Nate Jackson on Goodell and the CBA - The Orange Mane

Binkythefrog · 01-07-2011, 03:19 PM

http://deadspin.com/5727848/a-former...ls-open-letter

Here's an interesting take on the impending CBA negotiations.

A couple interesting tidbits:

"Five years into his tenure, the players are realizing what they have in Roger Goodell. At first, it was hard to tell. He had a refined message and promised the players that he wouldn't change a thing, unless it was deemed necessary, in the name of progress. Players are always skeptical of the power structure in the NFL — coaches, owners, or, in this case, the commissioner. There is always a prevailing "us against them" feeling. Players know that loyalty and honesty are scarce at their level, but I think for the most part, the belief endured that Goodell would respect the sacrifice of the players and keep the ship steady."

Doesn't look like the players will budge much.

"Meanwhile, he had no problems locating his nuts when began doling out fines for what he perceived as overly vicious hits. But the way it looks in the locker room, the fines are a function of media attention and the marketability of the player getting hit. And if you accidentally graze the head of a quarterback, it's your ass. (And here we thought that's what helmets were for.) This is when Goodell's PR train permanently went off the rails. Players practice at full speed every week. They smack heads and then go watch it on film. They know everyone is getting hit in the head. The laughably inconsistent enforcement of the head-shot rule makes it clear to the players, or at least the vast majority of them: your brains are expendable."

Tough to say if I agree with this or not, some of the concussions we've seen are pretty horrific, even though they are isolated. I for one think the rules on quarterbacks are ridiculous, but not on defenseless receivers.

"Now, the picture of Goodell is clear: He is a guy eager to put his stamp on the league; he doesn't care what he is stamping just so long as it has his name on it. Problem is, he is losing the players, one PR gaffe at a time. The NFL is doing just fine on its own. It doesn't need Roger Goodell to be its pimp. Step out of the spotlight, Roger. It's not your show."

Don't know if all the players think like Jackson, but after reading this I'm more pessimestic that we'll have an on time season in 2011. I really hope that they get it together or its gonna be a long fall.

McDman · 01-07-2011, 03:51 PM

I've heard nothing to show me that there will be a season next year.

Chris · 01-07-2011, 03:56 PM

Goodell is a ginger.

Play2win · 01-07-2011, 04:00 PM

You know who needs to take a serious pay cut-- Congress and the NFL Players.

Hogan11 · 01-07-2011, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by McDman

I've heard nothing to show me that there will be a season next year.

Me neither

sirhcyennek81 · 01-07-2011, 04:07 PM

I am guessing Nate does not want to work for the NFL in the future.

Agamemnon · 01-07-2011, 04:33 PM

I honestly can't stand Roger Goodell, and I'm not surprised the players feel the same way. He's the worst thing to happen to the game of football in a long, long time.

Swedish Extrovert · 01-07-2011, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Play2Win

You know who needs to take a serious pay cut-- Congress and the NFL Players.

Congress? I think $162,000 is par for the course when you consider they have to own two homes, and constantly fly back and fourth away from their families between DC and their home. Most are lawyers and businessmen who are taking pay cuts to be in Congress, anyway.

Swedish Extrovert · 01-07-2011, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Play2Win

You know who needs to take a serious pay cut-- Congress and the NFL Players.

Come to think of it, I don't think NFL players are overpaid either.

Supply and demand economics are all relative. As long as YOU are paying $85 for tickets... watching the games on TV... buying the jerseys.... and as long as marketers are willing to dish out $2.5million for a Super Bowl commercial, I'd say NFL players are merely taking their slice of the pie.

broncolife · 01-07-2011, 06:52 PM

I kept waiting for the article to end abruptly. I thought he might get a finger injury.

sirhcyennek81 · 01-07-2011, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by HombreGuapo

Congress? I think $162,000 is par for the course when you consider they have to own two homes, and constantly fly back and fourth away from their families between DC and their home. Most are lawyers and businessmen who are taking pay cuts to be in Congress, anyway.

Yeah. Those underpaid congressmen...who get completely free healthcare, lifelong pensions at 100% of their salaries, free transportation and a break because they dont have to pay into social security. Not to mention they vote for their own pay raises.

Dudeskey · 01-07-2011, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris

Goodell is a ginger.

No need to mice words, just come out and say it:

he has no soul

Agamemnon · 01-07-2011, 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dudeskey

No need to mice words, just come out and say it:

he has no soul

That explains a lot...

scorpio · 01-07-2011, 11:05 PM

I think Nate Jackson is a good writer, but his tendency to push out hit pieces really turns me off. Not that I necessarily disagree with this particular article.

tsiguy96 · 01-08-2011, 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by scorpio

I think Nate Jackson is a good writer, but his tendency to push out hit pieces really turns me off. Not that I necessarily disagree with this particular article.

no one else will, why shouldnt he? hes speaking the mind of the league as a former insider without worry of retribution or whatever.

missingnumber7 · 01-08-2011, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by McDman

I've heard nothing to show me that there will be a season next year.

