If we have to take a defensive linemen in the first and Fairley is gone, how about trying to trade. - The Orange Mane

KevinJames · 01-27-2011, 11:03 PM

Trade back with the Texans get some picks and take Aldon Smith.

this guy is a terror to block, and if we play 3-4 or 4-3 he can fit, I sort of reminds me of D Ware hes just dominates sometimes out there, RS sophmore but theres enough talent out there to warrant a first round pick.

heres just some film from the Colorado game.

broncocalijohn · 01-27-2011, 11:09 PM

First, everyone looked good against Colorado. 2nd, while trading back can still get us some great front 7, why this guy over the others that are targetted top 10 to 15?

SoCalBronco · 01-27-2011, 11:11 PM

Trade back and back and back and back. If we're not picking before 20, that's perfectly fine. Just keep accumulating.

footstepsfrom#27 · 01-27-2011, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SoCalBronco

Trade back and back and back and back. If we're not picking before 20, that's perfectly fine. Just keep accumulating.

Belay that order...and set a course for Patrick Peterson.

footstepsfrom#27 · 01-27-2011, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by broncocalijohn

First, everyone looked good against Colorado. 2nd, while trading back can still get us some great front 7, why this guy over the others that are targetted top 10 to 15?

Not really. He's beating Nate Solder, expected to be the top OT in the draft and he's a freshman in this video.

Nice.

I'd rather trade up not down, and I"d rather go for Stephen Paea if he's there somewhere after 15.

SoCalBronco · 01-27-2011, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by footstepsfrom#27

Belay that order...and set a course for Patrick Peterson.

lol

Jetmeck · 01-27-2011, 11:42 PM

Look I'd prefer D line help as ours is a joke and has been for years. That said Peterson would be great too cause he looks outstanding and Champ is starting to get older and lets face it the other corner never was up to par anyway. As long we concentrate on defense, defense and more defense I am thrilled.....................

Schism · 01-27-2011, 11:45 PM

If Fairley is gone at #2 (or if the FO don't think he's worth the selection, for that matter) then I'd be all for trading down a few spots and adding another nice pick or two while still grabbing one of the premier prospects in the draft.

I don't like the idea of just trading down again and again for the sake of accumulating dozens of mid-round picks unless there's absolutely nobody we like in the top 10 which, looking at this draft class, seems a more or less impossible scenario.

If you have a chance at what you think can be an elite player, you don't trade out of that spot.

cabronco · 01-27-2011, 11:46 PM

I'm for trading back, back, as we nee alot of help on the defensive side of the ball. Also I noticed every team in the playoffs had a good go to TE. I think we must acquire one, either by draft or free agency. The end.

cutthemdown · 01-27-2011, 11:48 PM

If Broncos could trade back, still get Dareus, and pick up a late 2nd rounder or early 3rd in the process I would be all over it. Then we could afford to draft Kyle Rudolph with one of the 2nd rounders and get a big front 7 guy. Then maybe we could also get the UCLA safety. Well now I am being silly but its nice to dream about fixing DT, FS, TE all on day one of the draft.

Ratboy · 01-27-2011, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by SoCalBronco

Trade back and back and back and back. If we're not picking before 20, that's perfectly fine. Just keep accumulating.

Accumulating trash?

I know how you love your draft picks, but it has done NOTHING for us.

cutthemdown · 01-28-2011, 12:01 AM

Well the only reason I would say drop down is if we could stay in top 5. Don't go lower then the cards pick. The draft trade chart a little out of date but it still is a good jumping off point. The difference between the 2 hole and the 5 hole is 900 points which equals a late first round pick.

If we could drop, still get Dareus, and get another first round pick i would do it. There are some sure fire starters like Stefan Wiesnewski and Rudolph that will go late first early 2nd. If we could somehow get Dareus, Wise, the rudolph top of 2nd, oh man that would be so epically huge I can't imagine it happening. Both Rudolph and Wise will be very very good nfl starters and would fill a need for us.

cutthemdown · 01-28-2011, 12:02 AM

The big WR Green and Peterson could both be wildcards. Some team could want one of them enough to deal with us. Too bad Luck didnt come out that really screwed us.

Drek · 01-28-2011, 04:13 AM

Rather have Dareus than Fairley myself.

bowtown · 01-28-2011, 04:14 AM

Yeah trade back from #2. Piece of cake. Wonder why no one has ever tought of it before. Has anyone let Kubiak know about this plan? I'm sure he'll be thilled.

Ray Finkle · 01-28-2011, 04:19 AM

in order to trade back, someone has to want to trade up....If Fairley is gone, take Bowers or Dareus.

