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Old 01-21-2011, 08:28 AM   #1
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Default Fox: "How many Police Brutality stories will it take for us to realize that the war on drugs is far

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Old 01-21-2011, 09:12 AM   #2
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Old 01-21-2011, 04:47 PM   #3
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The war on drugs is a misnomer.

Sure they bust drug dealers -- but the rate of flow of drugs into the nation does not go down.

It's about market share -- not eradication. The CIA controls policy. DEA cannot act without CIA approval. Problem is, many key drug traffickers are CIA assets -- so get protection.

The only way to solve the drug problem is to eradicate the CIA.
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Old 01-21-2011, 05:04 PM   #4
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I thought Coach Fox had weighed on the drug issue.
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you cant have a war on drugs or poverty or terrorism. you have a war on people.

that said, its time to legalize (and put out of business) all drugs. all sexual services. all tobacco. riding motorcycles without helmets. driving cars without insurance.

most of it is sponsored by either the mob or the insurance industry (they do the same thing).
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Old 01-21-2011, 10:21 PM   #6
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First hand testimony the CIA is deep in the drug business

Terry Reed was a USAF intelligence operative in SE Asia during the 60s.

In the 80s the CIA recruited him as a flight instructor to train Contra pilots for the secret war in Central America.

Reed soon discovered that the CIA was sending arms south and coming back with loads of cocaine. This knowledge nearly cost Reed his life. Don't miss his amazing 1995 book COMPROMISED.

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The Oliver North Diaries

The national security archive at George Washington University has posted many documents available for display and download backing up everything that Terry Reed and others have said about CIA complicity in the drug trade.

Still don't believe it?

Check it out for yourself:

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB113/
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The is one example of my argument supporting the belief that we are morphing into a fascist state. We already manifest about 12 out of 15 of the establish traits of a fascist state. Shouldn't be too hard to knock down the last three.

An interesting side note: The other evening I was watching a show about mobsters, particularly some guy name Jimmy Massino. You know how they arrested him? Two FBI agents went up and knocked on his door. He came out, and they handcuffed him and drove him away. That's how they arrest the head of the Bonanno family on a warrant for multiple murders and racketeering. How do they bust a guy with a kilo of pot in his house? With ****ing automatic weapons, snipers, shock grenades, no knock warrants, door smashing hardware, and tear gas.

Totally out of control, people. The drug war and the war on terrorism are turning America into a police state. By the time you wake up to it, the ship will have sailed.

Remember Waco? The local sheriff later said he could have simply walked up to the front door and taken Koresh into custody. He knew Koresh, and said that it wouldn't have been that big of a deal.

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First hand testimony the CIA is deep in the drug business

Terry Reed was a USAF intelligence operative in SE Asia during the 60s.

In the 80s the CIA recruited him as a flight instructor to train Contra pilots for the secret war in Central America.

Reed soon discovered that the CIA was sending arms south and coming back with loads of cocaine. This knowledge nearly cost Reed his life. Don't miss his amazing 1995 book COMPROMISED.

Let's put it this way: How corrupted was the government by Prohibition? Multiply that by ten times to come up with the sums of money generated by the Drug War.
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Remember Waco? The local sheriff later said he could have simply walked up to the front door and taken Koresh into custody. He knew Koresh, and said that it wouldn't have been that big of a deal.

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In Oklahoma alone, we had over 600 fatal overdoses last year. I first heard this statistic at a mandatory drug diversion lecture as part of my continuing medical education requirement. I found it really hard to believe, because that would be almost if not greater than the number of people killed in car "accidents." Then I did some research and found that it was indeed true.

In almost every case, the overdose deaths are due to diversion and improper use of legal prescription meds. Most commonly opiates (especially fentanyl) in combination with benzodiazipines. I have personally known five people who have recently died in this manner -- 4 were high school classmates, the other worked at my hospital. Every one of them died from fentanyl overdose, and none of them had a legitimate prescription.

I personally don't have the desire to use marijuana, but there isn't a single documented report of a lethal marijuana overdose. Not a single one. Alcohol, opiates, benzos, and tobacco on the other hand kill people every single day. Yet the vastly more dangerous drugs are legal and socially acceptable. The illegality of marijuana is certainly not based in any sort of medical science.
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In Oklahoma alone, we had over 600 fatal overdoses last year. I first heard this statistic at a mandatory drug diversion lecture as part of my continuing medical education requirement. I found it really hard to believe, because that would be almost if not greater than the number of people killed in car "accidents." Then I did some research and found that it was indeed true.

In almost every case, the overdose deaths are due to diversion and improper use of legal prescription meds. Most commonly opiates (especially fentanyl) in combination with benzodiazipines. I have personally known five people who have recently died in this manner -- 4 were high school classmates, the other worked at my hospital. Every one of them died from fentanyl overdose, and none of them had a legitimate prescription.

I personally don't have the desire to use marijuana, but there isn't a single documented report of a lethal marijuana overdose. Not a single one. Alcohol, opiates, benzos, and tobacco on the other hand kill people every single day. Yet the vastly more dangerous drugs are legal and socially acceptable. The illegality of marijuana is certainly not based in any sort of medical science.
We have anti-marijuana laws basically based on this:


Marijuana is a superior alternative to alcohol in terms of health concerns and the level of intoxication that is achieved by standard doseages. Public intoxication is not even a concern with a pot smoker. What nuisance are they? They laugh too much at stupid things? They wax poetic about simple things that they give cosmic meaning to? Granted the stoner should not be behind the wheel, but really someone being stoned in public pretty much means playing hackey sack or frisbee golf in a park.
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In Oklahoma alone, we had over 600 fatal overdoses last year. I first heard this statistic at a mandatory drug diversion lecture as part of my continuing medical education requirement. I found it really hard to believe, because that would be almost if not greater than the number of people killed in car "accidents." Then I did some research and found that it was indeed true.

In almost every case, the overdose deaths are due to diversion and improper use of legal prescription meds. Most commonly opiates (especially fentanyl) in combination with benzodiazipines. I have personally known five people who have recently died in this manner -- 4 were high school classmates, the other worked at my hospital. Every one of them died from fentanyl overdose, and none of them had a legitimate prescription.

I personally don't have the desire to use marijuana, but there isn't a single documented report of a lethal marijuana overdose. Not a single one. Alcohol, opiates, benzos, and tobacco on the other hand kill people every single day. Yet the vastly more dangerous drugs are legal and socially acceptable. The illegality of marijuana is certainly not based in any sort of medical science.
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It was based on 1930s propaganda.
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In Oklahoma alone, we had over 600 fatal overdoses last year. I first heard this statistic at a mandatory drug diversion lecture as part of my continuing medical education requirement. I found it really hard to believe, because that would be almost if not greater than the number of people killed in car "accidents." Then I did some research and found that it was indeed true.

In almost every case, the overdose deaths are due to diversion and improper use of legal prescription meds. Most commonly opiates (especially fentanyl) in combination with benzodiazipines. I have personally known five people who have recently died in this manner -- 4 were high school classmates, the other worked at my hospital. Every one of them died from fentanyl overdose, and none of them had a legitimate prescription.

I personally don't have the desire to use marijuana, but there isn't a single documented report of a lethal marijuana overdose. Not a single one. Alcohol, opiates, benzos, and tobacco on the other hand kill people every single day. Yet the vastly more dangerous drugs are legal and socially acceptable. The illegality of marijuana is certainly not based in any sort of medical science.
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I love Naplitano, the drug war is dumb in a land of free people.... Consenting adults should be able to use as they please, whatever they please...
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