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View Poll Results: Elway has the most important job that will determine the future of the Broncos, rate him so far.
i like what he is saying and i like his coaching choices. He will lead just like he did as QB 47 62.67%
I wish he would keep his mouth shut, he is not helping the team with all his unnecessary comments 13 17.33%
The fact he has no experience bothers me greatly. I fear for the future 11 14.67%
I am going to say to early to tell because I never take risks of opinion, this is serious business 14 18.67%
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Old 02-03-2011, 08:38 AM   #1
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Early I know but what is your take on how you think Elway has done so far.

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He needs to keep his mouth shut and realize the media is out to get news no matter how they get it.
He will learn. I think some of the stuff Elway's said have been honest and sincere comments, but he will soon realize how it can quickly be turned into a soap opera.

He will learn...
BTW, tomorrow on the denversportstation.com Elway will be with Vic & Gary at 8am MST. I'm sure they will ask him about the commonets on Orton starting if the season was today, or something like that...
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just shut up john

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I have no doubt he has the Broncos' best interest at heart. However, his inexperience could be a hindrance to our rebuilding franchise. We'll see...
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You are truly an ass mister you have me on ignore please stay the hell off my threads. You are the biggest negative on this board. If only you could see the rep comments I get saying what a complete dipshiit you are. Please continue to ignore me like you promised.
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as long as he's being himself, i'm cool with it. i've got no problem with what he's said publicly thus far and his moves are solid on paper but it's too early to say much about his performance. his inexperience doesn't worry me much because, at the very least, he built a champion in the Arena League, so he's not entirely wet behind the ears, IMO.

he gets a B for his coaching hire and his representation of the franchise thus far.
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John Fox? I mean really....
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Elway has an "Awe shucks" john Wayne kind of a personality that is going to appeal to some and rub others the wrong way. He has spoke out of turn on some things early on. He should not have clipped the nuts of Xanders (no place to hide now) even if he deserved it. That was counter productive. In general he may offer too much information to reporters like Peter King (they are going to twist what he says for a story like he did with the Tebow stuff)

He made probably the safest and therefore best hire of a HC given the situation the Broncos are which is ready to fall off the cliff.

It's so hard to read John so far. Either he is dumb like a fox or he has a habit of saying what's on his mind without considering the consequences and given the position he is in that would not be a good thing.
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I say it is way too early to tell. I don't really care what he says, the only thing that matters is what he does. He hasn't had much of a chance to do anything other than get coaches. I still don't know much about the coaches he hired so I don't have an opinion about them yet. I would say the earliest we can even start forming an educated opinion on this situation would be after the draft and free agency. Even then, we won't know much until these guys take the field.

You see, I don't like to blindly love or hate stuff until there is some form or proof that it is good or bad.
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I say it is way too early to tell. I don't really care what he says, the only thing that matters is what he does. He hasn't had much of a chance to do anything other than get coaches. I still don't know much about the coaches he hired so I don't have an opinion about them yet. I would say the earliest we can even start forming an educated opinion on this situation would be after the draft and free agency. Even then, we won't know much until these guys take the field.

You see, I don't like to blindly love or hate stuff until there is some form or proof that it is good or bad.
That's pretty funny given you decided to hate McD from the day he was hired.
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That's pretty funny given you decided to hate McD from the day he was hired.
Didn't you just put me on ignore for the 20th time? Why are you responding to me?

I liked the McDaniels hire right up until he started making personnel moves. From then on, it was easy to see he was going to fail. But yes, you should hold my superior intelligence against me.
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John Fox? I mean really....

Fox reminds me of Dan Reeves--a run first, defensive minded guy who preached toughness and wasn't overly imaginative from an offensive standpoint. The difference is that Fox has a very good relationship with his players, from what I've seen. At this point, this franchise needs a Dan Reeves-like presence to rebuild it with a clear identity and move it forward. I just want to see sustained improvement right now, not necessarily a Super Bowl.
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I think John has done a great job so far. I liked he wanted to hire a D minded HC at least. He also realized that it might be a good idea to actually go to Senior bowl something Shanny thought he never needed to do. Time will tell how he does with drafting,trades,FA but, he deserves a chance.
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Didn't you just put me on ignore for the 20th time? Why are you responding to me?