Trading back to accumulate picks only works if you can get value. Other wise it is a waste.

tsiguy96 · 01-28-2011, 05:23 AM

dont see anyone wanting to trade up. there will be a rookie cap in place this year so its more likely than in years past, but still.

Kaylore · 01-28-2011, 05:47 AM

I'm waiting for the combine to flesh things out, but I wouldn't mind trading back for more picks.

oubronco · 01-28-2011, 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Drek

Rather have Dareus than Fairley myself.

I'm with you on this take Dareus then grab Paea or Taylor and if we get lucky we could still get a good mlb

primetime714 · 01-28-2011, 06:07 AM

I like the idea of trading back to #5 with Arizona. I think they may jump at the chance to grab a QB (Gabbert). Assuming that is the case at #5 we'd be guaranteed at least one of Peterson, Bowers, or Dareus would still be there.

Although if Bowers is the real deal I'd be totally fine with taking him at #2. I could live with Peterson at 2 also since I think he's the safest bet in this entire draft. I like Dareus, but I don't know that he has the upside to be the 2nd pick in the draft. I think he'll be a real solid player in this league, but at #2 I'd want a player that can be a game changer.

BowlenBall · 01-28-2011, 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by SoCalBronco

Trade back and back and back and back. If we're not picking before 20, that's perfectly fine. Just keep accumulating.

Completely agree -- if we can trade back to around #20, pick up two more #2 picks, AND get either Cory Luiget or Stephen Paea at the later slot.... makes too much sense NOT to do it, and I'll be very disappointed in the FO if they don't.

This draft is way too deep at our primary area of need (defensive line) to stay pat.

bowtown · 01-28-2011, 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by ExpatFan

Completely agree -- if we can trade back to around #20, pick up two more #2 picks, AND get either Cory Luiget or Stephen Paea at the later slot.... makes too much sense NOT to do it, and I'll be very disappointed in the FO if they don't.

This draft is way too deep at our primary area of need (defensive line) to stay pat.

You do realize that trading back isn't soley up to the FO, right? Wit hthe players on the board, it is going to be vvery very difficult for us to trade out of that spot.

Hercules Rockefeller · 01-28-2011, 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Ratboy

Accumulating trash?

I know how you love your draft picks, but it has done NOTHING for us.

Because during the next two months, he and all the other over the top draftniks will each identify approximately 84 players that each think fit the Broncos. Then we'll have to listen to an "I told you so" if any of them do anything during their rookie seasons.

cmhargrove · 01-28-2011, 06:36 AM

If the Front Office does their job, Orton could yield us another second round pick. Three second round picks would be a lot of ammo, and could either jump us back into the first round, or help rebuild the defense with youth.

WIth all the unsettled QB situations, I just don't see how Orton doesn't get unloaded for decent compensation.

tsiguy96 · 01-28-2011, 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by bowtown

You do realize that trading back isn't soley up to the FO, right? Wit hthe players on the board, it is going to be vvery very difficult for us to trade out of that spot.

no question. there isnt a guy that is irreplaceable, that can only be had from our spot taht makes this spot attractive. the #5-8 spots have prime areas to move back because of guys like dareus, gabbert, prince etc, but not #1-4.

01-27-2011, 11:11 PM	#3
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01-27-2011, 11:03 PM	#1
KevinJames Not the actor/comedian HA 2012. IT BEGINS. Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 1,760	If we have to take a defensive linemen in the first and Fairley is gone, how about trying to trade. Trade back with the Texans get some picks and take Aldon Smith. this guy is a terror to block, and if we play 3-4 or 4-3 he can fit, I sort of reminds me of D Ware hes just dominates sometimes out there, RS sophmore but theres enough talent out there to warrant a first round pick. heres just some film from the Colorado game.

01-27-2011, 11:09 PM	#2
broncocalijohn Famer of Rings My Dog Richard Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Lake Forest, Orange County, Calif. Posts: 18,458 Adopt-a-Bronco: Simon Fletcher	First, everyone looked good against Colorado. 2nd, while trading back can still get us some great front 7, why this guy over the others that are targetted top 10 to 15?

01-27-2011, 11:42 PM	#7
Jetmeck Not a Chief's board Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 5,376	Look I'd prefer D line help as ours is a joke and has been for years. That said Peterson would be great too cause he looks outstanding and Champ is starting to get older and lets face it the other corner never was up to par anyway. As long we concentrate on defense, defense and more defense I am thrilled.....................

