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Old 01-17-2011, 06:19 AM   #1
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Lots of internet chatter about this guy, but I've seen almost no mention of him here, which is odd considering he's projected by some in the top ten and has even been seen by some scouts as a potential #1 overall pick. Sat out an entire year in suspension amid questions about his character after he went down for accepting some improper compensation from an agent along with several other UNC players. Overcame a benign brain tumor his senior year in HS after being told he'd never play again. Elite pass rusher with ACC best 19 TFL and 11 sacks last year as a sophmore. Measurables: 6'5", 270, 400 pound BP, 4.65 forty (estimated), elite first step with the quicks and upfield speed to beat tackles off the edge and the strength to bull rush inside. He dominated Boston College OT Anthony Castonzo, considered a 1st round pick. Projected as either a 3-4 OLB or a 4-3 DE in the pros. Some compare him to DeMarcus Ware. All kinds of crazy speed numbers floating on the web rumor him having run a 4.38 forty, which I doubt seriously but even timing in the 4.6 range he's got the speed to be considered a seroius pass rushing threat. He's a good tackler and a jarring hitter, forcing 6 fumbles last year. As with any of these guys he's unpolished and has lots of work to do. Probably a year away from performing up to his potential due to having sat out. On video his agility and playmaking skills are obvious, and he seems to diagnose the play very well.

My feeling is that Quinn will fall outside the top ten due to having been out of football a year and the character issues but he won't drop far with the talent he has. Could possibly be had with a move up from the #36 pick or a move down from #2.

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Old 01-17-2011, 06:42 AM   #2
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We've already got Brady Quinn and Richard Quinn, so... why not?
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Ah, hope spring eternal at this time of the year...

It that time again. Time for jumping out of swimming pools, 300 lb back flips, and eye-popping stopwatch times.
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We've already got Brady Quinn and Richard Quinn, so... why not?
Has someone researched signing Dr. Quinn? I'm sure she can help use out.
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Ah, hope spring eternal at this time of the year...

It that time again. Time for jumping out of swimming pools, 300 lb back flips, and eye-popping stopwatch times.
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Enough with the Quinns ferhevinsake, they all suck. Enough with the Gators too ....

I say pull his name off the board on sheer principal.
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Enough with the Quinns ferhevinsake ... they all suck.

Pull his name off the board on sheer principal.
Don't you mean principle?
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Don't you mean principle?
That too.
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FYI, Robert is Richard's brother.
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we should get him too

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I don't think there's been much talk of him because he's an edge guy in 4-3, and if we choose to go that route we already have Doom and Ayers in that role. We are in more desperate need of upgrades on the interior DL, ILB, and secondary.
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If there is one thing we have firmly established under McD's reign of terror is that Quinn = teh suck
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And his stock just plummeted on the Mane.
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Thats not a good thing!
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I don't think there's been much talk of him because he's an edge guy in 4-3, and if we choose to go that route we already have Doom and Ayers in that role. We are in more desperate need of upgrades on the interior DL, ILB, and secondary.
Here's a question; if we're going with a 4-3, do we want Doom in there? I think he's a pro bowler at OLB in the 3-4 but as a DE in the 4-3, he gets fewer sacks and he struggles with wearing down against the huge OT's. I wonder if Doom wouldn't be worth more as trade bait? Also...isn't he due for a huge payday? Bowlen could avoid that if he traded him for a #1, then we draft a true 4-3 DE with the size to play both the run and the pass. I like Dumervil but he's not as good in the 4-3.
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Here's a question; if we're going with a 4-3, do we want Doom in there? I think he's a pro bowler at OLB in the 3-4 but as a DE in the 4-3, he gets fewer sacks and he struggles with wearing down against the huge OT's. I wonder if Doom wouldn't be worth more as trade bait? Also...isn't he due for a huge payday? Bowlen could avoid that if he traded him for a #1, then we draft a true 4-3 DE with the size to play both the run and the pass. I like Dumervil but he's not as good in the 4-3.
I agree that he has more value in a 3-4 as an OLB, but we cannot trade our best defender for a draft pick. He's still very valuable in a 4-3, 12.5 sacks in 2008, but becomes more of a situational player.

I have hope that given Fox's ability to make Peppers so successful, that he can get a lot out of Doom even in a 4-3.
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I agree that he has more value in a 3-4 as an OLB, but we cannot trade our best defender for a draft pick. He's still very valuable in a 4-3, 12.5 sacks in 2008, but becomes more of a situational player.

I have hope that given Fox's ability to make Peppers so successful, that he can get a lot out of Doom even in a 4-3.
I wish Doom had the instincts to play MLB in a 4-3. I just don't see him as the same guy in a 4-3, especially towards the end of the season. He's our best defender (other than Champ) but in the 4-3 he's really just pretty good not great.

Also...will Bowlen resign him anyway? That's a key question going into this draft.
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Quinn and Marvin Austin are not players I want, at any price right now. Both of them put their own interests above their team in North Carolina and are not guys I want to try and build a defense around. Period. They are play when they want to type of players and have little football character let alone regular character.

The biggest reason Elite talented players fail at the next level is they can not handle the mental demands of the Paycheck and position. These 2 guys scream trouble and until I get an affadavit of their mental, emotional, and social abilities there is no way I use a pick on one of them in a rebuilding defense.
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I wish Doom had the instincts to play MLB in a 4-3. I just don't see him as the same guy in a 4-3, especially towards the end of the season. He's our best defender (other than Champ) but in the 4-3 he's really just pretty good not great.

Also...will Bowlen resign him anyway?
That's a key question going into this draft.
Don't feel too bad, I black out a lot as well.
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Quinn and Marvin Austin are not players I want, at any price right now. Both of them put their own interests above their team in North Carolina and are not guys I want to try and build a defense around. Period. They are play when they want to type of players and have little football character let alone regular character.

The biggest reason Elite talented players fail at the next level is they can not handle the mental demands of the Paycheck and position. These 2 guys scream trouble and until I get an affadavit of their mental, emotional, and social abilities there is no way I use a pick on one of them in a rebuilding defense.
Or maybe they just happened to get caught? Everyone knows there's a significant number of players drafted who got benefits from boosters. I'd also bet that quite a few of these guys have some kind of under the table deal with agents or at least have accepted gifts, cash, etc...I imagine you agree.

I don't know if either of them is a real character risk or not. I'm sure the NFL screening process will look for issues. LeBron James got himself into dutch with this stuff too, but fans forget quickly if a guy produces. Now if either of them has issues with drugs, women, guns, gangs, gambling, burglary, etc...that's another story. The NCAA is so hypocritical with this stuff anyway. They make millions off the backs of these kids, give them scholarships knowing the demands on their time and the poor preparation in high school has left most of them ill prepared to actually benefit from the education they get. Many if not most of these guys come in from economically disadvantaged backgrounds and they're not even allowed a stipend for basics like laundry money. Then we all wonder why we have stories of kids taking money from agents or boosters.
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Ah, hope spring eternal at this time of the year...

It that time again. Time for jumping out of swimming pools, 300 lb back flips, and eye-popping stopwatch times.
and throwing the football from the 50 to the end zone on his KNEES!


HE WAS ON HIS KNEES!!!!! OMFG!! ON HIS KNEES!!
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and throwing the football from the 50 to the end zone on his KNEES!


HE WAS ON HIS KNEES!!!!! OMFG!! ON HIS KNEES!!
Was this Jamarcus Russel Taking a breather after the wonderlic Test?
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