Cutler demanded trade the day McD was hired - The Orange Mane

Boobs McGee · 01-23-2011, 05:54 PM

http://www.denverpost.com/klis/ci_17170363

"In defense of Josh McDaniels, he never had a chance with Jay Cutler.

On Jan. 12, 2009, the day that McDaniels was officially announced as the Broncos' head coach, Cutler called the front office and demanded a trade, according to three NFL sources."

Discuss.

BroncoDoug · 01-23-2011, 05:57 PM

old news is old

TheElusiveKyleOrton · 01-23-2011, 05:58 PM

In other news, you're all sixes to Jay Cutler, the quitter. Enjoy defending him, Cutler nuthuggers.

listopencil · 01-23-2011, 05:58 PM

I heard that Cutler called his agent from the womb and demanded a different vagina for the delivery.

Ratboy · 01-23-2011, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by TheElusiveKyleOrton

In other news, you're all sixes to Jay Cutler, the quitter. Enjoy defending him, Cutler nuthuggers.

we're*, unless you are not a Broncos fan.

BroncoDoug · 01-23-2011, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by listopencil

I heard that Cutler called his agent from the womb and demanded a different vagina for the delivery.

Did his dad return his umbilical cord to the original vagina?

listopencil · 01-23-2011, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by BroncoDoug

Did his dad return his umbilical cord to the original vagina?

He walked it in to the hospital after Jay left.

Boobs McGee · 01-23-2011, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by listopencil

He walked it in to the hospital after Jay left.

That's because the mother wasn't returning phone calls

TheElusiveKyleOrton · 01-23-2011, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Ratboy

we're*, unless you are not a Broncos fan.

I just found it odd that people defended him after he said something like that. But you're right. We're all sixes in his eyes.

What a great guy.

Ratboy · 01-23-2011, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by TheElusiveKyleOrton

I just found it odd that people defended him after he said something like that. But you're right. We're all sixes in his eyes.

What a great guy.

Jake Plummer gave fans the finger and people still defend him.

Boobs McGee · 01-23-2011, 06:11 PM

IMO, this hits the nail on the head. From the article :

"What Cutler didn't realize is that his close relationship with Bates was one reason Bowlen's search committee led to McDaniels. Bates coaches aggressively and his personality apparently rubs his superiors the wrong way. After he left Denver and coached with Pete Carroll at USC and with the Seattle Seahawks, Bates was just fired again. McDaniels, meanwhile, had every reason to doubt whether he could win with a quarterback who didn't want to play for the head coach. Cutler's defiance gave McDaniels the right to at least explore a deal for Matt Cassel when former boss Bill Belichick set him up with a trade offer.
Yet, even after the proposed Cassel deal to Denver was leaked, McDaniels-Cutler should have been salvaged.
In the end, the most dominant root of McJaygate was immaturity. The two sides gathered for a clear-the-air summit and McDaniels blew it with bravado. He was too young — too Belichickian, perhaps — to soothe the feelings of a petulant quarterback who was undermining his authority.
In a meeting that was supposed to bring peace, Cutler was too self-centered to accept admonishment. He felt betrayal. Which player doesn't, eventually? Cutler reissued his trade demand.
This became a coach who went overboard with the concept of team before self and a player who put self above the team.
Cutler bailed on the Broncos. He appears wiser for it today, no doubt. But he still bailed.

Read more: Klis: Jay Cutler's departure led to Josh McDaniels' - The Denver Post http://www.denverpost.com/klis/ci_17...#ixzz1Bum047qL
Read The Denver Post's Terms of Use of its content: http://www.denverpost.com/termsofuse "

EDIT: except for the bolded part

HAT · 01-23-2011, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Ratboy

Jake Plummer gave fans the finger and people still defend him.

That's only because JP had a single chin.

txtebow · 01-23-2011, 06:26 PM

IF the Bears had started Kyle Orton today they would have only lost by a FG!

mkporter · 01-23-2011, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Ratboy

Jake Plummer gave fans the finger and people still defend him.

As I recall, Plummer gave one fan the finger. As you may have noticed hanging around here, there are lots of individual fans that deserve it.

TheElusiveKyleOrton · 01-23-2011, 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ratboy

Jake Plummer gave fans the finger and people still defend him.

Jake plummer won a lot more games than cutler did.

Uncle Bill · 01-23-2011, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by BroncoDoug

old news is old

This is actually not old news at all. Until this article came out, it was widely assumed that Cutler didn't demand a trade until McD pursued Cassel. This article puts the entire situation in a different light. In the end, I think McD royally screwed up his handling of Cutler, among many other things, but this revelation absolutely justifies McD's interest in Cassel, which most of us thought was absurd at the time...

HAT · 01-23-2011, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by mkporter

As I recall, Plummer gave one fan the finger. As you may have noticed hanging around here, there are lots of individual fans that deserve it.

to jake for spotting jhiz in the crowd that day.