01-27-2011, 11:45 PM	#8
Schism Ring of Famer New to the Forum Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 2,920 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	If Fairley is gone at #2 (or if the FO don't think he's worth the selection, for that matter) then I'd be all for trading down a few spots and adding another nice pick or two while still grabbing one of the premier prospects in the draft. I don't like the idea of just trading down again and again for the sake of accumulating dozens of mid-round picks unless there's absolutely nobody we like in the top 10 which, looking at this draft class, seems a more or less impossible scenario. If you have a chance at what you think can be an elite player, you don't trade out of that spot.

01-27-2011, 11:46 PM	#9
cabronco Fish & Chips PFM Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: So.Cal. Posts: 5,469 Adopt-a-Bronco: wth happened	I'm for trading back, back, as we nee alot of help on the defensive side of the ball. Also I noticed every team in the playoffs had a good go to TE. I think we must acquire one, either by draft or free agency. The end.

01-27-2011, 11:48 PM	#10
cutthemdown A verbis ad verbera Zimm to HOF Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Long Beach Posts: 32,418	If Broncos could trade back, still get Dareus, and pick up a late 2nd rounder or early 3rd in the process I would be all over it. Then we could afford to draft Kyle Rudolph with one of the 2nd rounders and get a big front 7 guy. Then maybe we could also get the UCLA safety. Well now I am being silly but its nice to dream about fixing DT, FS, TE all on day one of the draft.

01-28-2011, 12:01 AM	#12
cutthemdown A verbis ad verbera Zimm to HOF Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Long Beach Posts: 32,418	Well the only reason I would say drop down is if we could stay in top 5. Don't go lower then the cards pick. The draft trade chart a little out of date but it still is a good jumping off point. The difference between the 2 hole and the 5 hole is 900 points which equals a late first round pick. If we could drop, still get Dareus, and get another first round pick i would do it. There are some sure fire starters like Stefan Wiesnewski and Rudolph that will go late first early 2nd. If we could somehow get Dareus, Wise, the rudolph top of 2nd, oh man that would be so epically huge I can't imagine it happening. Both Rudolph and Wise will be very very good nfl starters and would fill a need for us.

01-28-2011, 12:02 AM	#13
cutthemdown A verbis ad verbera Zimm to HOF Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Long Beach Posts: 32,418	The big WR Green and Peterson could both be wildcards. Some team could want one of them enough to deal with us. Too bad Luck didnt come out that really screwed us.

01-28-2011, 04:13 AM	#14
Drek Ring of Famer Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 12,315	Rather have Dareus than Fairley myself.

01-28-2011, 04:14 AM	#15
bowtown Ring of Famer Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 8,269 Adopt-a-Bronco: Aaron Brewer	Yeah trade back from #2. Piece of cake. Wonder why no one has ever tought of it before. Has anyone let Kubiak know about this plan? I'm sure he'll be thilled.

01-28-2011, 04:19 AM	#16
Ray Finkle DOOONNNTTTTT CAAARRREEE! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Alexandria, VA Posts: 7,401	in order to trade back, someone has to want to trade up....If Fairley is gone, take Bowers or Dareus. Trading back to accumulate picks only works if you can get value. Other wise it is a waste.

01-28-2011, 05:23 AM	#17
tsiguy96 Ring of Famer New to the Forum Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 12,559 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	dont see anyone wanting to trade up. there will be a rookie cap in place this year so its more likely than in years past, but still.

01-28-2011, 05:47 AM	#18
Kaylore 6-37, Raider fans. Yummy birds and snow! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Ceti Alpha V Posts: 41,009 Adopt-a-Bronco: Wesley Duke	I'm waiting for the combine to flesh things out, but I wouldn't mind trading back for more picks.

01-28-2011, 06:07 AM	#20
primetime714 Rookie New to the Forum Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 97 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	I like the idea of trading back to #5 with Arizona. I think they may jump at the chance to grab a QB (Gabbert). Assuming that is the case at #5 we'd be guaranteed at least one of Peterson, Bowers, or Dareus would still be there. Although if Bowers is the real deal I'd be totally fine with taking him at #2. I could live with Peterson at 2 also since I think he's the safest bet in this entire draft. I like Dareus, but I don't know that he has the upside to be the 2nd pick in the draft. I think he'll be a real solid player in this league, but at #2 I'd want a player that can be a game changer.

01-28-2011, 06:36 AM	#24
cmhargrove Is this thing on??? Travis Henry's love child... Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 6,396 Adopt-a-Bronco: Peyton Hillis	If the Front Office does their job, Orton could yield us another second round pick. Three second round picks would be a lot of ammo, and could either jump us back into the first round, or help rebuild the defense with youth. WIth all the unsettled QB situations, I just don't see how Orton doesn't get unloaded for decent compensation.