I liked the McDaniels hire right up until he started making personnel moves. From then on, it was easy to see he was going to fail. But yes, you should hold my superior intelligence against me.
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No I say I was not going to try an discuss anything with you but your in my thread so I commented on a statement of yours which is not an attempt at discussion.

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I think John has done a great job so far. I liked he wanted to hire a D minded HC at least. He also realized that it might be a good idea to actually go to Senior bowl something Shanny thought he never needed to do. Time will tell how he does with drafting,trades,FA but, he deserves a chance.
Are you saying the Broncos did not scout the Senior Bowl?
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I'd say Elway is doing well so far. Even some of the "unnecessary" comments I think are actually being used for a purpose. Way too much was read into his statement about Orton being the starting QB. He's keeping it vague on purpose! Look carefully, and he really hasn't tipped his hand on what the future holds for Orton, Tebow and the like. Those decisions will come in time, and will hopefully be what's best for the team.

Yes, Elway is inexperienced with NFL teams. However, I'm betting he'll be able to use that he learned in the AFL and apply it here. Last I checked, the Crush didn't do too badly while they were around. He also mentioned something that's very telling. He hires to his weaknesses. That means he's going to bring in people to fill in his gaps in knowledge. Great way to work.

He hired probably the best HC he could under his guidelines. Fox will help bring in a strong defense and running game. Yet he's far from a micro-manager, and I suspect he will give his coordinators a lot of free reign. I'm especially looking forward to what our offense could churn out. Imagine an effective running game to go along with McDaniels-type offensive plays. The blend of the two could be dangerous to deal with, and McCoy could find a way to blend the two styles.

Main thing is we'll have to wait and see. So far though, I think Elway will provide what this team needs.
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I'd say Elway is doing well so far. Even some of the "unnecessary" comments I think are actually being used for a purpose. Way too much was read into his statement about Orton being the starting QB. He's keeping it vague on purpose! Look carefully, and he really hasn't tipped his hand on what the future holds for Orton, Tebow and the like. Those decisions will come in time, and will hopefully be what's best for the team.

Yes, Elway is inexperienced with NFL teams. However, I'm betting he'll be able to use that he learned in the AFL and apply it here. Last I checked, the Crush didn't do too badly while they were around. He also mentioned something that's very telling. He hires to his weaknesses. That means he's going to bring in people to fill in his gaps in knowledge. Great way to work.

He hired probably the best HC he could under his guidelines. Fox will help bring in a strong defense and running game. Yet he's far from a micro-manager, and I suspect he will give his coordinators a lot of free reign. I'm especially looking forward to what our offense could churn out. Imagine an effective running game to go along with McDaniels-type offensive plays. The blend of the two could be dangerous to deal with, and McCoy could find a way to blend the two styles.

Main thing is we'll have to wait and see. So far though, I think Elway will provide what this team needs.
Good take, well thought out

I was very impressed with this too. The one thing that appears to be incongruent with this thinking is retaining Xanders. Brian is a mystery man so not really able to tell but I wonder how this GM plays to john's weakness unless it's cap stuff and contracts and it that is it why retain him as a GM and not as a cap expert?
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Short of hiring Fox, I don't think he's done anything yet. We all have high hopes.
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Good take, well thought out

I was very impressed with this too. The one thing that appears to be incongruent with this thinking is retaining Xanders. Brian is a mystery man so not really able to tell but I wonder how this GM plays to john's weakness unless it's cap stuff and contracts and it that is it why retain him as a GM and not as a cap expert?
Well, Elway did talk to Xanders very extensively. So I imagine the results from that discussion were the basis for Elway retaining Xanders. Elway must think he can contribute.

I have a feeling Xanders is on a leash though. He fails and he could be gone.
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No I say I was not going to try an discuss anything with you but your in my thread so I commented on a statement of yours which is not an attempt at discussion.
You do realize that you typed this and it doesn't just go away, right?

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Those options are awful.

First, he isn't the biggest factor, John Fox and the starting QB are pretty damn big factors at this point, injuries, schedule other teams injuries etc...

This isn't a one man deal d-bags.

So far I like what I see, but I will give him at least 2 years before I pass judgement.
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