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PRBronco · 01-20-2011, 02:56 PM

Slow news day (week?) around here, saw a couple blurbs at profootballweekly.com that might be worth talking about:

Speculation that DJ might be trade bait:http://www.profootballweekly.com/201...cos-trade-bait

Speculation that we might retain Harris:
http://www.profootballweekly.com/201...type-of-player

Tawlk amongst yaselves.

CBF1 · 01-20-2011, 03:10 PM

Nothing earth shattering

PRBronco · 01-20-2011, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by CBF1

Nothing earth shattering

I knew I should have just added this into the DJ Williams upskirt thread!

CBF1 · 01-20-2011, 03:14 PM

The only person that is going to be butt hurt is SoCal

baja · 01-20-2011, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by CBF1

The only person that is going to be butt hurt is SoCal

For some reason So Cal loves low character people.

Cutler

DJ Williams

Richard Nixon

Boob

broncogary · 01-20-2011, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by baja

For some reason So Cal loves low character people.

Cutler

DJ Williams

Richard Nixon

Boob

He's a lawyer.

Requiem · 01-20-2011, 03:37 PM

One of the reasons I enjoyed the Fox hiring is because it confirmed what they are saying about Harris in this snippet. I originally had OL being pegged as a selection with one of our top 67 picks if Harris were to leave, but if he stays that would be beneficial and erase that need, allowing for our starting line-up from last year (Clady, Beadles, Walton, Kuper, Harris) to stay in-tact moving forward for 2010 and beyond.

The DJ tidbit is also interesting, but our defense is already bad enough. The DUI incidents aren't the telling matter in this. Money could be one thing and it is possible that the team feels that he could be replaced easily with someone on the roster or in the draft. I was speculating as to what position he'd play in a 4-3 under Fox.

Unfortunately DJ has went through coordinator after coordinator plus position switches in four of his what, six years here? I don't think he really had a fair shake at developing into what he could have been, but he is still a solid pro.

If DJ is traded, a linebacker would have to be drafted very early on. Martinez or Jones would probably be the best options. Early second round choices.

baja · 01-20-2011, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Requiem

One of the reasons I enjoyed the Fox hiring is because it confirmed what they are saying about Harris in this snippet. I originally had OL being pegged as a selection with one of our top 67 picks if Harris were to leave, but if he stays that would be beneficial and erase that need, allowing for our starting line-up from last year (Clady, Beadles, Walton, Kuper, Harris) to stay in-tact moving forward for 2010 and beyond.

The DJ tidbit is also interesting, but our defense is already bad enough. The DUI incidents aren't the telling matter in this. Money could be one thing and it is possible that the team feels that he could be replaced easily with someone on the roster or in the draft. I was speculating as to what position he'd play in a 4-3 under Fox.

Unfortunately DJ has went through coordinator after coordinator plus position switches in four of his what, six years here? I don't think he really had a fair shake at developing into what he could have been, but he is still a solid pro.

If DJ is traded, a linebacker would have to be drafted very early on. Martinez or Jones would probably be the best options. Early second round choices.

I think the want someone more cerebral to play in the middle someone like Ray Louis to direct the defense. We have sucked ever sense Al Wilson left.

driver · 01-20-2011, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by baja

I think the want someone more cerebral to play in the middle someone like Ray Louis to direct the defense. We have sucked ever sense Al Wilson left.

Finally somone else noticed too.

peacepipe · 01-20-2011, 04:06 PM

Why when you're moving to a 4-3 trade away a player like DJ who could play either WLB or SLB.

HooptyHoops · 01-20-2011, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by peacepipe

Why when you're moving to a 4-3 trade away a player like DJ who could play either WLB or SLB.

And, do we have any other LB that is worth starting? Plus, the asking price for DJ won't be too high.....

Abqbronco · 01-20-2011, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by peacepipe

Why when you're moving to a 4-3 trade away a player like DJ who could play either WLB or SLB.

Why is it so hard for a LB to switch sides? I have never understood that. Is it a coverage thing? If so, is DJ really all that great at coverage?
I keep hoping the guy pans out but year after year he strikes me as average to a little above average. Not bad, just not great. Moving him now would be the best time to do it.

baja · 01-20-2011, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Abqbronco

Why is it so hard for a LB to switch sides? I have never understood that. Is it a coverage thing? If so, is DJ really all that great at coverage?
I keep hoping the guy pans out but year after year he strikes me as average to a little above average. Not bad, just not great.
Moving him now would be the
best time to do it.

This

oubronco · 01-20-2011, 04:16 PM

DJ is not our biggest liability on D by far

Abqbronco · 01-20-2011, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by oubronco

DJ is not our biggest liability on D by far

Agreed, but he also isn't a player to build around at this point in his career. This team can't get much worse so why not try to get some additional pick to infuse this team with youth and (hopefully) talent?

baja · 01-20-2011, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by oubronco

DJ is not our biggest liability on D by far

In a way he is. It's like having a stupid QB on offense.

baja · 01-20-2011, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by oubronco

DJ is not our biggest liability on D by far

In a way he is. It's like having an athletic stupid QB on offense.

Tombstone RJ · 01-20-2011, 05:07 PM

I feel bad for DJ, talk about a guy who got screwed by the Broncos defensive system(s). He was always being moved around yet he kept a good attitude. Perhaps it's best if he just moves on to another team and starts fresh. This defense is being totally rebuilt anyway so why not trade him, get what you can and let some of the younger guys like Mays and Woodyard have a shot at leading this defense.

Hamrob · 01-20-2011, 05:19 PM

I think it's stupid. DJ is a good football player. We are never going to have 11 All-Pro players on defense. We'll be lucky if we get 2-3 other studs to go along with Doom. The rest of the D has to be filled out by good football players. We could certainly do alot worse than DJ Williams.

