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Old 01-30-2011, 08:35 AM   #1
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That's why the NFL runs itself in a way that would fit nicely on Glenn Beck's chalkboard - they literally share the wealth, through salary caps and revenue sharing - TV is their biggest source of revenue, and they put all of it in a big commie pot and split it 32 ways. Because they don't want anyone to fall too far behind. That's why the team that wins the Super Bowl picks last in the next draft. Or what the Republicans would call "punishing success." http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bill-m..._b_815673.html


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Old 01-30-2011, 08:40 AM   #2
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That's why the NFL runs itself in a way that would fit nicely on Glenn Beck's chalkboard - they literally share the wealth, through salary caps and revenue sharing - TV is their biggest source of revenue, and they put all of it in a big commie pot and split it 32 ways. Because they don't want anyone to fall too far behind. That's why the team that wins the Super Bowl picks last in the next draft. Or what the Republicans would call "punishing success." http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bill-m..._b_815673.html


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Cool story bro. Now, perhaps, you can explain why socialism doesn't work anywhere else?
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Old 01-30-2011, 08:41 AM   #3
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That's why the NFL runs itself in a way that would fit nicely on Glenn Beck's chalkboard - they literally share the wealth, through salary caps and revenue sharing - TV is their biggest source of revenue, and they put all of it in a big commie pot and split it 32 ways. Because they don't want anyone to fall too far behind. That's why the team that wins the Super Bowl picks last in the next draft. Or what the Republicans would call "punishing success." http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bill-m..._b_815673.html


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I saw that New Rules segment and it was spot on...especially the part about comparing the NFL to MLB.
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The concept works as long as everyone is interested in success. Now, if someday someone's drug addict kid takes over the team and is more interested in using his status as owner to bang skanks than run the team... see if they're still as interested to support each other.

Oh, and didn't owners vote out the revenue sharing last season or the one before it?
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Actually this is a total fail...tv contracts pay for player salaries which are not at a fixed rate...but instead by the individual player production. Each team owner has to compete and provide a great product on the 'assembly line' in order to fill the seats and increase profits. Mayer is a fool in less than 3 sentences.

We all know the draft is where champions are born...right detroit?

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Old 01-30-2011, 09:06 AM   #7
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I don't see what John Mayer has to do with this.

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Parity makes the sport exciting, and drives revenue growth. The NFL is a business, it helps their ultimate goal (make money) to promote competitive parity. This example does not help or hurt his points on socialism.
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The NFL itself is a business, that competes with MLB and NHL etc.
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Old 01-30-2011, 09:19 AM   #10
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Cool story bro. Now, perhaps, you can explain why socialism doesn't work anywhere else?
Large portions of Europe disagree with this post.
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This seems like "epic socialism FTW." Wonder what ol' Llama thinks of this.

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Parity makes the sport exciting, and drives revenue growth. The NFL is a business, it helps their ultimate goal (make money) to promote competitive parity.
Something MLB (and it's large market team fans) will never understand
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Old 01-30-2011, 09:50 AM   #13
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The NFL is a good example of why "spreading the wealth" makes everyone happy. Guess what fat cat, if you keep on increasing your take and decreasing mine, there won't be anybody to buy your product. Oh wait, that's right you can just sell it to all those third world countries who make so much money. Because you shipped our jobs overseas, and you pay them such high wages.

And if anyone believes "corporate America" isn't taking too big a slice of the pie, try getting a place to park at the superbowl. If you can afford to pay $900.00 for parking, you might be making too much. Some day the fat lazy american will wake up, and he ain't gonna be happy.
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The NFL is about to shut down over health care and money disagreements between owners and unionized employees. The lockout where owners will still bring in revenue from their television contracts, but tens of thousands will be unemployed. Their main objective as owners is still to grow their product to put money into their own pockets. Just as the players try to perform at an above average level to negotiate higher contracts and grow their own wealth. Those greedy big shots should be sharing the wealth with the fans that have padded their pockets.

The NFL is a single entity, obviously they don't want their smaller markets and franchises to fall behind because it hurts the company as a whole. Just as any parent company would do with its subsidiaries.

Also, the NFL frowns on smoking pot.
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Cool story bro. Now, perhaps, you can explain why socialism doesn't work anywhere else?
Norway. Now while not quite a pure socialist country, Norway has much higher taxes and many more state run systems. I don't think that this would work here in the United States, but this shows that socialism in different forms is not a complete failure of an idea.

http://www.inc.com/magazine/20110201...socialism.html

These guys pay almost 50% of their personal taxes to Norway, and they think it is fair. Corporate tax profits are low at 28%, but there is also a significant "wealth tax"

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That's why the NFL runs itself in a way that would fit nicely on Glenn Beck's chalkboard - they literally share the wealth, through salary caps and revenue sharing - TV is their biggest source of revenue, and they put all of it in a big commie pot and split it 32 ways. Because they don't want anyone to fall too far behind. That's why the team that wins the Super Bowl picks last in the next draft. Or what the Republicans would call "punishing success." http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bill-m..._b_815673.html


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Bill Maher is such a tard. He's forgetting that not just anyone can be an NFL owner. It's like a billionaire's private club.

Um yah Bill. It takes capitalism to create billionaire wealth in order to be part of a very exclusive club. It's not communisim Bill, it's capitalism.
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Norway. Now while not quite a pure socialist country, Norway has much higher taxes and many more state run systems. I don't think that this would work here in the United States, but this shows that socialism in different forms is not a complete failure of an idea.

http://www.inc.com/magazine/20110201...socialism.html

These guys pay almost 50% of their personal taxes to Norway, and they think it is fair. Corporate tax profits are low at 28%, but there is also a significant "wealth tax"

Unemployment 3.5%
More entrepreneurs per capita than the United States
Free health insurance for all
It's easy to be socialistic when everyone looks the same. It's all a white-washed paradise in Norway. I guarantee you, if you unloaded 10 million Latinos who couldn't speak their language on them they wouldn't be so excited to "share the wealth."

Get real.
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It's easy to be socialistic when everyone looks the same. It's all a white-washed paradise in Norway. I guarantee you, if you unloaded 10 million Latinos who couldn't speak their language on them they wouldn't be so excited to "share the wealth."

Get real.
"but this shows that socialism in different forms is not a complete failure of an idea."

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The way I see it is that NFL business is run like a Cartel(see OPEC) where political view capitalist, communism, socialism, kingdom or just old fashion dictatorship has no bearing. They all have one purpose and that is to take the consumer to the cleaner with regard to their income.

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You should have known Rohirrim....you put something humorous out there for the know it alls and if they think you've stepped on their ideaology the hair on their posting arms will rise on end and they'll rebutt, while never seeing the humor.
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John Mayer is a socialist, apparently.
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Socialism does work, but you will be taxed to death.
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So the NFL is a socialist paradise...so you could say the NFL owners and players are the "elite" who get access to team revenues and get to squabble over who gets what ridiculous amount of money. The fans or "working class idiots" get to foot the bill and pay anywhere from $60 to $500 for seats for a single game or $2500 to $7500 for season tickets, $8-$15 for a 10 oz beer, $5 to $15 for snackage per person. Lets not forget the cost of going to a game in fuel and parking.

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