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Old 01-23-2011, 08:12 AM   #1
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Default And the Broncs pick at #2 overall is.....

Do we get a shot at Fairley, or is Bowers our guy?

If we really want Fairley, should we trade up to take him? Or does Carolina go another way?

And this is a two guy discussion for the Broncs, right? Isn't it foolish to think of anyone else here?
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Old 01-23-2011, 08:50 AM   #2
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Dareus would be in the mix as well as Peterson but if it were me making the call i'd go with Dareus
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Old 01-23-2011, 09:08 AM   #3
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It's not worth trading up to the top pick. Do not quote the retarded pick chart, it'll cost more than a 2nd.

Bowers is not the pick if they're still a 3-4 team.

A 3-4 end is not worth the 2nd pick.

I'd take Peterson.
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Old 01-23-2011, 02:28 PM   #4
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If we go back to the 4-3 than I think it will be Bowers.
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Old 01-23-2011, 03:19 PM   #5
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I like having multiple studs to choose from.
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Old 01-23-2011, 05:23 PM   #6
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Old 01-23-2011, 07:43 PM   #7
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A trade back is a big possibility especially if the Panthers take Fairley. I could definitely see some team trying to trade up for their choice of QB. If let's say Arizona really wants Gabbert and doesn't want to risk Buffalo or Cincy taking him we could easily milk a high 2nd and perhaps another pick out of them. And still get one of Peterson, Bowers, or Dareus at 5.

Personally I'm starting to think that's the smart play here. Putting all our eggs in the basket of one player at 2 may not make the most sense. Fairley and Bowers both come with some big question marks. Peterson seems like a safe bet, but a CB at #2 when we need so much help in the trenches?

When there's no clear choice at your spot you have to see what you can get for the pick. This would be a great draft to pick up some extra picks in.
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Take Fairley or Bowers or trade back. No CB has ever gone #2.
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Old 01-25-2011, 03:00 AM   #9
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I checked out the available tape at Youtube for Dareus and Bowers.

These are both good kids. No characters issues I could see. No head trips. Very coachable kids.

I'm still wary of Fairley. The last thing we need is a head tripper.
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Old 01-25-2011, 04:23 AM   #10
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At this moment in time, my approach would be.

Plan A - Fairley.

Plan B - Trade back 2-4 spots and pick up some additional picks, select Dareus. If someone snags him before our pick, take Peterson.

Plan C - Bowers.

Trading down isn't going to be easy if Fairley is gone, I'd take Bowers and roll with a Dumervil, Ayers, Bowers rotation at DE.

Still, pretty certain I'll feel differently come April. So much will change in the coming months.
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Just take Dareus and be done with it
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I just hope it's not a CB.
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I just hope it's not a CB.
But Champ locks down half the field omg!! And another CB would lock down half the field! Then we would lock down two halves of the field and there would be nowhere to play!
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I think they'll try to trade back, but wont find what they want in return.

They'll pick Fairley if he's there and if he's not, they'll take Bowers.
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The more I look at the first round talent in 2011, the more I'm convinced we've got to trade back.

Would you rather have:

#2: Nick Fairley, DT, Auburn

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#20: Stephen Paea, DT, Cal
#40: Phil (not Marvin) Taylor, DT, Baylor
#60: Christian Ballard, DE, Iowa

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Old 01-28-2011, 07:09 AM   #17
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Old 01-28-2011, 08:46 AM   #18
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But Champ locks down half the field omg!! And another CB would lock down half the field! Then we would lock down two halves of the field and there would be nowhere to play!
I keep hearing over and over again how deep this draft is at D-Line. Why not take Peterson at #2 and use our later picks on the line?
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I keep hearing over and over again how deep this draft is at D-Line. Why not take Peterson at #2 and use our later picks on the line?
Read some posts by Drek or Mediator, they're much more eloquent and knowledgeable on the subject.
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So what's the deal with Bowers anyway? For years during the Shanahan era I dreamed of the team being in position to get the top DE available. I just don't find him a very exciting prospect. Anyone have any insight on him?
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So what's the deal with Bowers anyway? For years during the Shanahan era I dreamed of the team being in position to get the top DE available. I just don't find him a very exciting prospect. Anyone have any insight on him?
I only know what I have seen. I'm not an ACC guy or a Clemson fan, and I have only rarely seen him play.

He looks like the top player in the draft to me. He's massive, explosive, quick, powerful, uses his hands well, has long arms, has a high motor, plays against the pass and the run...he's the total package. He also seems pretty intelligent and is a fun guy.

I have read, however, that he takes plays off. Thats a bit of a red flag.
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I only know what I have seen. I'm not an ACC guy or a Clemson fan, and I have only rarely seen him play.

He looks like the top player in the draft to me. He's massive, explosive, quick, powerful, uses his hands well, has long arms, has a high motor, plays against the pass and the run...he's the total package. He also seems pretty intelligent and is a fun guy.

I have read, however, that he takes plays off. Thats a bit of a red flag.
Drat. I've heard stuff like that about him, but I also heard he really turned over a new leaf this year. I wonder if his effort got more consistent.

Thanks for the rundown though!
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Take the biggest difference maker you can find for the middle...be it Fairley, Bowers, Dareus etc...just take a fat boy of your choosing and don't look back. Would love to see Heyward or Taylor in the second as well.
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Take the biggest difference maker you can find for the middle...be it Fairley, Bowers, Dareus etc...just take a fat boy of your choosing and don't look back. Would love to see Heyward or Taylor in the second as well.
I like this philosophy!

Someone notify Elway and get him on board.
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The more I look at the first round talent in 2011, the more I'm convinced we've got to trade back.

Would you rather have:

#2: Nick Fairley, DT, Auburn

or

#20: Stephen Paea, DT, Cal
#40: Marvin Taylor, DT, Baylor
#60: Christian Ballard, DE, Iowa
I'd take Fairley. No question. The other three guys could all be solid NFL contributors, but Fairley has star potential and could be a true difference maker. Also I think alot of those other guys are better suited to a 3-4 defense and I expect we'll be using more 4-3.
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