Now, here's the real issue:

What the hell are folks going to give us for an aging non-pro bowl player?

Dedhed · 01-20-2011, 05:31 PM

I would love to see DJ and Orton shipped out for 3rd and 2nd rounders respectively. 3 picks in the 2nd round and 2 in the 3rd would put us in a great position to rebuild the defensive side of the field.

Ayers and Doom are the players to build around, not DJ.

CEH · 01-20-2011, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by baja

I think the want someone more cerebral to play in the middle someone like Ray Louis to direct the defense. We have sucked ever sense Al Wilson left.

No they are just growing tired of DJ's act with his off the field issues
He will be dealt sometime this year

OrangenBlueOhio · 01-20-2011, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Hamrob

I think it's stupid. DJ is a good football player. We are never going to have 11 All-Pro players on defense. We'll be lucky if we get 2-3 other studs to go along with Doom. The rest of the D has to be filled out by good football players. We could certainly do alot worse than DJ Williams.

Now, here's the real issue:

What the hell are folks going to give us for an aging non-pro bowl player?

How old is he?

Abqbronco · 01-20-2011, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangenBlueOhio

How old is he?

He's 28. Seems to be a good time from an age standpoint to trade him. He still has a lot of good years ahead of him from a football standpoint.

cutthemdown · 01-20-2011, 06:06 PM

There are better linebackers to be had in FA IMO. Cut DJ loose in a trade, get what you can, and send his partying ways out of Denver.

cutthemdown · 01-20-2011, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangenBlueOhio

How old is he?

It's mostly about wear and tear though. DJ hit the NFL at a young age. He's got some mileage.

01-20-2011, 02:56 PM	#1
PRBronco FML less Join Date: May 2004 Location: North Vancouver Posts: 4,206 Adopt-a-Bronco: I'm so alone	2 Bits from PFW Slow news day (week?) around here, saw a couple blurbs at profootballweekly.com that might be worth talking about: Speculation that DJ might be trade bait:http://www.profootballweekly.com/201...cos-trade-bait Speculation that we might retain Harris: http://www.profootballweekly.com/201...type-of-player Tawlk amongst yaselves.

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CBF1 Ring of Famer No avatar is the new avatar Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: SoCal Posts: 14,907 Adopt-a-Bronco: Jack Del rio	Nothing earth shattering

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CBF1 Ring of Famer No avatar is the new avatar Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: SoCal Posts: 14,907 Adopt-a-Bronco: Jack Del rio	The only person that is going to be butt hurt is SoCal

01-20-2011, 03:37 PM	#7
Requiem ~~~ ~ ~ ~ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Earth Division Posts: 19,541 Adopt-a-Bronco: Gilgamesh	One of the reasons I enjoyed the Fox hiring is because it confirmed what they are saying about Harris in this snippet. I originally had OL being pegged as a selection with one of our top 67 picks if Harris were to leave, but if he stays that would be beneficial and erase that need, allowing for our starting line-up from last year (Clady, Beadles, Walton, Kuper, Harris) to stay in-tact moving forward for 2010 and beyond. The DJ tidbit is also interesting, but our defense is already bad enough. The DUI incidents aren't the telling matter in this. Money could be one thing and it is possible that the team feels that he could be replaced easily with someone on the roster or in the draft. I was speculating as to what position he'd play in a 4-3 under Fox. Unfortunately DJ has went through coordinator after coordinator plus position switches in four of his what, six years here? I don't think he really had a fair shake at developing into what he could have been, but he is still a solid pro. If DJ is traded, a linebacker would have to be drafted very early on. Martinez or Jones would probably be the best options. Early second round choices.

01-20-2011, 04:06 PM	#10
peacepipe Ring of Famer New to the Forum Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 5,754 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	Why when you're moving to a 4-3 trade away a player like DJ who could play either WLB or SLB.

01-20-2011, 04:16 PM	#14
oubronco John Foneco !! Mile High Magic Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Sooner Country Posts: 20,585	DJ is not our biggest liability on D by far

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Tombstone RJ Ring of Famer Old School Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: In the Tetons! Posts: 19,278 Adopt-a-Bronco: WorrellWilliams	I feel bad for DJ, talk about a guy who got screwed by the Broncos defensive system(s). He was always being moved around yet he kept a good attitude. Perhaps it's best if he just moves on to another team and starts fresh. This defense is being totally rebuilt anyway so why not trade him, get what you can and let some of the younger guys like Mays and Woodyard have a shot at leading this defense.

01-20-2011, 05:19 PM	#19
Hamrob All-American! All-American! Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: DFW Posts: 4,747 Adopt-a-Bronco: Peyton Manning	I think it's stupid. DJ is a good football player. We are never going to have 11 All-Pro players on defense. We'll be lucky if we get 2-3 other studs to go along with Doom. The rest of the D has to be filled out by good football players. We could certainly do alot worse than DJ Williams. Now, here's the real issue: What the hell are folks going to give us for an aging non-pro bowl player?

01-20-2011, 05:31 PM	#20
Dedhed Ring of Famer Fare thee well Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Earth Posts: 9,703 Adopt-a-Bronco: Elvis	I would love to see DJ and Orton shipped out for 3rd and 2nd rounders respectively. 3 picks in the 2nd round and 2 in the 3rd would put us in a great position to rebuild the defensive side of the field. Ayers and Doom are the players to build around, not DJ.

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cutthemdown A verbis ad verbera Zimm to HOF Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Long Beach Posts: 32,447	There are better linebackers to be had in FA IMO. Cut DJ loose in a trade, get what you can, and send his partying ways out of Denver.