinn IMO and the FO knows that.....especially if the rift is true......I think Orton knows his days are numbered.
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Old 02-07-2011, 11:21 AM   #10
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Media just covering all their bases. Orton's the starter. No, Orton won't even be here next year. No, Orton is here, and the Broncos aren't looking for a trade. The trade offers will start out with a second round pick.

Someday, we'll all learn to look past this as pure media posturing and nothing more.
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A team insider also rumored that Cool Starry Bra gave a lap dance to Requiem for six dollars last evening at a local Super Bowl party.
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There's not a fan on this board that would rather have 3 wins vs. 7....No matter the circumstance.
completely not true. there is multiple people here who would criticize orton for winning 7 and priase tebow for winning 3, regardless of the circumstances
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Old 02-07-2011, 11:24 AM   #13
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There's not a fan on this board that would rather have 3 wins vs. 7....No matter the circumstance.
I disagree with that. Winning 6-7 games with Orton is a step backwards.

Winning games with Tebow, regardless of whether it's fewer than it might be with Orton, is moving forward as an organization.
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Local press are now called daily team observers?
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I disagree with that. Winning 6-7 games with Orton is a step backwards.

Winning games with Tebow, regardless of whether it's fewer than it might be with Orton, is moving forward as an organization.
unless you take into account the very real possibility that tebow is not capable of doing in NFL what he did in college, and may never be a legit starting QB. everyone wants him to be, but its not a for sure thing
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Somebody at PFT had a deadline and didn't have anything else to run with...
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unless you take into account the very real possibility that tebow is not capable of doing in NFL what he did in college, and may never be a legit starting QB. everyone wants him to be, but its not a for sure thing
What does it matter? We are still better with Tebow than we are with Orton. This was proven when Tebow outplayed Orton in live games last season. This, while Tebow was a rookie still learning the basics.

There is zero reason to stick with Orton. He does not give this team a better chance to win. This is why he will not be here next season, or at least won't be the starter.
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unless you take into account the very real possibility that tebow is not capable of doing in NFL what he did in college, and may never be a legit starting QB. everyone wants him to be, but its not a for sure thing
Even if he craps out it's still moving forward because you would be gaining that knowledge and can begin to look for the QBOTF, with a likely high draft choice.
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There's not a fan on this board that would rather have 3 wins vs. 7....No matter the circumstance.
You'd think so, but as you can see, it's untrue.
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I disagree with that. Winning 6-7 games with Orton is a step backwards.

Winning games with Tebow, regardless of whether it's fewer than it might be with Orton, is moving forward as an organization.
You're assuming that a 3 win Tebow season would eventually lead to something better. What if the question was.....

Tebow starts for 10 years and Denver wins 3 games every one of those seasons or ANY other QB starts and Denver wins 7 games every year.

I agree that Orton should be traded and that the Broncos need to go all in on Tebow....But winning 3 games is not a step forward from anything. There may be 'people' who'd prefer 3 wins over 7 but I wouldn't categorize them as Bronco fans.
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You'd think so, but as you can see, it's untrue.
I guess some people think that tearing down a house is always a bad thing. Even if it's a festering rat hole built on a shoddy foundation.
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I guess some people think that tearing down a house is always a bad thing. Even if it's a festering rat hole built on a shoddy foundation.
Ah, the ole "you have to destroy in order to create" thing right?
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You're assuming that a 3 win Tebow season would eventually lead to something better. What if the question was.....

Tebow starts for 10 years and Denver wins 3 games every one of those seasons or ANY other QB starts and Denver wins 7 games every year.

I agree that Orton should be traded and that the Broncos need to go all in on Tebow....But winning 3 games is not a step forward from anything. There may be 'people' who'd prefer 3 wins over 7 but I wouldn't categorize them as Bronco fans.
I'm not assuming anything. I don't believe Orton is not a guy to lead this team forward.

Teobe may not be either, but moving away from Orton and finding out what Tebow really is as a QB are both positives to me. Even if Tebow proves to be awful.

There is nothing positive to be taken from winning 6 or 7 games with Orton.
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Even if he craps out it's still moving forward because you would be gaining that knowledge and can begin to look for the QBOTF, with a likely high draft choice.
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There is nothing positive to be taken from winning 6 or 7 games with Orton.
I'd argue that you'd gain even more knowledge from a 7 win Orton season.

We'd have one more year to learn Orton's true ceiling.

Tebow obviously wasn't good enough at any point to win the job from a 7 win QB, so he's probably not the answer either.
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There's not a fan on this board that would rather have 3 wins vs. 7....No matter the circumstance.
3 win seasons are highly overrated. Been there, done that...
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