BroncoDoug · 01-23-2011, 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Uncle Bill

This is actually not old news at all. Until this article came out, it was widely assumed that Cutler didn't demand a trade until McD pursued Cassel. This article puts the entire situation in a different light. In the end, I think McD royally screwed up his handling of Cutler, among many other things, but this revelation absolutely justifies McD's interest in Cassel, which most of us thought was absurd at the time...

I was refering to the fact that it was already brought up in previous threads. But I agree it does put the situation in a different light, but I also seem to remember hearing something about this during the whole McJayGate drama.

_Oro_ · 01-23-2011, 06:51 PM

This article is great because now Josh Mcdaniels doesn't get credit for the Cutler trade. Score one for team Cutler!

TonyR · 01-23-2011, 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Uncle Bill

This is actually not old news at all. Until this article came out, it was widely assumed that Cutler didn't demand a trade until McD pursued Cassel. This article puts the entire situation in a different light. In the end, I think McD royally screwed up his handling of Cutler, among many other things, but this revelation absolutely justifies McD's interest in Cassel, which most of us thought was absurd at the time...

Exactly right. Well said.

HILife · 01-23-2011, 06:54 PM

Go Packers!

Dedhed · 01-23-2011, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by txtebow

IF the Bears had started Kyle Orton today they would have only lost by a FG!

If they had started Hanie they might have won.

Rigs11 · 01-23-2011, 07:03 PM

Wow, so mcd didn't run cutler out of town like all the nuthuggers are saying around here?

HAT · 01-23-2011, 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Oro_

This article is great because now Josh Mcdaniels doesn't get credit for the Cutler trade. Score one for team Cutler!

McD never should've gotten credit (or blame) for the trade happening in the first place since PB ultimately made the decision.

McD does deserve at least partial credit for what Denver rec'd, however. Just as he deserves partial blame for what those picks turned into. The good news is that Orton may still have some value so hopefully it's the gift that keeps on giving. I doubt Campbell would be worth anything this offseason.

Just be glad that it all happened to begin with.

OCBronco · 01-23-2011, 07:29 PM

The funny thing is, after today's game, Cutler comes off looking even worse in that article. Especially since it's predicated on the idea that Cutler came off better in the end.

So long, Frowncannon.

01-23-2011, 05:54 PM	#1
Boobs McGee I promise to stay alive till the day that I die Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Glendale Posts: 5,019 Adopt-a-Bronco: CassiusVAAAUGHN	Cutler demanded trade the day McD was hired http://www.denverpost.com/klis/ci_17170363 "In defense of Josh McDaniels, he never had a chance with Jay Cutler. On Jan. 12, 2009, the day that McDaniels was officially announced as the Broncos' head coach, Cutler called the front office and demanded a trade, according to three NFL sources." Discuss.

01-23-2011, 05:58 PM	#3
TheElusiveKyleOrton www.dailydickpunch.com @RMoneyBadger Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Steamboat Springs Posts: 9,777 Adopt-a-Bronco: "Debo" Franklin	In other news, you're all sixes to Jay Cutler, the quitter. Enjoy defending him, Cutler nuthuggers. __________________ Nobody puts Jay-bee in the corner.

01-23-2011, 06:11 PM	#11
Boobs McGee I promise to stay alive till the day that I die Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Glendale Posts: 5,019 Adopt-a-Bronco: CassiusVAAAUGHN	IMO, this hits the nail on the head. From the article : "What Cutler didn't realize is that his close relationship with Bates was one reason Bowlen's search committee led to McDaniels. Bates coaches aggressively and his personality apparently rubs his superiors the wrong way. After he left Denver and coached with Pete Carroll at USC and with the Seattle Seahawks, Bates was just fired again. McDaniels, meanwhile, had every reason to doubt whether he could win with a quarterback who didn't want to play for the head coach. Cutler's defiance gave McDaniels the right to at least explore a deal for Matt Cassel when former boss Bill Belichick set him up with a trade offer. Yet, even after the proposed Cassel deal to Denver was leaked, McDaniels-Cutler should have been salvaged. In the end, the most dominant root of McJaygate was immaturity. The two sides gathered for a clear-the-air summit and McDaniels blew it with bravado. He was too young — too Belichickian, perhaps — to soothe the feelings of a petulant quarterback who was undermining his authority. In a meeting that was supposed to bring peace, Cutler was too self-centered to accept admonishment. He felt betrayal. Which player doesn't, eventually? Cutler reissued his trade demand. This became a coach who went overboard with the concept of team before self and a player who put self above the team. Cutler bailed on the Broncos. He appears wiser for it today, no doubt. But he still bailed. Read more: Klis: Jay Cutler's departure led to Josh McDaniels' - The Denver Post http://www.denverpost.com/klis/ci_17...#ixzz1Bum047qL Read The Denver Post's Terms of Use of its content: http://www.denverpost.com/termsofuse " EDIT: except for the bolded part Last edited by Boobs McGee; 01-23-2011 at 06:13 PM..

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OCBronco Seasoned Veteran Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 256 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	The funny thing is, after today's game, Cutler comes off looking even worse in that article. Especially since it's predicated on the idea that Cutler came off better in the end. So long, Frowncannon.