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Old 01-13-2011, 05:18 PM   #1
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Default Welcome John Fox...please leave your .500 record and last place finish in Carolina

Just curious: does anyone have any examples of NFL HC's who were fired (edit: contract not picked up) by one team after a dismal season and getting an HC gig that next year and finding success in the new team?

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IMHO, dude had a .500 record at Carolina over nine years. I have a hard time seeing what people are excited about. Seems like an old dog who will not learn new tricks. How often does a HC finish with the worst record in the NFL, get fired, and get a HC elsewhere and wind up finding success in the new team? Seems like this one is destined for failure folks.

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Old 01-13-2011, 05:21 PM   #2
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Man there's a lot of cool stories around here lately, brah.

Not that anyone cares about facts, but he wasn't fired, his contract expired. But seriously, cool story.
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Old 01-13-2011, 05:22 PM   #3
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He wasn't fired....get your facts straight
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Old 01-13-2011, 05:22 PM   #4
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He'll be fine.

He didn't bring Marty Hurney with him.
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Old 01-13-2011, 05:28 PM   #5
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And he was 14 games above .500 going into this season.
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Well, he finshed the season 2-14 and still managed to be at above .500 for his coaching creers. Just above .500 or at .500. Bottom line is, 2-14 really hurt his overall record.
I think his success has been acceptable, considering he coached an expansion team that he took to 1 SB and a couple play-offs.
Good credentials. He'll be in a much, much better situation here in Denver.

The only thing hurting us right now is we only have ***6 picks in this upcoming draft. Thanks McDaniels!!!

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Old 01-13-2011, 05:30 PM   #7
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The only thing hurting us right now is we only have 3 picks in this upcoming draft. Thanks McDaniels!!!
That doesn't sound right. We have more.
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Old 01-13-2011, 05:31 PM   #8
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Damn..these Broncos fans still prove my theory correct.

Dumb as a dead rat.

Can't ever get facts straight... I mean it's something you learned in school when you were 10... did you think it doesn't matter any more?

You ****ing idiots.
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Old 01-13-2011, 05:31 PM   #9
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78 & 74 = .500?
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The only thing hurting us right now is we only have 3 picks in this upcoming draft. Thanks McDaniels!!!
Please read my previous post.
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Old 01-13-2011, 05:32 PM   #11
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The only thing hurting us right now is we only have 3 picks in this upcoming draft. Thanks McDaniels!!!
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Old 01-13-2011, 05:32 PM   #12
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I'll reserve judgment until I see how he fills out the rest of the staff but I think it's pretty likely that history will still be calling him a .500 coach after his 12-13th year as an NFL HC.

Better than Dennison though, I suppose.
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Old 01-13-2011, 05:33 PM   #13
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The only thing hurting us right now is we only have 3 picks in this upcoming draft. Thanks McDaniels!!!
1st
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= 3 picks?
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another village idiot sighting.
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That doesn't sound right. We have more.
Oops!
I hit the wrong key. We have 6 picks, NOT 3. My bad...
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Just curious: does anyone have any examples of NFL HC's who were fired by one team after a dismal season and getting an HC gig that next year and finding success in the new team?

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IMHO, dude had a .500 record at Carolina over nine years. I have a hard time seeing what people are excited about. Seems like an old dog who will not learn new tricks. How often does a HC finish with the worst record in the NFL, get fired, and get a HC elsewhere and wind up finding success in the new team? Seems like this one is destined for failure folks.

Well, I think most people would discount his final season due to his owner's penny pinching, and a terrible rookie QB, which gives him a pretty decent lifetime record. Belichick was 5-11 before he was canned, he turned out okay. Tom Coughlin was 7-9, 6-10, 6-10 with Jax before he went to the Giants. Reeves went 5-11, 6-10 with the Giants before taking the Falcons to the SB.


So maybe not your exact scenario, but some pretty close parallels.
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Look at the good stuff though:

1 Super Bowl appearance, 2 NFC Title Game appearances and a 12-4 record just two years ago!
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Old 01-13-2011, 05:35 PM   #18
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1st
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= 3 picks?
Give him a break. He was 'half' right and that is a huge leap forward for dragster.
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I hit the wrong key. We have 6 picks, NOT 3. My bad...
We only have 6 picks in a 7 round draft? Oh noes!
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Old 01-13-2011, 05:36 PM   #20
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If any coach stays in one place long enough... he's bound to have some rough seasons.

I don't buy into the notion that you use a coaches down years to negate his achievements.

Sometimes coaches and teams need a change of scenery. I'm not sure why that's such a hard concept for some people. Seems like simple, life-stuff.
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Jon Gruden won a superbowl in his first year with the new team
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Hmm. haven't seen a fire John Fox thread yet. He must have done a good job on his first 1/2 day of work.
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And he was 14 games above .500 going into this season.
After inheriting a team that went 1-15 the year before he got there.
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Look at the good stuff though:

1 Super Bowl appearance, 2 NFC Title Game appearances and a 12-4 record just two years ago!
His Carolina teams posted three 11-win seasons, won two NFC South titles and went 5-3 in the playoffs, appearing in two conference championships and losing to New England in the '04 Super Bowl.
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Old 01-13-2011, 05:38 PM   #25
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Super Bowl appearance? Didn't happen.

Winning records? Didn't happen.

Good running game? Didn't happen.

Solid Defense? Didn't happen.

2-14 ZOMG HE ZO TRRUBIL! FYR HM NOW PATS BROLAND!
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