I concur with this statement. All thats been put out there is what Goodell says is going to happen...18 games. Thats it. And after receiving goodells email I wanted to fire back and ask how many FANS he asked for their imput. I am willing to bet that the fans imput that was recieved was inside his office. And the imput that was submitted by a select few owners. The league is out of balance right now. The players have very little say. Things like the fines for hits, the overtime rule, and the changing of the seasons length are all things that have come from his office. The things the players want pensions, better post retirement health insurance have been vastly ignored by league managment. Unless they get dealt with, I don't see a season starting on time this coming fall. Both sides are going to have to bend. But right now it looks like the league and owners are asking the players to bend over and take it.

cutthemdown · 01-08-2011, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Play2Win

You know who needs to take a serious pay cut-- Congress and the NFL Players.

I prefer to make it a high paying job like Singapore does. But the trade off is big jail time for corruption and graft. Like what Rangel did should be jail time etc etc. Maybe the fact we don't pay enough is what makes the lobbyist so successful.

cutthemdown · 01-08-2011, 09:56 AM

There will be a short lockout, then a new deal. No one wins with a work stoppage that lasts so I don't see that happening.

cutthemdown · 01-08-2011, 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scorpio

I think Nate Jackson is a good writer, but his tendency to push out hit pieces really turns me off. Not that I necessarily disagree with this particular article.

He's trying to find a niche were he can be controversial and get a lot of hits.

01-07-2011, 03:19 PM	#1
Binkythefrog Seasoned Veteran Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 310	Nate Jackson on Goodell and the CBA http://deadspin.com/5727848/a-former...ls-open-letter Here's an interesting take on the impending CBA negotiations. A couple interesting tidbits: "Five years into his tenure, the players are realizing what they have in Roger Goodell. At first, it was hard to tell. He had a refined message and promised the players that he wouldn't change a thing, unless it was deemed necessary, in the name of progress. Players are always skeptical of the power structure in the NFL — coaches, owners, or, in this case, the commissioner. There is always a prevailing "us against them" feeling. Players know that loyalty and honesty are scarce at their level, but I think for the most part, the belief endured that Goodell would respect the sacrifice of the players and keep the ship steady." Doesn't look like the players will budge much. "Meanwhile, he had no problems locating his nuts when began doling out fines for what he perceived as overly vicious hits. But the way it looks in the locker room, the fines are a function of media attention and the marketability of the player getting hit. And if you accidentally graze the head of a quarterback, it's your ass. (And here we thought that's what helmets were for.) This is when Goodell's PR train permanently went off the rails. Players practice at full speed every week. They smack heads and then go watch it on film. They know everyone is getting hit in the head. The laughably inconsistent enforcement of the head-shot rule makes it clear to the players, or at least the vast majority of them: your brains are expendable." Tough to say if I agree with this or not, some of the concussions we've seen are pretty horrific, even though they are isolated. I for one think the rules on quarterbacks are ridiculous, but not on defenseless receivers. "Now, the picture of Goodell is clear: He is a guy eager to put his stamp on the league; he doesn't care what he is stamping just so long as it has his name on it. Problem is, he is losing the players, one PR gaffe at a time. The NFL is doing just fine on its own. It doesn't need Roger Goodell to be its pimp. Step out of the spotlight, Roger. It's not your show." Don't know if all the players think like Jackson, but after reading this I'm more pessimestic that we'll have an on time season in 2011. I really hope that they get it together or its gonna be a long fall.

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01-07-2011, 03:51 PM	#2
McDman Ring of Famer Huzzah! Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Knoxville, TN Posts: 3,700 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	I've heard nothing to show me that there will be a season next year.

01-07-2011, 03:56 PM	#3
Chris Millenium Scrooge McDuck Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 7,501 Adopt-a-Bronco: OrlandoFranklin	Goodell is a ginger.

01-07-2011, 04:00 PM	#4
Play2win Ring of Famer Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 9,610 Adopt-a-Bronco: The Duke	You know who needs to take a serious pay cut-- Congress and the NFL Players.

01-07-2011, 04:07 PM	#6
sirhcyennek81 Yes...swooping is bad... Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Florence, Colorado Posts: 20,681 Adopt-a-Bronco: All of them.	I am guessing Nate does not want to work for the NFL in the future.

01-07-2011, 04:33 PM	#7
Agamemnon Ring of Famer Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 10,465 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	I honestly can't stand Roger Goodell, and I'm not surprised the players feel the same way. He's the worst thing to happen to the game of football in a long, long time.

01-07-2011, 06:52 PM	#10
broncolife Master masturbator! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Escondido, CA Posts: 3,395	I kept waiting for the article to end abruptly. I thought he might get a finger injury.

01-07-2011, 11:05 PM	#14
scorpio Cubicle Pimp Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,498	I think Nate Jackson is a good writer, but his tendency to push out hit pieces really turns me off. Not that I necessarily disagree with this particular article.

01-08-2011, 09:56 AM	#18
cutthemdown A verbis ad verbera Zimm to HOF Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Long Beach Posts: 32,531	There will be a short lockout, then a new deal. No one wins with a work stoppage that lasts so I don't see that happening.