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Old 01-09-2011, 08:12 PM   #1
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Because he hired 32 year old rookie head coach without going through a thorough hiring process, and then gave him the keys to the kingdom?
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Because he hired 32 year old rookie head coach without going through a thorough hiring process, and then gave him the keys to the kingdom?
They did go through a thourough hiring process, they just didn't have the proper power structure in place for a first tim head coach to succeed
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Because he hired 32 year old rookie head coach without going through a thorough hiring process, and then gave him the keys to the kingdom?
Um really I think it was a group decision and Mr. Bowlen was somewhat involved.
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Facts please.
Have you ever heard of the Midas Touch? Well the opposite of that is the Ellis Touch. If there were really a fountain of youth, Ellis would poison it if he went anywhere near it. The guy's a brown nosing caretaker who suddenly runs the Denver Broncos because he's a brown nosing caretaker.

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Old 01-09-2011, 08:23 PM   #11
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Um really I think it was a group decision and Mr. Bowlen was somewhat involved.
I don't think Bowlen was involved at all, outside a "well what do you think Joe?". Pretty sure Ellis made the decision.
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It was thorough? We interviewed three or four guys as I recall. That was it.
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I don't think Bowlen was involved at all, outside a "well what do you think Joe?". Pretty sure Ellis made the decision.
I don't think this is true at all. Bowlen had a pretty big media presence during that hire. That said, I still think Ellis is the antichrist.
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Have you ever heard of the Midas Touch? Well the opposite of that is the Ellis Touch.
Yeah...I was just going to say, when Midnight Star came out with this music video, they didn't have Joe Ellis in mind.

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It was thorough? We interviewed three or four guys as I recall. That was it.
And they hired McDaniels because he did a power point presentation and the others didnt.
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It was thorough? We interviewed three or four guys as I recall. That was it.
Yes, I believe we interviewed 4 guys. In this day and age that's as many or more than most teams interview before hiring their HC.
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Yeah...I was just going to say, when Midnight Star came out with this music video, they didn't have Joe Ellis in mind.

Two things. 1. Thats kind of embarrassing. Was that from Breakin 2, Electric Boogaloo? 2. How did you get the video to show. Did you paste the embed code?
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Two things. 1. Thats kind of embarrassing. Was that from Breakin 2, Electric Boogaloo? 2. How did you get the video to show. Did you paste the embed code?
1. I don't remember where it was from...altho yes it is a bit embarassing..although not as embarassing as Joe Ellis.

2. Yeah, I pasted the embed code from Youtube.
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Yes, I believe we interviewed 4 guys. In this day and age that's as many or more than most teams interview before hiring their HC.
And most teams are far from thorough. The 49ers come to mind actually. I don't think they interviewed anyone other than Harbaugh. Then again this is the team that hired Mike Singletary who, surprise surprise, turned out to be a bit crazy. This is one reason so many teams get into a vicious cycle of hiring the wrong guy over and over again. All I can say is thank goodness for Elway's patient and thorough approach.
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Ding, ding, ding!

This is why Joe Ellis is a moron...
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He's the scapegoat du jour for the failures of the organization. I'd say the only thing he really did wrong was assume he had the knowhow to hire a head coach and give him the same powers as Shanahan. I'm sure he really wanted him to fail though.
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And most teams are far from thorough. The 49ers come to mind actually. I don't think they interviewed anyone other than Harbaugh. Then again this is the team that hired Mike Singletary who, surprise surprise, turned out to be a bit crazy. This is one reason so many teams get into a vicious cycle of hiring the wrong guy over and over again. All I can say is thank goodness for Elway's patient and thorough approach.
What do you consider thourough? You got a number? 6? 8? 12? So far we have 4 interviews lined up. What if we hire one of those guys after they are done? Will you then suddenly change your tune on Elway's patient approach? If you find a guy that you think is the right hire, you hire him before he goes somewhere else. We had multiple interviews with McDaniels and a couple other candidates. It was a thourough process. It just wasn't a well thought out plan.
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Remember he is completely out of the decision making loop once there is a head coach and a consensus is needed to make any major decision so Ellis has one of three votes to chose the HC and that is his first and last football related decision he will be in on.

Why should he be dismissed form running the business end. Do we know him to be a crook and incompetent in that area?
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Remember he is completely out of the decision making loop once there is a head coach and a consensus is needed to make any major decision so Ellis has one of three votes to chose the HC and that is his first and last football related decision he will be in on.

Why should he be dismissed form running the business end. Do we know him to be a crook and incompetent in that area?
Why does he have a vote regarding the HC? That's what I don't understand. The guy knows NOTHING about football.
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Remember he is completely out of the decision making loop once there is a head coach and a consensus is needed to make any major decision so Ellis has one of three votes to chose the HC and that is his first and last football related decision he will be in on.

Why should he be dismissed form running the business end. Do we know him to be a crook and incompetent in that area?
Well he is a Bush, so there's that.
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